Forum Feedback Placing Limits on Newbies

[topcat]

Just a suggestion I think could go some way to improving quality on the forum.

Limit the newbies (the grey ape guys) to the beginners, field reports and journals. They can comment and view any other public area of the forum but cannot make posts.

From their activity on the allowed areas of the forum you’d be able to determine the serious contributors and then bump up their rank accordingly, allowing them to post in all areas of the forum.

Just a thought as there is a deluge of low quality posting going on atm all from grey ape newbies.

 

[topcat]

Access to off topic should be allowed aswell.

 

[AspiringStoic]

I definitely second this. You have random accounts that pop up to spew some very strongly held views derived from Redpill and Manosphere content creators and based on zero real world experiences. Also people trolling in threads or popping up with blackpill doom and gloom stuff.

 

[Maverick2.0]

I definitely second this. You have random accounts that pop up to spew some very strongly held views derived from Redpill and Manosphere content creators and based on zero real world experiences. Also people trolling in threads or popping up with blackpill doom and gloom stuff.

Is it basically just chronically online guys ranting about doomer/incel stuff? I'm new, but I made sure not to join until I had a couple weeks of success and progress to report on. Been trying to make sure I do the right thing.

 

[Chase]

I've thought about this, but the flip side is that it's hostile to non-newbies who join the Boards and aren't necessarily immediately posting FRs.

e.g., an experienced guy joins SS, has lots to contribute, only posts a few FRs, doesn't get bumped up until 6-8 months later... well, he probably doesn't stick around only posting on Beginners and OT until then, since most of the good discussions are in General.

Maybe we should bring back the "NEWBTARD" shaming Formhandle had on the old Fast Seduction forums, where you could flag posts as "NEWBTARD" and any new members who were abusing the forums would end up getting a bunch of their threads flagged as that, very obviously from the main forum menu. Which served to either shame them into behaving better, or else put a big red target on their backs for the mods to clean up as frequent offenders.

Chase

 

[topcat]

e.g., an experienced guy joins SS, has lots to contribute, only posts a few FRs, doesn't get bumped up until 6-8 months later... well, he probably doesn't stick around only posting on Beginners and OT until then, since most of the good discussions are in General.

I do hear it, but if they truly are experienced it shouldn’t take them that long before it becomes evident. I just think there needs to be some barrier to entry in place, as there is a noticeable degradation in quality about the forum. The level of conversation and even show of initiative by newbies is piss poor atm, and has been degrading for some time. I know i’m not the only experienced guy frustrated by this and it is leading to less engagement from us. I know I can’t even be bothered to troll them anymore

 

[gameboy]

Maybe we shoud encourage new members to start a Journal instead of spamming countless theoretical threads about their insecurities or whatever.

It might not be obvious to newbies that a journal is a better place for such posts.

 

[AspiringStoic]

As we are discussing this, there is a new member starting multiple random, low quality threads in the General section.

I remember reading that on the old forums there was an acronym that stood for "Do A Fucking Archive Search" or something like that. Forcing guys to do some research before posting something.

Now you see guys coming on the forum and asking the most basic questions like what are good indirect openers/how do I approach a girl/ how do I build comfort yada yada.

The most basic stuff that a simple search would bring up a dozen results about on both this forum and the main site and still you have people starting these kind of threads over and over again.

Initially I thought it was a generation thing and it was young guys who are impatient and cannot look up things but then if you look at the posters many are older guys (by age) but who are just new to the forums.

I really ask myself whether a guy who cannot do even the most basic research and wants to be spoon fed answers can ever get good at a thing like cold approach or seduction which takes so much time, effort and patience to get good at.

 

[POB]

@Chase is it possible to limit the number of posts from newbies?
Like 1-2 per month or something like that?
That would force people to really think about what they want from this place before spamming useless stuff.

 

[Atlas IV]

There is definitely an influx of randos recently who haven't bothered to read any GC. One guy who reached out to me doesn't even know what GirlsChase is.

What if there was a post limitation in place for newbies who haven't passed a quiz for basic GirlsChase knowledge? Or maybe they have to submit a field report approved for quality by a senior member before they gain more posting privileges?

This would just apply to creating new threads btw. I see no issue in letting newbies reply to existing threads.

 

[Skills]

Too many rules will fick with forum... Just have an option for posting diahreeah, to notify mods... Sometimes i just tell posters to stop spamming with none sense and make a journal, they usually listen and tag for help... So they don't get 200 different options

 

[POB]

Too many rules will fick with forum... Just have an option for posting diahreeah, to notify mods... Sometimes i just tell posters to stop spamming with none sense and make a journal, they usually listen and tag for help... So they don't get 200 different options

And who has time to babysit those new guys?
Not the mods, that I guarantee you.
It would be great if we had automatic safeguards to forcebly put people into the right mindset when they come here.

 

[Will_V]

I'd love it if there was some way to algorithmically handle these guys. But I tend to agree with @Chase and @Skills, putting a lot of constraints on beginners could start to kill the health of the forum in other ways.

I don't think there's a better option than a forum culture that either pushes these guys to improve or ostracizes them. It's unfortunate that a lot of guys here are super nice and want to help but they end up making life way too comfortable for these time wasters imo. They have to feel like patience is limited and that they'll feel some kind of edge if they keep acting up.

 

[POB]

I'd love it if there was some way to algorithmically handle these guys. But I tend to agree with @Chase and @Skills, putting a lot of constraints on beginners could start to kill the health of the forum in other ways.

I don't think there's a better option than a forum culture that either pushes these guys to improve or ostracizes them. It's unfortunate that a lot of guys here are super nice and want to help but they end up making life way too comfortable for these time wasters imo. They have to feel like patience is limited and that they'll feel some kind of edge if they keep acting up.

Most of those new guys need therapy IMO.
They are using seduction as a cope mechanism for deeper and more serious problems.

 

[topcat]

putting a lot of constraints on beginners could start to kill the health of the forum in other ways.

They're doing alot to kill it already. Many of you have tried to apply edge for over a year now and the flood only increases. I don't see how doing more of the same will improve things.

I really do think there needs to be a barrier to entry. Showing basic initiative and desire for mastery is my suggestion for a bare minimum qualification.

Not everybody will master this nor should.

 

[gameboy]

On a positive note, even though the thread spamming is definitely annoying, there are often some real gems in the responses. Which I consider a great strength of this forum.

 

[POB]

On a positive note, even though the thread spamming is definitely annoying, there are often some real gems in the responses. Which I consider a great strength of this forum.

We need new blood that at least tries to understand those answers.
The way it is now is: shitty askhole > great answers by seniors > more shitty askhole.
It's a never ending fucked up cycle.

 

[Will_V]

We need new blood that at least tries to understand those answers.
The way it is now is: shitty askhole > great answers by seniors > more shitty askhole.
It's a never ending fucked up cycle.

Yeah, it's just not great to see solid advice go completely to waste on its target.

 

[barneystin]

On a positive note, even though the thread spamming is definitely annoying, there are often some real gems in the responses. Which I consider a great strength of this forum.

Yeah, +1 on this to make sure the effort from senior guys doesn’t go unnoticed

i lurk on those threads and gain a lot of insight from reading them