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A while back @Chase wrote an article on picking venues for night game if your goal is a one night stand. Living in NYC, one barrier I constantly feel like a guy can run into is girls with large social groups, usually mixed groups. I feel like what this can do is make pulling harder than it needs to be and presents a lot more obstacles than you can ask for. At times, I have found a way around this by simply approaching a girl who seems disengaged from the group itself.
Popular bars and nightclubs might actually be somewhat more promising for meeting girls but not as much for a one night stand.
@Velasco had a great point here about how certain NYC spots like Le Bain have been ruined by PUA spammers. I know for me how Le Bain used to be a gold mine a year ago when I would go out regularly; if I was not pulling, I was at least meeting women and getting them to a date and then a pull. PhD has also been good for me when I have managed to actually get in, that way I can meet women.
I have pulled a one night stand before from popular bars and clubs but once again, it is really down to picking out girls in a group of two or three. Unfortunately, when you encounter large social circles, you're pretty screwed.
I think dive bars and cocktail lounges are largely overrated and very hit or miss.
I know it is an NYC thing but dive bars and cocktail lounges are mostly a miss. The big issue is volume and consistency, you can go to a place one night that might have talent in it but most of the times, it is largely a miss. Most people are on dates or in a large group just wanting to chill like at a work happy hour or something. I think NYC is a terrible city for cocktail lounge and dive bar game if you want to meet girls.
Avoiding fresh out of college bars.
There was a spot I had a lot of success in on a weekday when I used to go out but it is very on and off. I find that the bars catered to a fresh out of college crowd are largely the ones where a lot of fights can happen, you are dealing with roided up guys, and women are still to a degree stuck in that sorority mindset. I also think these bars attract a lot of large groups.
So the night game dilemma.
On one hand, you want a bar with volume but on the other, you want to avoid a bar which is engulfed by people heading out in large massive groups. I find that the large group issue is a cockblock, especially if there are guys in that group as they can occasionally get jealous.
What worked for me in the past.
1. Finding bars that are up and coming and in a prime neighborhood
2. Going out more on weekdays
3. Avoiding any bar in a very touristy area
4. Finding what bars hot girls were heading to in a large group or walking in/out of in bigger numbers
I'd love to hear the thoughts of anyone familiar with NYC nightlife themselves.
@Grand Pooba
@Kvothe
@Velasco
Popular bars and nightclubs might actually be somewhat more promising for meeting girls but not as much for a one night stand.
@Velasco had a great point here about how certain NYC spots like Le Bain have been ruined by PUA spammers. I know for me how Le Bain used to be a gold mine a year ago when I would go out regularly; if I was not pulling, I was at least meeting women and getting them to a date and then a pull. PhD has also been good for me when I have managed to actually get in, that way I can meet women.
I have pulled a one night stand before from popular bars and clubs but once again, it is really down to picking out girls in a group of two or three. Unfortunately, when you encounter large social circles, you're pretty screwed.
I think dive bars and cocktail lounges are largely overrated and very hit or miss.
I know it is an NYC thing but dive bars and cocktail lounges are mostly a miss. The big issue is volume and consistency, you can go to a place one night that might have talent in it but most of the times, it is largely a miss. Most people are on dates or in a large group just wanting to chill like at a work happy hour or something. I think NYC is a terrible city for cocktail lounge and dive bar game if you want to meet girls.
Avoiding fresh out of college bars.
There was a spot I had a lot of success in on a weekday when I used to go out but it is very on and off. I find that the bars catered to a fresh out of college crowd are largely the ones where a lot of fights can happen, you are dealing with roided up guys, and women are still to a degree stuck in that sorority mindset. I also think these bars attract a lot of large groups.
So the night game dilemma.
On one hand, you want a bar with volume but on the other, you want to avoid a bar which is engulfed by people heading out in large massive groups. I find that the large group issue is a cockblock, especially if there are guys in that group as they can occasionally get jealous.
What worked for me in the past.
1. Finding bars that are up and coming and in a prime neighborhood
2. Going out more on weekdays
3. Avoiding any bar in a very touristy area
4. Finding what bars hot girls were heading to in a large group or walking in/out of in bigger numbers
I'd love to hear the thoughts of anyone familiar with NYC nightlife themselves.
@Grand Pooba
@Kvothe
@Velasco
