Pretty girl in my hotel room: How would you play this?

[DoWhatWorks]

TLDR: How would you escalate on a stranger you're isolated with, when the vibe so far has only been platonic?

Context:

So a week ago on holiday I got stuck in Greece due to a snowstorm and missed my flight.

I shared a cab to the airport with x3 strangers and 1 of them is a cute 22 year old Finnish student who lives in London.

We've been stuck in traffic for like 4 hours and apart from general chit chat there's not been any flirting or deep diving. She's also very distressed about the whole situation and cries at one point and I give her a comforting hug. We also don't face each other as she's in the seat in front of me but she often turned back to talk.

We share one hell of an experience together as we trek through knee level high snow, hitch hike, and eventually get a hotel together. It was more out of convenience as we were both trying to get to London and it was cheaper for us to split the hotel bill. She had the option to go back into the city and stay with a friend for free but she stayed with me. Partly as we didn't know how public transport would be the next day and maybe because she was into me?

I got mixed messages though as when I would try to smoothly escalate in a contextual relevant way like offer my hand to help her get through the snow she would decline. She was also the feminist type so it could have been that instead. She was also receptive to light kino too but again I couldn't read it.

What happened in the hotel:

• We have complimentary vodka that was in the room
• I deep-dive and she shared her food dis-order problem, why she loves research, ex lover experiences etc.
• I can tell she's a little frosty I.E sitting on the edge of the bed. Also keeps making comments like you could be "psycho" which I addressed earlier with "female intuition is very accurate"
• I play a never have I ever game on the phone just to get the juices flowing
• I seed the kiss by validating her on something she shared and saying if this was any other situation I would have kissed you by now.
• I kiss her about 2 hours in when she's laying next to me. She's receptive but then I stop. Which kills the momentum and she turns away and says "that's not the vibe... I only did it as you said you were tempted earlier"
• I laugh it off, act like nothing happened and everything is cool moving forward but I don't make any more moves

My theory:

• I failed the shit test. Snow storm was the perfect plausible deniability and this girl had a free place to stay but she stays with me (a stranger). She was at least open/curious to something happening but I had such mental hang ups about being a "predator" and taking advantage of the situation that I didn't push it enough whatsoever. Too much of a nice guy at heart lol.

• She also heard me talking to a friend about my dating life and I didn't realize she was listening in... So that may have got her guards up too. Also don't think I was her go-to type but is what it is.

Potential Solutions

• My 3 options I had which I'd like advice on are:
  • 1. Kiss her as soon as we got into the room to set the vibe then ease off and slow play (which seems like a hail mary)
  • 2. Get her laying next to me 15 minutes in "because it's cold" then slow play stroke her, have conversation then kiss within 30 minutes
  • 3. Do exactly what I did but then keep escalating until we have sex as it finally pops the suspense bubble at the "right time"

Very random situation so keen to hear people's thoughts!

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Haha... OMG! I had almost the EXACT same situation once. Some flights got canceled on a stop over, and the airline put all passengers up in a free hotel for the night. On the bus to the hotel I sat next to a hot girl, turned out she was a "soft-porn model", whatever that means... Spat some game at her on the bus.

Then waiting for our room at the hotel reception, I said "wow the line for single rooms is very long but the line for couple rooms is very short... let's grab a couple room together, I'll be outta there before you go to sleep anyway since my flight is in the evening and yours is in the morning... so you'll have the room to yourself tonight anyway."

She agreed so I tried to escalate immediately in the room... she almost went for it and then suddenly shut down saying "I can tell you do this to all the girls!" So switched gears back to my regular game and it was about 4 hours to the full monty then... man everyone who had been on that bus and in that hotel reception with us was really staring at me on the way to the plane haa. What a memory.

I think your diagnosis might be accurate, you may have just miscalibrated somewhere, a bit too timid with it (where I was a bit too aggressive with mine in the same situation)... I think the main thing would be isolate as soon as humanly possible, any excuse will do, and then go into the usual game plan, same exact shit you always do on all these countless LRs you've been posting lately lol!

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Haha... OMG! I had almost the EXACT same situation once. Some flights got canceled on a stop over, and the airline put all passengers up in a free hotel for the night. On the bus to the hotel I sat next to a hot girl, turned out she was a "soft-porn model", whatever that means... Spat some game at her on the bus.

Then waiting for our room at the hotel reception, I said "wow the line for single rooms is very long but the line for couple rooms is very short... let's grab a couple room together, I'll be outta there before you go to sleep anyway since my flight is in the evening and yours is in the morning... so you'll have the room to yourself tonight anyway."

She agreed so I tried to escalate immediately in the room... she almost went for it and then suddenly shut down saying "I can tell you do this to all the girls!" So switched gears back to my regular game and it was about 4 hours to the full monty then... man everyone who had been on that bus and in that hotel reception with us was really staring at me on the way to the plane haa. What a memory.

I think your diagnosis might be accurate, you may have just miscalibrated somewhere, a bit too timid with it (where I was a bit too aggressive with mine in the same situation)... I think the main thing would be isolate as soon as humanly possible, any excuse will do, and then go into the usual game plan, same exact shit you always do on all these countless LRs you've been posting lately lol!

Niceee you went for option 1, set the frame early then ease up and slow play after depending on her reaction.

Good to know - I’ll be better next time aha.

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

Yeah to be honest I over-escalated, which caused snap back and that's why it ended up taking 4 hours. Over-escalating also put me in a chase-frame where I want her but she's not down.

So I had to invert that first and frame it all as oh... she ruined a great moment but now I'm not interested anymore and now she's chasing me. Charging her money every time she touched me etc...

I could have probably done it a lot faster if I had calibrated the escalation a bit more slowly. That was in 2008/2009 when I was experimenting with all the Cali Pimp stuff.

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That stuff is good but... only in S1/S2 if you're familiar with the old school M3 lingo. Basically when you've already done solid mid-game and that is a wrap. Back then I was experimenting with doing this fast escalation as soon as I got any green lights to kiss - go all the way instead of a makeout.