FR Rejected by every girl in the club

[average_daygamer]

Well, I finat went to the club in my small approaching city (NOT the town where the incident occured from my previous field report). And I got rejected and a lot of blanks, ignoring, told to go away/f off, it was a chavy crowd. But I must be doing something wrong, because this can't be right.

Is it because they are too young and they as see me as older, I wonder. But I shouldn't be racking up blanket rejections like this.

Anyone down for some club game? I must be doing something wrong but there is nothing on nightgame on YouTube.

How does anyone get laid in these hellish establishments.

Luckily, I am gonna be heading out to the big bad city in a couple of weeks time. It's time for a reset. A HARD reset. London, is calling.

But then it's just street game, which means running after girls again.

This can't be all there is.

 

[lindsayrrr]

Were your fundamentals in check?

Was your opener in sync with the vibe of the venue?

Were you alone or with friends?

Were your rejections subtle or visible for all to see?

Were you feeling good and happy to be out?

Was your alcohol intake too much?

What's the age difference between you and the general crowd?

 

[average_daygamer]

Were your fundamentals in check?

Was your opener in sync with the vibe of the venue?

Were you alone or with friends?

Were your rejections subtle or visible for all to see?

Were you feeling good and happy to be out?

Was your alcohol intake too much?

What's the age difference between you and the general crowd?

1. No, I suffer from Asperger's

2. No, it was a chavy venue and I am middle class, atleast in mannerisms if not economically

3. Solo

4. Blowouts/visible

5. I don't like staying up late or alcohol, so no

6. I don't drink alcohol

7. The age difference is 15-20 years between me and the general crowd.

 

[lindsayrrr]

1. Fundamentals are covered in the book HTMGC and on the site.

2. I am middle class too and don't do too well. In higher class venue, so I'm not best person to ask on opening in classier venues. I would imagine it would require low key situational or direct high energy (venue dependant).
Go out and watch how the other guys open girls if you in a new place. Helps a lot.

3. Best way to learn and gain experience although a solid wingman can make it better.
It stands out tho if you getting rejected a lot. You become the "guy who hits on girls that no one likes". Take intervals between approaches if you get rejected alot.

4. Try to make the interactions fun so when a rejection happens it appears as if two people stopped talking and not a rejection.

5. You have to enjoy some part of it. Else if you in a bad mood it leaks into your vibe and approach and

 

[lindsayrrr]

6. Thats okay, being too drunk can mess up your approaches and turn off girls.

7. I'm no expert on approaching much younger girls though I would say be chill and calm about it.

 

[KJ Francis]

What sort of openers are you using?

I remember one you used in the past was walking up with your phone in hand and asking for their number?

Chase wrote a bit article for guys on the spectrum around the time and recommended using routines... A replicable process to follow.

I don't know much about aspergers (inability to read social cues?) But if you are a process based thinker you might want to read the Venusian Arts Handbook.

If you are getting all these blowouts you might be too high attainability (too easy) like you are coming in needy and wanting something from the girl. A value leech, so to speak.

I think the key there would be dialing back the early interest you are showing.

Have you tried just forgetting about trying to hit on girls and just start with socializing? Can you consider your first few sets as social warmups and just talk to people as if it were a work event or family party?

 

[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

Well, I finat went to the club in my small approaching city (NOT the town where the incident occured from my previous field report). And I got rejected and a lot of blanks, ignoring, told to go away/f off, it was a chavy crowd. But I must be doing something wrong, because this can't be right.

Is it because they are too young and they as see me as older, I wonder. But I shouldn't be racking up blanket rejections like this.

Anyone down for some club game? I must be doing something wrong but there is nothing on nightgame on YouTube.

How does anyone get laid in these hellish establishments.

Luckily, I am gonna be heading out to the big bad city in a couple of weeks time. It's time for a reset. A HARD reset. London, is calling.

But then it's just street game, which means running after girls again.

This can't be all there is.

Tbh if ur going out alone my recommendation is to make friends with a couple cool dudes that want to meet women as well

If ur chill with them and create a positive interaction they should have no problem wingmaning you, and vice versa

Even if a group of girls are receptive it’s harder to isolate if you’re the only one talking to them, it requires a lot more investment on a girls part that she may not be ready for, even if she is interested in you

Plus with a couple of people behind you, you seem more sociable and cool(unless the people with you are antisocial or doofuses)

 

[Orchard]

Are you going to work with a coach when you’re in London? You totally should -I do not mean that as a put down. I see you making effort!!! A coach is a perfect tool for you at this point.

 

[Skills]

I can tell you 100 percent have nothing to be with age..

 

[average_daygamer]

Tbh if ur going out alone my recommendation is to make friends with a couple cool dudes that want to meet women as well

If ur chill with them and create a positive interaction they should have no problem wingmaning you, and vice versa

Even if a group of girls are receptive it’s harder to isolate if you’re the only one talking to them, it requires a lot more investment on a girls part that she may not be ready for, even if she is interested in you

It's a good recommendation, this actually happened in the club where I had an incident with the bouncer. But there was a guy there who was quite funny and encouraging me to ask girls. We did a few sets together. But the trouble is, a lot of these guys are in groups with girls they already know.

Finding groups of single guys is rare. It's like another mission on top of approaching girls.

But it's solid advice and I have used it before. But eventually I end up going off and doing my own thing.

Are you going to work with a coach when you’re in London? You totally should -I do not mean that as a put down. I see you making effort!!! A coach is a perfect tool for you at this point.

I have worked with a daygame coach and had positive feedback with some recommendations.

But I have not found anyone who coaches night game. My current coach has a nightgame background but only coaches in daygame. He is a good solid guy who is more interested in daygame at the moment.

Nightgame is just so chaotic and it's not even a case of being alpha or primal, because that can attract the attention of the bouncers and lead to them intervening. It's certainly not as straightforward as some people will have you think.

 

[KJ Francis]

But I have not found anyone who coaches night game

Are you looking for in person only?

You missed Mystery and Beckster by a week. They just did London.

You could try reaching out to Beckster. If there are other good coaches in England, he would probably know.

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[Definitely_not_a_gymrat]

It's a good recommendation, this actually happened in the club where I had an incident with the bouncer. But there was a guy there who was quite funny and encouraging me to ask girls. We did a few sets together. But the trouble is, a lot of these guys are in groups with girls they already know.

Bro, that's can be even better, you can get introduced to the girls on warm leads from the guys(assuming they are not together), seduce those girls, or if you don't want those girls, friendzone them and make them your winggirl, use them for social proof. Girls will be a lot more warm to you if you get introduced through someone.

But it's solid advice and I have used it before. But eventually I end up going off and doing my own thing.

Yeah, you don't owe them anything, fine to go on your own way when you feel it, no one will be that butthurt if you just met them that night.

 

[Orchard]

It's a good recommendation, this actually happened in the club where I had an incident with the bouncer. But there was a guy there who was quite funny and encouraging me to ask girls. We did a few sets together. But the trouble is, a lot of these guys are in groups with girls they already know.

Finding groups of single guys is rare. It's like another mission on top of approaching girls.

But it's solid advice and I have used it before. But eventually I end up going off and doing my own thing.

I have worked with a daygame coach and had positive feedback with some recommendations.

But I have not found anyone who coaches night game. My current coach has a nightgame background but only coaches in daygame. He is a good solid guy who is more interested in daygame at the moment.

Nightgame is just so chaotic and it's not even a case of being alpha or primal, because that can attract the attention of the bouncers and lead to them intervening. It's certainly not as straightforward as some people will have you think.

I think you are absolutely right and having a good night game coach with you that can watch your interactions and adjust you will be huge.
I think it will help you better articulate situations and your behavior to us in cyberland.
and most importantly I think it will lead you to a better night game baseline.

 

[average_daygamer]

I think you are absolutely right and having a good night game coach with you that can watch your interactions and adjust you will be huge.
I think it will help you better articulate situations and your behavior to us in cyberland.
and most importantly I think it will lead you to a better night game baseline.

All of that is true, but all I ever see on YouTube is daygame.

From my experience, the hottest chicks are out at night. You hardly ever see them during the day.

So the question is, where does one even find a nightgame coach?

 

[reeax]

@Skills From what i understand, you are older than most guys here. You just told OP that it has 100% nothing to do with age. Would you be kind enough to elaborate a bit, like tell us the age group you are able to pull, and how these girls react during the process (ask you any questions about your age or whatsoever) ? I would be very interested in hearing about this. Thanks

 

[Skills]

@Skills From what i understand, you are older than most guys here. You just told OP that it has 100% nothing to do with age. Would you be kind enough to elaborate a bit, like tell us the age group you are able to pull, and how these girls react during the process (ask you any questions about your age or whatsoever) ? I would be very interested in hearing about this. Thanks

all ages tbh, in the last 5 years they don't even bring up the age, and i don't bring it up..... Some send me songs like this

As i said many times the key is to look in your 30s, as long as you look in your 30s you will be ok.... Dreamer is older as well gets younger(i told him to do a lr he just got a 19 year old, he looks younger does skin care crap), now that is not necessarily my target demo, but i go to clubs that are that age group.....

- dress cool for your demo above average (fundamentals)
-be fit above average(fundamentals)
- go under radar (indirect)
- be highest value guy (i am the highest value guy in the dance floor)

there are 3 types of young girls:

-does that will not do older no matter what
- does that would do older right scenario
- does that prefer older....

^ you also need to earn the group now a days or friends... Day game easier that you don't need to deal with that...