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EDIT: I used curly braces and descriptive words to clarify which smileys and emojis have been used, those have all for some weird system rendered to the same typical ones which where not the real ones.
Introduction
Hiya guys, long time since posting anything here. This one is a good example of seeds sown a long time can pay off far in the future.
This lay is about from about a week and half ago. Let's call this girls Paula. It was the second time we met. When I said the seed was sown a long time ago I mean a looong time ago. 3 and a half years ago, in fact.. yes, 3,5 years from first meet to date/lay.
Opening
So let's rewind back all those years to a sunny summer day. I am at work, that is, flying to Spain in the capacity of senior cabin crew at an airline (that is, steward with some extra responsibilities). Obviously, the details of the meet are a bit hazy because of how much time has passed but I recall having some flirty moments and good eye-contact with her throughout the flight and at one point she came to the galley where I was at, either to buy something or waiting at the toilet queue. Not sure if it was intentional but it was timed so that I was alone at the galley. I used the only easy chance I had and struck up a semi-flirty conversation with her. A few minutes maximum, grabbed her number after suggesting meeting up for drinks while she'd be back in country and that was that.
Her: petite brunette, pretty face, brown eyes and long brown hair moderate ass and tits, thin waist, all in good proportion well dressed, sensual & quite coquettish, very good composure (posture, movement etc.) Unfortunately, I don't have the first texts anymore so I can't tell you at what level my texting back then was (while incremental, the improvement in my texting over the years has been significant but as you see below I'm prone the occasional gaffes).
No date & persistence
Whether it was my poor texting or other circumstances, getting her out on a date proved to be difficult. If I recall correctly, she got back together with her boyfriend, went travelling or both or both of them in some sequence. I kept pinging her every now and then, maybe once or twice a year.
For context, this was not the country where I'm from or where I'm living nowadays, it's pretty close though and I still have some family there whom I visit every now and then. Back in the days I maintained a place at two cities. The aviation gig ended with covid.
Things warm up again
The last couple of times throughout 2021 I pinged her, she's been more receptive and openish to the idea of meeting up but the logistics hadn't worked out; been texting a bit more in late 2021 but not very often still; I was doing this pretty cool work-holiday thing and had cool stuff to share so that might have worked a bit in my favor as well.
This January, I planned to visit family in town and send her a text. When she replied, I responded with a voice message. I've been told on quite a few occasions that I have good/sexy voice. Here's how it went:
Jan 12th
Me: Hiya missis!
Her: Hello! Hows it going?
Me: It's going GOOD
Me: What about you? Anything exciting happening?
Her: Good! Same here Nothing special happening
Me [voice, some music on the background]: Alriight, alriiight... How's your schedule over the weekend, I'm in town.
Her: Oh you are [blushing emoji, hand covering mouth] I have to check my schedule tomorrow but saturday I'm going to my parents place
Her: Where are you staying in town ?
Me: Referring back to an ongoing joke I'd been making with her (framing as her being from the countryside which she's actually not)
Her: no, they live in town our cottage is at country side
Me: I know but I couldn't resist countryside Paula
Her: Shut up
Some more back and forth
Her: Asks more about my logistics.
Me: I'm coming by car so getting around won't be too difficult
Her: Alright [thumbs up]
Her: By the way, do you have Instagram?
Me [voice]: I know this may be hard to believe buuuut... I don't have Instagram
Me [voice]. Which part of the town are you living yourself?
Her: Okey I live at HER AREA.
Her: so do you wanna meet tomorrow?
Me: Nice nice
Me: Yes [surfer hand emoji - I use this one a lot and the italian index finger and thumb sign as well]
Me: Until what time are bars open? They close early i heard
Her: They close at 5 pm but I'm working until that
Her: So come to my place later to drink wine
Me [voice]: Alriight alriight, sounds good! Send me your location some time today or tomorrow and meet you six seven tomorrow.
Her: Sure and 7 pm and don't drive
Me [voice]: logistics blah blah
Date
Jan 14th
Her: Hi! I have to stay a bit later at work. Is it ok that you come at 8 pm?
Me: [voice]: Saying sure, it's even better for me
More short back and forth about when I'm arriving and how to find her place. She's very enthusiastic about it, I respond accordingly.
I wonder whether she's as good looking as she was when I met her. Her new WhatsApp avatar is a bit ambiguous, hoping she hasn't put on a lot of weight or anything like that. It's been 3 years, after all.. Find the right door, get up a few floors, ring the bell.. and wait. In a situation like this, I find it good form not to face the door directly.. Rather be half-turned away and stare into the space or look at something away from the door. Once the door is opened, I turn to look at her and muster a warmest of the suave smiles I can manage. What I'm aiming here is to reward her enthusiasm, defuse any anxiety or worries she has about inviting a half-stranger guy over whilst not being too aloof. in short, trying to be considerate of her while still maintaining the traits that make me appealing as a potential lover.
The doubts I had about her? Gone out of the window! She's slim, has put an effort into looking good and has a very warm and charming presence. I can see she is very delighted to see me as well...
This looks like very much a done deal, I can just relax and enjoy the evening. Her place is small but well decorated with a feminine and stylish touch...
I brought some but it appears to have been not necessary as she has stored up with wine as well. We hang around the massive living room table, sip wine, listen to music and chat.
I am not escalating physically. I know I can do it any time within the next hour or two. And that's how it pretty much goes. I deep dive her a bit, I talk quite a bit about myself, being quite aware of it and reprimanding her for making me talk about myself: "Why am I talking about myself again, Paula!!??" and when she replies with something along the lines of "I want to know more about you, I'm interested" then respond with a light-hearted "Never trust flatteres!" and laugh at it.
I tell a few stories from my life, learned about her but the connection isn't super deep or instant. I could do better at deep diving her even though I sense we have in some ways very different interests and characters. it's not a problem for the lay but I'm thinking this chick is a keeper (at least as a regular). I get away with some not so good deep diving and some moments in the conversation in where I drop the ball and gets a bit stale but she always helps me out. It's a recurring problem for me that my conversations are too lopsided towards witty banter vis-a-vis creating a feeling of being connected.
One interesting fact about her: she is sharing that apartment with his ex-boyfriend. S A small apartment. She told me she was sleeping on the sofa, a lot of the furniture was bought by her. So, essentially, I ended up sleeping with her on her exes bed..
When I decided that now is to go for the lay, it was a vey short time, even slightly disappointingly slow, from first kisses to naked on the bed. Physical escalation is fun and a little resistance is cute and fun too, I enjoy the process. She pretty much dropped her clothes and spread her legs. Oh well, worse problems to be had. So we fuck.. I have this problem when I'm with a new girl. I'm excited about her so I tend to come quite fast. To control that I need to check out my mind in way. I'm there physically but kind of aloof... my awareness goes down, I'm less passionate and the rhythm of the sex suffers... but that's a price I need to pay not to come too fast. Later when my dick settles down and I can "check-in again" I'm probably a bit too tired to give it a 100%. Anyone else experiences this? Long story short: we have a long session but she doesn't orgasm.
After sex, we get some pizza (she pays for it) and talk a bit more but she's not markedly not glowing and doting on me like she was before. Nevertheless, I'm ok to stay for the night. I need to early in the morning, so no morning sex :/ I leave with mixed feelings.
Follow-up
Next morning and following days:
Me: Good morning {Sun smiley} [Props to Skills]
Her: Good morning {blushing smiley}
Me: Great evening, great company {monkey smiley, italian fingers}
Her: Yep had fun {monkey smiley}
Later in the day: I text something relating back to a previous chat we had about her being from the countryside; not a non-sequitur as we got some food that is from there and a guy we know it turned out to be from that region too [but overall, probably maybe over-texting here with no oomph to show for it]
Next day [My last day in town]
Me: Morning {Sun}
Her: Morning {blushy}
Me: On a scale from 0 to 10... how good is your Sunday so far??
Her: 3 {teary eyed laughing smiley} My niece didn't let me sleep me late, and she wants to play all the time.. I wish I could sit on the sofa an sip some wine
Me: Are you still at your parents? [Obvious, shouldn't have asked]
Me: I'm on 4, we had a a bit too much wine yesterday
Her: Yep
Her: Haha
Me: A surefire 2 point increase would be to eat out
Her: That will help surely
Me: Let's go check out restaurant X [we spoke of it earlier, I have an employees discount in that particular chain]
Her: Would love to but can't [No biggie if she can't but she's being very short in her answer so that's not looking so good, could be random circumstances tho]
Me: Alright, no worries
Analysis
Next day got me thinking about what I'm doing wrong-right in terms of converting the girl to a regular.
I read the article on GC by Chase, here's the list of things of what to do and what to avoid? Here's a summary list:
1) Building an emotional connection with her
2) Not drinking alcohol (or limiting alcohol consumption)
3) Spending time together after intimacy
4) Going multiple rounds together
5) Not waiting too long to contact her after
1) so-so, could have been a lot better
2) No alcohol dates = alien world for me, would love hear from guys who do it
3) Had some food after sleeping together
4) Missed this one
5) Next day, ok?
Here's my question to you guys: How would you have handled the situation after getting to her place and realizing it will be smooth sailing. Go for the lay as quickly as possible or drag it out the way I did? I enjoy having some wine, listen some good music, have a good conversation (fun + learning interesting things about the girl). I must admit, I wasn't being particularly strategic about the situation. It would be great to bang her quickly, then enjoy all the good stuff and connect with her and bang again. But if she's only after sex and you don't deliver medicine with the first jab, then you lose the chance to leverage those few hours. Or, even if the sex is good but she ends up getting buyers remorse because because of it happening to quick or too easy.
Introduction
Hiya guys, long time since posting anything here. This one is a good example of seeds sown a long time can pay off far in the future.
This lay is about from about a week and half ago. Let's call this girls Paula. It was the second time we met. When I said the seed was sown a long time ago I mean a looong time ago. 3 and a half years ago, in fact.. yes, 3,5 years from first meet to date/lay.
Opening
So let's rewind back all those years to a sunny summer day. I am at work, that is, flying to Spain in the capacity of senior cabin crew at an airline (that is, steward with some extra responsibilities). Obviously, the details of the meet are a bit hazy because of how much time has passed but I recall having some flirty moments and good eye-contact with her throughout the flight and at one point she came to the galley where I was at, either to buy something or waiting at the toilet queue. Not sure if it was intentional but it was timed so that I was alone at the galley. I used the only easy chance I had and struck up a semi-flirty conversation with her. A few minutes maximum, grabbed her number after suggesting meeting up for drinks while she'd be back in country and that was that.
Her: petite brunette, pretty face, brown eyes and long brown hair moderate ass and tits, thin waist, all in good proportion well dressed, sensual & quite coquettish, very good composure (posture, movement etc.) Unfortunately, I don't have the first texts anymore so I can't tell you at what level my texting back then was (while incremental, the improvement in my texting over the years has been significant but as you see below I'm prone the occasional gaffes).
No date & persistence
Whether it was my poor texting or other circumstances, getting her out on a date proved to be difficult. If I recall correctly, she got back together with her boyfriend, went travelling or both or both of them in some sequence. I kept pinging her every now and then, maybe once or twice a year.
For context, this was not the country where I'm from or where I'm living nowadays, it's pretty close though and I still have some family there whom I visit every now and then. Back in the days I maintained a place at two cities. The aviation gig ended with covid.
Things warm up again
The last couple of times throughout 2021 I pinged her, she's been more receptive and openish to the idea of meeting up but the logistics hadn't worked out; been texting a bit more in late 2021 but not very often still; I was doing this pretty cool work-holiday thing and had cool stuff to share so that might have worked a bit in my favor as well.
This January, I planned to visit family in town and send her a text. When she replied, I responded with a voice message. I've been told on quite a few occasions that I have good/sexy voice. Here's how it went:
Jan 12th
Me: Hiya missis!
Her: Hello! Hows it going?
Me: It's going GOOD
Me: What about you? Anything exciting happening?
Her: Good! Same here
Nothing special happening Me [voice, some music on the background]: Alriight, alriiight... How's your schedule over the weekend, I'm in town.
Her: Oh you are [blushing emoji, hand covering mouth] I have to check my schedule tomorrow but saturday I'm going to my parents place
Her: Where are you staying in town ?
Me: Referring back to an ongoing joke I'd been making with her (framing as her being from the countryside which she's actually not)
Her: no, they live in town our cottage is at country side
Me: I know but I couldn't resist countryside Paula
Her: Shut up
Some more back and forth
Her: Asks more about my logistics.
Me: I'm coming by car so getting around won't be too difficult
Her: Alright [thumbs up]
Her: By the way, do you have Instagram?
Me [voice]: I know this may be hard to believe buuuut... I don't have Instagram
Me [voice]. Which part of the town are you living yourself?
Her: Okey
I live at HER AREA.Her: so do you wanna meet tomorrow?
Me: Nice nice
Me: Yes [surfer hand emoji - I use this one a lot and the italian index finger and thumb sign as well]
Me: Until what time are bars open? They close early i heard
Her: They close at 5 pm but I'm working until that
Her: So come to my place later to drink wine
Me [voice]: Alriight alriight, sounds good! Send me your location some time today or tomorrow and meet you six seven tomorrow.
Her: Sure and 7 pm
and don't drive Me [voice]: logistics blah blah
Date
Jan 14th
Her: Hi! I have to stay a bit later at work. Is it ok that you come at 8 pm?
Me: [voice]: Saying sure, it's even better for me
More short back and forth about when I'm arriving and how to find her place. She's very enthusiastic about it, I respond accordingly.
I wonder whether she's as good looking as she was when I met her. Her new WhatsApp avatar is a bit ambiguous, hoping she hasn't put on a lot of weight or anything like that. It's been 3 years, after all.. Find the right door, get up a few floors, ring the bell.. and wait. In a situation like this, I find it good form not to face the door directly.. Rather be half-turned away and stare into the space or look at something away from the door. Once the door is opened, I turn to look at her and muster a warmest of the suave smiles I can manage. What I'm aiming here is to reward her enthusiasm, defuse any anxiety or worries she has about inviting a half-stranger guy over whilst not being too aloof. in short, trying to be considerate of her while still maintaining the traits that make me appealing as a potential lover.
The doubts I had about her? Gone out of the window! She's slim, has put an effort into looking good and has a very warm and charming presence. I can see she is very delighted to see me as well...
This looks like very much a done deal, I can just relax and enjoy the evening. Her place is small but well decorated with a feminine and stylish touch...
I brought some but it appears to have been not necessary as she has stored up with wine as well. We hang around the massive living room table, sip wine, listen to music and chat.
I am not escalating physically. I know I can do it any time within the next hour or two. And that's how it pretty much goes. I deep dive her a bit, I talk quite a bit about myself, being quite aware of it and reprimanding her for making me talk about myself: "Why am I talking about myself again, Paula!!??" and when she replies with something along the lines of "I want to know more about you, I'm interested" then respond with a light-hearted "Never trust flatteres!" and laugh at it.
I tell a few stories from my life, learned about her but the connection isn't super deep or instant. I could do better at deep diving her even though I sense we have in some ways very different interests and characters. it's not a problem for the lay but I'm thinking this chick is a keeper (at least as a regular). I get away with some not so good deep diving and some moments in the conversation in where I drop the ball and gets a bit stale but she always helps me out. It's a recurring problem for me that my conversations are too lopsided towards witty banter vis-a-vis creating a feeling of being connected.
One interesting fact about her: she is sharing that apartment with his ex-boyfriend. S A small apartment. She told me she was sleeping on the sofa, a lot of the furniture was bought by her. So, essentially, I ended up sleeping with her on her exes bed..
When I decided that now is to go for the lay, it was a vey short time, even slightly disappointingly slow, from first kisses to naked on the bed. Physical escalation is fun and a little resistance is cute and fun too, I enjoy the process. She pretty much dropped her clothes and spread her legs. Oh well, worse problems to be had. So we fuck.. I have this problem when I'm with a new girl. I'm excited about her so I tend to come quite fast. To control that I need to check out my mind in way. I'm there physically but kind of aloof... my awareness goes down, I'm less passionate and the rhythm of the sex suffers... but that's a price I need to pay not to come too fast. Later when my dick settles down and I can "check-in again" I'm probably a bit too tired to give it a 100%. Anyone else experiences this? Long story short: we have a long session but she doesn't orgasm.
After sex, we get some pizza (she pays for it) and talk a bit more but she's not markedly not glowing and doting on me like she was before. Nevertheless, I'm ok to stay for the night. I need to early in the morning, so no morning sex :/ I leave with mixed feelings.
Follow-up
Next morning and following days:
Me: Good morning {Sun smiley} [Props to Skills]
Her: Good morning {blushing smiley}
Me: Great evening, great company {monkey smiley, italian fingers}
Her: Yep had fun {monkey smiley}
Later in the day: I text something relating back to a previous chat we had about her being from the countryside; not a non-sequitur as we got some food that is from there and a guy we know it turned out to be from that region too [but overall, probably maybe over-texting here with no oomph to show for it]
Next day [My last day in town]
Me: Morning {Sun}
Her: Morning {blushy}
Me: On a scale from 0 to 10... how good is your Sunday so far??
Her: 3 {teary eyed laughing smiley} My niece didn't let me sleep me late, and she wants to play all the time.. I wish I could sit on the sofa an sip some wine
Me: Are you still at your parents? [Obvious, shouldn't have asked]
Me: I'm on 4, we had a a bit too much wine yesterday
Her: Yep
Her: Haha
Me: A surefire 2 point increase would be to eat out
Her: That will help surely
Me: Let's go check out restaurant X [we spoke of it earlier, I have an employees discount in that particular chain]
Her: Would love to but can't
[No biggie if she can't but she's being very short in her answer so that's not looking so good, could be random circumstances tho]Me: Alright, no worries
Analysis
Next day got me thinking about what I'm doing wrong-right in terms of converting the girl to a regular.
I read the article on GC by Chase, here's the list of things of what to do and what to avoid? Here's a summary list:
1) Building an emotional connection with her
2) Not drinking alcohol (or limiting alcohol consumption)
3) Spending time together after intimacy
4) Going multiple rounds together
5) Not waiting too long to contact her after
1) so-so, could have been a lot better
2) No alcohol dates = alien world for me, would love hear from guys who do it
3) Had some food after sleeping together
4) Missed this one
5) Next day, ok?
Here's my question to you guys: How would you have handled the situation after getting to her place and realizing it will be smooth sailing. Go for the lay as quickly as possible or drag it out the way I did? I enjoy having some wine, listen some good music, have a good conversation (fun + learning interesting things about the girl). I must admit, I wasn't being particularly strategic about the situation. It would be great to bang her quickly, then enjoy all the good stuff and connect with her and bang again. But if she's only after sex and you don't deliver medicine with the first jab, then you lose the chance to leverage those few hours. Or, even if the sex is good but she ends up getting buyers remorse because because of it happening to quick or too easy.
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