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1.Approached spanish woman in tight blue dress that had guys turning their heads to check her out. I saw her from across the steeet and seeing her immediately energized me. Pulled up alongside her said hi and told her she looked good. She said thanks. I asked what she was up to she said the salon which I didn't comprehend the first time. The train was right above us so it made communication difficult on top of my limited spanish. Exchanged names and tried to make small talk about the gym and food. She was about to go in a salon and I tried to close,but she said she can't she was married.

2.Approached hot spanish babe who said she knew some english and spanish. She said whatever you want to talk in. Told her I thought she was attractive in spanish and tried to converse with her. But I approached while she was about to cross with her friend in the middle of the street when I pulled up alongside her. Bad dynamics. When she crossed it looked like she was trying to pull away i think and I was trying to persist by speaking to her as I was trailing her ,but it almost looked like I was following her. She and her friend went into a phone shop so I just let it go. She was so fucking sexy and I bombed it. I hate shit like that.

Met up with wing. We talked and got to know one another. Pretty similiar skillset in game although I think he's better.

3.Tried to approach walking duo set and direct opened girl I liked she ignored me and walked away from me behind a bus stop to put her headphones on lol.

4.Approached girl sitting down reading a book in bench. Said he excuse me what kind of book are you reading. She said she didnt know. Was just a book she picked out. Told her I like books and spirituality and philosophy. She was friendly,but didnt seem too invested. I introduced my name and she did hers,but I didnt get the feeling she was open to talking further so i left her to read her book.

5.Tried to stop a girl on the sidewalk with airpods walking my direction she got startled. I put my hands up and said sorry I didn't mean to startle you. She laughed and said thats ok then took her aipod off. Told her I just wanted to stop and say I think she's cute. She said thanks I actually have a bf and said she appreciated it and walked away.

6.Saw a cute girl across the street,waited for her to cross then opened her as we were walking and right before she was about to enter a building. Told her I thought she looked nice. She smiled and said thanks. I asked if this is her place she said she was gonna help a friend move. I told her I was on my way to washington square park to meet up with a friend we got lost. She was in a rush so I tried to number close quickly and she told me she doesnt give out her number to strangers. I didn't know how to counter that so I tried to suggest snapchat and she said she doesnt use snapchat lol. Tried to relate to her about strangers saying there's a lot of wackos in nyc. I think I tried to suggest that she could take my # down and not respond,but idk if I clearly communicated that. She told me she thought it was sweet to go up to her like that and told me to have a good day.

7.Saw a thicc maybe spanish girl in gym attire walking made eye contact prior and I turned around, went near to open her and said "hey I saw you walk by and wanted to say I think you look nice". I kind of stammered a bit. She said thanks. I tried to persist as she was walking away and asked what she was up to she said she's kinda of in a rush and told me to have a good day(sigh)

8.Was following this hot blonde and saw another hot girl about to cross the street. Went after her,walked in front a bit,opened her and told her hey I thought she was attractive and she smiled and said thanks. I asked if she had a minute to stop and talk and she said no she can't,but thank you (lol). I probably could've screened for logistics or something to see if she had a time constraint or just walk for a bit.

9.Me and my wingman saw a girl walking I call dibs. I walked up to her,stopped and said hey I wanted to say I think you're cute. She showed me her ring and said she's married. I said oh ok. She says bye and walked away I told her I hope she had a good marriage lol.
A cute girl passes by me in the park we make eye contact, I turn around and try to stop and open her,but she walks by.

10.A girl with curly hair is sitting in a park bench. I go up to her say hey I was curious about your book what is it? She said a name I said oh is it a romance novel she was like um no its a war novel. I said oh what war she said umm ww1. Then I kind of froze and bounced without saying anything. I felt I was asking too many questions and didn't wanna linger around.

Set a personal record for girls by approaching 10 in a day by myself in nyc. I always worry if I take 5-6 days off from approaching i'll struggle heavily with AA ,but every weekend I leave to go approach women I don't have much issue so long as I see women I like. I like the wing he's a cool cat we'll prob hang again. Most of my approaches were spent away from him while he was out talking to girls on his own. The first two approaches I did were where I lived.

A lot of my approaches my fundamentals were off. Almost all of them I had that stupid soft spoken boy voice that almost sounds like he's seeking women's approval and hoping girls will give him a chance. Also my eye contact might not have been consistent. I have no clue on whether to walk with girls or whether I should try to stop them downtown.

Downtown approaches always intimidates me more. People are in much more of a rush,sidewalks are more congested and there's less of a community feel. This is why new yorkers have the reputation of always moving. I had a lot of quick blowouts today and on my way home thinking about that made me kinda sad. I was looking ahead to the future and wondering how many of these kind of days am I going to have to experience until I get laid. Approaching was something I took pride in,but maybe i'm getting to the point where approaching without any results doesn't rejuvenate me as much.
 
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1.Left a walgreens and saw a lady with a stroller and a kid in a olive green dress. Asked if she spoke english she said yeah i told her she looked nice in her dress she lit up and really appreciated it. I was kinda stumbling talking to her. Asked what she was up to she said going home cuz her kid needs to go to sleep. Asked if she was single she said no sorry. For some reason I had troubling comprehending what that meant lol. Realized no means she has a man duh. Told her to have a good day she said thanks.

2.Opened a girl in a dress after she got finished using an atm. Told her I liked her dress. She said thanks. I was nervous and stumbling a bit. Asked what she was doing now and she said she had to do errands I responded ok and she walked away and said thanks.

Went home to eat some food and then fought with myself to leave the house again. Told myself I could just leave to get a haircut I don't have to approach if I didn't want to.

3.Opened a gym bunny looking bitch with a nice ass,but a strong jawline wasn't super cute. I jogged up near her,stopped we made eye contact. Then I turned away out of nervousness and just direct opened her in spanish. Kinda butchered the interaction. I asked if she spoke english she said yeah. I told her oh ok I didn't know a lot of people in this community spoke spanish. She was about to go into a cvs. I said wait and she stopped and I asked for her name and introduced myself. She said her name. Then I just tried to suggest we get a drink and she said no. My tonality was soft,didn't build any rapport and kind of jumped the gun to close cuz I didn't know what else to say. Could've coldreaded that she goes to the gym cuz of her body. She kinda had buff arms too. Maybe tease her on how brolic she is.

4.Some spanish lady with long hair wearing a cute dress was walking my direction and I tried to stop her I said se habla ingles she said no and just walked past me. I could've maybe said excuse me or direct compliment her in spanish to open and that could've gotten her to stop and listen.
 

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Came out of work from the train and was thinking about what to get to eat and I see this cute tall girl with a nice ass walking in the direction towards my house. I thought she was headed to the bus stop and take the bus,but she walked past it so I thought ok I had to make the most of this opportunity so I disregard food. She was walking fast so I kinda had to jog. I had a bookbag so it was hard to do so covertly and not be heard. There was a redlight and she stopped so I walk up next to her. I felt the old anxiety and nervousness where I felt almost too scared to say a word. When I would feel like this I would let the opportunity slip by and not say anything like these two hot girls I liked earlier. Then I decide fuck it i'm going to jump in

"Hey..excuse me"(excuse me is like my personal crutch when I open a girl) she looks up from her phone
"I wanted to say that I think you're cute"
"Oh.. thank you" she laughs
"Are you coming home from work? Make a cold read based on her coat/jacket and bag holding.
"Uhh no. I'm coming from my friend's house. (She laughs)
"Oh you looked like you're dressed for work"
"No yeah... I just came from my friend's house".
"Oh ok" walking signal comes up
"Thanks"
"Yeah sure" then she speeds up ahead before I could think on my feet and hold her attention.

That's what rust and over a week of not approaching will do. Looking back I should've said wait and try to introduce myself or get her to do it. I also could've tried to banter and joke prior "so you must work at your friend's house then!"
I was dissapointed that I didn't do a better job cuz she was cute and young close to my age ,but I need to get back into rythm and just build up my approaching habit again. I wish approach memory was easy to access like muscle memory. It can be,but I guess it won't always be on your 1st approach.
 

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In the afternoon right outside my workplace I stopped to get breakfast at this vendor cart and I saw one of my colleagues there. Dabbed him up and requested my usual breakfast sandwhich. Then I saw a blonde wearing a cute dress and wearing makeup on and I thought damn I would love to approach her,but she's probably gonna walk past me and my guy is here. She ended up stopping behind me to buy food. My coworker was there so I couldn't open her with him there,but luckily he only got coffee and left. He paid for my sandwhich too so I didnt have to leave and withdraw cash from the bank. I turned to her and said do you wanna order? Then she went and told the vendor her request. I tell her
"hey I wanted to say I think you're cute". She didn't hear me the first time and leaned her head in. I repeated myself and made eye contact with her and she said thanks and liked it.
"So what are you up to?
"I'm headed to work"
"Oh ok same. Getting my breakfast sandwhich before I start. You're doing the same?"
"No i'm actually just getting coffee"
"Oh ok. I drink coffee too. But I find that coffee gets me anxious and jittery sometimes"
"Oh yeah me too. It does that sometimes."
"So it's not just me that's a relief"
"Yeah no it can do the same for me too"
"Do you work in the area?"
"Yeah. I literally work right there" and pointed across the street. I didn't ask what place in particular.
"Oh ok. I work right here and getting my breakfast sandwhich to start.
Btw what's your name"
"A"
"Hi A i'm star nice to meet you" extend my hand and she shakes it.
"So in your job is there a dress code or you can dress however you like"
"Nope no dress code. I can dress in whatever I want" could've made a joke like so you can come to work in your bathing suit then!
"Oh ok. Me at my job I have to wear black"
"Black can be cute" her coffee was prepared.
"Well it was nice meeting you I hope you have a great day"
"Yeah. Hey.. I wanted to ask if you would be down.... to grab coffee sometime?" (As she gets coffee lol)
"Oh i'm actually engaged"
"Oh ok"
"Thank you tho I really appreciate it"
"Yeah no problem. You're fiance is a lucky guy"
"Thanks. You have a good day" she smiles as she walks away

Never approached a woman in my work area before work. I was always worried someone from work would see me. Good exposure for me. Interactions like this reminds me that approaching can be fun and not always strenous. Could be more decisive when it comes to suggesting dates. I pause sometimes when i'm not sure how to phrase my openers or closes.
 
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Starboy

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Was feeling frustrated with my lack of action and low volume recently so I called out of work to go approach. Although I might not have been able to do so,but idgaf fuck work I wanna talk to some girls.

Approach 1 attempt:See some spanish lady with brownish hair walking and I can't get in front of her because the sidewalk is tight and she was about to walk into a salon. She opened the door so I tried to get her attention real quick and I said excuse me in spanish and she turned and I asked her if she spoke english and she shook her head and went inside. Took too long should've opened her way before.

Approach 2: Came out the gym and saw some girl by herself with airpods. I told myself fuck it i'mma go talk to her I tell her she's cute while looking her in the eyes she smiles and says thanks. Then I ask if she's going to the gym cuz of how she's dressed and she said she already went to the gym. We both came out the same gym and I ask her what she worked out on and she said legs. I joke that she's trying to work out that booty and she laughs. I ask her name and she tells me she has a bf and I tell her to take it as a compliment and to have a good day.

Approach 3: I go up to these two spanish ladies waiting outside a building and I tell the girl I like I think she's cute in spanish she smiles and says thank you. I try to converse in spanish with her and her friend and they both share their names. I actually hook them for a bit. But I ran out of stuff to talk so I just asked the girl I targeted if she was married she said yes so I just wished her well. The other lady wasn't as cute,but she was thic and could get it. But she got on the phone so I didn't really have the opportunity to try and close her.

Approach 4: see cute girl with glasses in a black dress with a latte walking in my direction so I tell myself fuck it. I stop and said "hey excuse me I wanted to say you look really nice in your dress." She pauses and goes "um thanks" a bit confused and then starts to walk away,but I say wait and she stops briefly. I couldn't think of anything else to say so I ask her what's she's doing right now and she tells me she's going to meet up with her bf. I tell her no problem and to have a good day.

Approach 5 attempt: I see a cute girl with a nice dress walking in the same direction I was walking so while i'm walking alongside her I say "hey excuse me",but she doesn't turn her head. I'm pretty sure I was loud enough for her to hear me,but she choose to ignore me. Would've been better if I opened her while I was further in front of her.

Approach 6: across the street I see a woman with a nice ass on her phone not paying attention so I cross the street and open her while walking in the opposite direction which I came from. I ask her if she speaks english she nods and I tell her she has a nice figure she says thanks. Her reaction didn't make me feel that confident she was open so I ask her what's she up to and she tells me she has to do "something" didn't specify. Coulda made her elaborate by saying "this something must be very important and exciting tell me more about it!". I introduce my name and she complies. I ask her if she lives around here and I tell her I do as well. Make a statement about our area,but she isn't really that interested. I just ask her if she's in a relationship and she says yes so I tell her thats ok and to have a good day and she says thanks.

Approach 7 attempt: see a hot spanish woman in a black dress with a nice ass maybe fake i'm not sure and I try to open her walking alongside her and she turns her head away. I even try to spit my direct opener,but she walks into this Chase bank.

Went to cut my hair and beard which was much needed and was wanting to go approach more women right after my haircut,but my barber kinda cut my face so I needed to clean up at home. I could've gone out again after showering,but my mood wasn't great and I was frustrated with today.

Got the approach momentum back and I don't question my motivation as much for going out to approach women. I have plenty of motivation to go meet women. Especially with how amazing women are dressed in the summertime. But it sucks getting nothing from my efforts and failing over and over. I don't want to be bitter,but it's really easy to get bitter over how lopsided the game is and how difficult it is to learn to be at least competent. I repeat Austen Summers mantra of "get better not bitter" because I know I have to stay on this path. There is no other path for me to take and have a chance of achieving success with women.
 
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Approach 1
Came out the gym looking for girls to talk to and I see this spanish looking girl across the street. Wasn't super cute,but I liked her body so I open her in spanish walking alongside her. She smiles and says thanks and we introduce ourselves. I dive her a bit in spanish asking where she's from,when she came to the US,is she trying to learn english, what she was up to. I ran out of things to talk and I try to close her and she laughed and said no gracias. Didn't really talk about myself much which I need to do more.

Approach 2
Saw some girl way off in the distance in purple shorts and a purple top and a nice booty and I thought I want dat ass so I caught up to her. I said excuse me opened her from the side while I was next to her and she stopped and looked confused. I told her I thought she was cute and she just walked off ahead. My vocal tonality sucked and her looking confused made me insecure in the moment.

Approach 3
Saw some babe with a nice fat ass going up the staircase to the subway station and I thought fuck it i'm talking to her even if she goes inside the train. She wasn't as cute as I ,but it didnt matter she looked good. I fumbled the opener. I asked if she spoke english than said she was attractive after being indecisive with how I would compliment her. She said oh thanks. Then I tried to ask what she was up to and she said sorry I had a bf real quick. Displayed shoddy body language and was too indecisive and that killed it. I slowly walked to the opposite side of the platform and then left after a couple minutes to go after another girl in the distance Basically paid 2.75 just to get rejected by a girl lol. First for everything.

Approach 4
The girl I saw before went into some place so I couldn't talk to her and then a couple blocks later I see this big booty,booby girl walking her two dogs towards my direction and I thought fuck it.
"Perdon?" She stops and I get the feeling she can speak english.
"What kind of dogs are those?"
"Oh this one is a maltese dog and this one is a...." forgot the other breed. She kinda eagerly said what dogs she had. Pet owners love talking about their dogs.
"Oh are they like brothers and sisters"
"No they're not"
"Oh so they were like adopted at different times" I think she says yeah.
"Also I wanted to say I think you're cute"
"Thanks." She smiles.
She's about to walk off and I say wait. She stops and I didn't know what to say further and I pause and look away for a moment or two and I just try to close because couldn't come up with anything in the moment.
"I know this is kinda random...,but would you be down to hangout sometime?"
"I'm sorry I can't... i'm married" I almost think this was a fake partner rejection because of how long she took to respond. Then watching Tony's latest vid on women telling you they're married or have a bf I ask about her marriage.
"So is it a good marriage?" I ask and she actually stops to think about it.
"Yeah it's good. I would say".
" I hope so. I think every women deserves to be in a good marriage where they're appreciated." Don't remember how she felt when I said this.
"Do you have any kids"
"These are my kids!" She laughs
"Your little furbabies hope you feed them well" End the interaction on a light note and wish each other farewell.

Approach 5
Went up the hill and saw this spanish milf with her daughter and I was contemplating whether I approach her because she already passed by and i'm literally going down where I already came from so idk it would be percieved,but I thought fuck it its better to approach than not to approach. I walk back down to the end of the block where she's waiting for the light and I tell her in spanish excuse me I wanted to say I think you're cute and she says thanks. I ask if she speaks any english she says no. I remark that she's walking with her daughter and she says yeah and then the light turns green and she says bye and walks off. Didn't know how else I could engage with her.

Set a goal of approach 7 girls to talk to ,but my mood and state got weaker and more self defeating so I left it at 5 which is not too bad. I saw two hotties that got me excited that I wanted to approach,but one got in a uber just as I was getting near her and the other one was outside while I was waiting for my milkshake at dunkin and I never found her.

Just another day of grinding. I wanna be able to open indirect,but it's hard to do it on the fly during the daytime. If a girl is walking dogs its easy to talk about that then transition into something else.
 
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Met up with a new wing downtown. Doesn't have much cold approach experience so I just taught him what I know. We went to get food and I saw this babe in gymwear with a fat ass walk back several times and with my food in my hand I told my wing imma go talk to her so I went after her.

Crossed the block and I got by the side of her and said hi. She got startled at first and so I put her at ease and we both laughed it off and she was bubbly.
I told her she was sexy in the most confident suave way I could and she said thanks and lit up from that. I asked her what she was up to she told me she was gonna go to the bank and then the spa right afterwards. I think I immediately made a cold read and asked her if she's going to the gym. She said she actually just came from the gym. Then she was on her way to the bank and then the spa afterwards. I ask her what gym she went to and she said planet fitness. I tell her I went to the gym earlier,she asks me what and I tell her blink fitness. Talk about gyms for a bit. Tell her I used to have planet fitness,but it lacks certain equipment and she agrees. She has the membership where she can bring a guest.She tells me she wants to go to a more expensive gym so I joke she wants to be boujee and she laughs and agrees. Everyone has dreams of living like a king and queen. To go from rags to riches. I tell her i'm jealous that she's going to the spa and I only have been to a spa once. I ask her if she's a student she said she graduated already and asks me if I am a student. I tell her I also graduated too and high five her. Tells me where she went to school and where she used to live. We reach the Chase bank and she almost says bye and I tell her wait let's exchange #s and grab a drink sometime and she says ok. Asks for my ig I tell her I deactivated it bcuz it was too addicting and i'm on a detox. I'm like let's exchange #s instead. She tells me her number and name, I show her my phone she double checks it on my phone. She asks me for my name again I tell her. Then I tell her it was nice meeting her, i'll text her and give her a goodbye hug. She says same to me.

Felt really good from this interaction. Then I go around central park with the wing and point some girls for him to open and compliment and I show him how to open and how to do it in a relaxed manner. I point out what he does wrong and tell him some technical and philosophical things. I didn't really approach much I more just opened and made comments to women that passed by. After getting a # on my first approach i'm less motivated to talk to women.

In the middle of all this a older woman whose # i got a couple months ago who I haven't been in contact with since texts me "hey love how are you". I was so suprised and couldnt believe it. I got this right after I got that girls# from earlier too. I asked hector what to text her and he tells me what to do. I text her hey cutie, i'm good real good, how have you been? She tells me she's traveled to aruba,in travel mode and other than that she's just been working and at home. I text her other unneccesary boring text. Then I just cut to the chase. I tell her " i've actually thought about you recently,i'm dissapointed we never got to have a drink,I think we'd have a really good connection" in separate lines. Then she texts me yea and asks me if i'm free 2mm or if i'm working at any other time in the week. I tell her i'm off 2mm and try to suggest a bar that's right next to this motel I wanna pull her to,but she's not eager to go there and wants something close to her neighborhood. She says she's been to the bar I suggested. I text her "but I haven't so you can tell me the good drinks! Lol" She didn't respond so far.

Hector says I tried too much to maintain perfect logistics and should've just went for the date. Also too much energy over text. Tells me not to text her and wait for her to respond and hold frame.

I texted the hottie from earlier since I felt we had a really good talk. Asked her "N how was the spa treatment?sounds great for gym recovery. No response so far. I was wondering if its too late to text her I sent a text at 10:03. I was experimenting with different ways to text by trying to start a conversation the same day I get her #. I just met this girl today and had a great interaction with her so my window with this girl should still be open so i'm not too concerned. Today was a great day.
 
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1.Approached a hb in a black sundress who was the thicc that I like. I suspected she was spanish so I say hola and ask if she speaks english she didn't respond initially. I then just compliment her in spanish and tell her she looks nice and she responded positively. As i'm walking alongside her she walks behind me and is about to enter this kids clothing store. She opens the door and I tell her i'm headed to the gym and I ask her if she's shopping. Then I guess that she has kids and she says she has three. I try to introduce myself she tells me nice to meet you and I persist for her name and she says Gina. Her name sounds familiar and I try to ask her if we've already met before,but couldn't communicate that properly. Then I ask her if she has a partner and she says si amor. I ask esposa and she says yes. I say esposo no esposa and she laughs and I tell her espanol es no mi primero lengua and she says es perfecto. no esta importa. I try end the interaction on good terms and tell her I hope she has a good marriage and she says thank you. I tell her bye and to have a good rest of the day. Towards the end particularly after I said I hoped she had a good marriage I noticed her body language changed a bit in a way that may have indicated she isn't totally closed off to me.Maybe because I said it in a genuine way and like I meant it and she felt I wasn't needy. I believe there's a chance that I could've persisted despite her telling me she had a husband and kids ,but i'm never really sure. I could've bantered about her having three boys and how sons are a problem and how being a boy myself I caused issues for my mom. Also when I mixed up the words husband and wife in spanish to her I could've joked "maybe you have both a husband and wife!"

1/2 Approach I see some spanish looking lady with airpods who was walking towards me as I got to the end of the sidewalk and I said perdon and got her attention briefly,but I was a bit far from her and she was walking a little bit as she turned to look to me that it disrupted my flow mentally and I didn't even properly open her. I woulda just told her in spanish that she looked nice,but the commotion in the highway distracted me. I didn't feel like I could project my words to her especially since she had airpods in on top of that. I have to be closer when I open.

Approach 3 I see this girl off in the distance wearing a black dress who crosses the street to get to crosswalk i'm in. I pull up next to her say hi excuse me and I tell her I think she looks nice and she says thanks,but doesn't really hook much. I saw she had directions pulled up on her phone and asked if she was looking for this bus and she said no i'm just looking for the light as it turned green and walked way up head lol. Not a good idea to look at a girl's phone and ask her about it. Not my business unless she shows me.

Approach 4 After walking around for an hr or two I was tired and decided to get a milkshake and I saw this hot dominican babe from head to down wearing a jean dress or something. Pretty face had makeup on,nice boobs and a ass. I was a bit nervous because it was in a store,but I try to open her anyways. I kind of feebishly say hi excuse me. She turns and I tell her I think she's pretty and she smiles and says I spoke to her before. She turns away and I think wow that's a first. I make a comment about what flavor she's getting and she says she's getting one for her daughter too. I get called by the cashier to place an order and she leaves with the two ice creams.

I felt a bit uncomfortable knowing I approached a girl i've already spoken to before. This is like one of the micro fears I have with doing daygame because it could have a macro effect of me getting a reputation. Hopefully that fear is overblown because i'm not a autistic clumsy,awkward guy when I approach women and i'm not super uncalibrated to the point where women harshly reject me by or run away. At worst if I get blown off by being ignored,but i've never had a girl get really bothered or upset by me approaching her. So even if I did reapproach a girl for a 2nd time it will probably just end up like this one instance This guy I know says he's reapproached girls from daygame 20 to 30 times and while it's a bit awkward initially it's not a big deal so i'm hoping that's the case.

My vocal tonality is still an issue,but I have not done myself any favors with how much porn i've been consuming lately. Just yesterday I wacked off to it and while I can still approach without nofap I need to cut that shit out i'm making it more difficult for myself. I also need to go back to the gym consistently and build up my testosterone and feeling of masculinity.
 
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Saw a tall blonde babe in pink gym attire and walked alongside her and told her gym attire was cute. "Thanks! I really appreciate it"
"It's like a very bright dark pink.Are you going to the gym now or you just came from there?"
"I actually came from pilates class"
"Oh pilates so that's like yoga right except..."
"It's with machines yeah"
I introduce myself and she does the same and shakes my hand. Taylor. Ask what she's up to she says she's on her way to her apartment to shower and get ready for her day. She asks me what i'm up to and I say i'm on my way to meet my friend. She says oh that's cool. I tell her i'm looking for this food place. She points in the direction perpendicular to the direction we was walking in which was behind us. I try to close her,but she tells me she has a bf. Nice sweet girl.

I tell my wing to point me to talk to a girl and I awkwardly get in front of her by squeezing through these people and I open her. She just told me she wasn't interested. Well I wasn't that interested either not a cute looking girl I only went to talk to her cuz my wing pointed her.

Try to open some other girl in the park,but wasn't in front of her and wasn't assertive enough so I get ignored

As I walk around outside the park I see these two hot girls walking they're in gym attire and I look away at some point and next thing I know they're talking to some dude. I'm thinking is he their friend,but I walk closer and the girls are telling him where they're from and i'm like holy shit this guy is actually spitting game at this two set which I was too afraid to do and seemed to have the girls hooked and immersed. He wasn't even that good looking either and had a slender frame. Idk how far he got with them. He stops talking to them and I call out to him:
"Hey excuse me bro.. were you just spitting game at those girls?"
As he's walking away from me he looks back and says "Always" lmao.

I see some blonde girl who looked good and my wing urges me to go talk to her. I kind of wait a little bit when i'm by her and I do this thing where I look around before opening her. I tell her she's cute and she says thanks and I walk with her and I ask her what's she's up to and I guess just walking around. I comment how hot it is and how I wish nyc was hot like other warm cities. She tells me she's actually not from here and just here to do her masters online at the nearby university. She's from philly. I joke the city of brotherly love. She's staying at a hotel and wasn't here for long. She was going to get water and I ask her too many questions and take too much value and eventually she ejects by telling me it was nice talking to me,but she has to go. New to the city,has her own logistics prime girl to pull,but I fuck it up. Need to learn to not always be asking questions it's a habit of mine that needs fixing.

I had a lot of AA when it came to this park and the area surrounding it and i'm not sure why. For some reason I feel uncomfortable hitting on girls in parks even though it's supposed to be one of the easier places to talk to girls according to the community.

Me and my wing buddies leave at some point and I decide to just head into a store to browse for clothes potentially. I don't see much interesting stuff,but I see this asian kid talking to this cute white girl who worked there who had her face covered. It looked like he was actually trying to spit game at her,but not to the same level as I saw with the guy near the park who really hooked these girls. The kid asks for her snapchat or # I think and she gives it to him.

At some point they split up and then a few minutes later I open her and ask about the merchandise in the store and how often they replenish it and change stock. She says they do it almost everyday and I comment on how much work it is. Then I relate my retail job to what she does and she is pretty immersed in convo. She says it's only her 3rd day working there. I conclude she's not from NY and I ask where and she says Oregon. I'm fascinated and she tells me about her city a little bit. She says she likes nyc so far and we talk about the city and her job. I'm able to transition pretty good and not hard for me to come up with stuff to talk about with her. She says likes the restaurants near the area and she says she's 20 minutes away and lives with her roommate. Perfect scenario a girl with her own place and new to the city like the other girl. This time I wasn't gonna fuck it up. I ask her out somewhere in between the middle and end of the interaction and have her put her name and number in my phone. She's actually half latino and I overheard in her conversation with the asian kid that she's jewish as well which explains why she's so pale. At some point our conversation ends and we part ways.

Funny how I almost thought today was a bad outing even though I actually tried to approach women,but all it took was one more approach to make something happen. I could feel my ego being negative afterwards thinking "oh she's probably just another flaky girl who won't respond back to my texts" ,but I need to stop letting negative thoughts influence me. It's a really nasty habit of mine. To always assume the less desireable outcome will happen. Whether this girl actually responds to my texts in the future or she is added to the list of girls who ghosts me it shouldn't matter. What matters is that i'm moving forward and developing myself so that months and years down the line I will have better social skills than I do today.
 

Starboy

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I've lost some momentum for pickup and I think it had to do with a combination of too much porn and lack of action. I only did daygame because I thought it was easier and manageable for me ,but I saw a video from Todd V that convinced me to try nightgame since he said it would also help with daygame.

I bought a ticket to this club online for only $20. But even after I bought it my ego was terrified of going out at night by myself. My wings weren't free and I shared my fear with them and they said just stepping foot in the place and experiencing the environment would be a big win and I agreed.

I went to work dressed in what I would wear if I went out which was a Michael kors long sleeved button down and michael kor jeans and these all white nike airs zoom pegasus 38 sneakers. My stomach was hurting from the chick fila I ate earlier and I wanted to go home,but I had already told people I was going as a way of accountability so I couldn't back out. I wasn't excited and looking forward to going because of my ego chirping and my naturally low energy level. What changed my perspective was on the train where I saw this cute asian girl wearing some kind of dress which exposed her nice shaped legs who was probably going out herself and that got me thinking there are gonna be babes like that in the club and around and that got me excited.

I was really early to the place so I walked around the area exploring and checking out all the bars and the people surrounding it. It was really eye opening how many hot girls were around. I always worry over the slightest things like developing a reputation when I don't even approach nearly enough to develop one,but there's such a large abundance of women that it won't happen.

I wanted to warm up and be social so after some hesitation and anxiety I open this girl standing near the edge of the sidewalk on her phone and compliment her hat and she appreciates it. She was kinda big,but I think she was still cute although she had makeup on like most girls out(she also had some nice titties). I asked her if she was waiting to be seated in the restaurant nearby and she said she was and I told her where I was going and said I came early and was exploring the area. She knew the venue and said it was good. We spoke to each other about the area,where we lived,where we came from, work. She asked if my friends were going to and I told her that they weren't free so that I decided to check it out for myself to experience it. I comment that I don't get why people think you're weird or a social outcast for wanting to check out places by yourself and she said yeah totally it's fine to go to do things on your own. We spoke for 5 to 10 minutes and she said she was gonna talk to the hostess and it was nice talking and to have fun. Idk if I should've gotten her # or something to meet up with later that night cuz I probably would've been down to fuck her,but I didn't flirt with her at all or build any compliance so whatever.

I walk around and observe the area some more and I decide to eat burger king cuz I thought I was hungry. That might've upset my stomach some more. I go back to the place at 10 when my ticket is for and these two girls show up and I was nervous to chat with them too. AA? At some point I say fuck it and ask them
"hey ladies I wanted to ask... do you think it's lame to go to a party early?"
"No absolutely not! You're the first in line."
"Yeah I always thought if you get there too early you're just gonna be there by yourself... You wanna arrive when people arrive and the party's actually started"
"The good thing about coming early is that you can pregame before everyone gets there... and some clubs won't let you in if you come too late."
I talk with them on and off for another min or two and then one of the employees calls the girls over. I didn't really introduce myself to the girls or ask for their name. I chat up this guy nearby who says likes to go to the club to dance. We actually discuss ng dynamics a bit and he tells me about DUFF(Designated ugly fat friend). Although I didn't get the feeling he was into game he was likely a normal guy. Bouncer starts letting people into the club and he scans my card and wouldn't let me in cuz my id expired over a year ago. Just my luck I had all this buildup in my head worrying about what's gonna happen and I get myself in position and i'm not even allowed in.

I thought fuck what do I do? I thought it would be such a waste to just go home right away.I open some girl standing outside this lounge with her friend and ask her it this line was for a club or lounge and she said she wasn't really sure what it was. I tried telling her about how I wasn't let into this club cuz my id was expired,but she wasn't really interested.

I walk around and go inside this bar that I thought looked cuz I had to use the bathroom. Then I observe the bar to see what girls I could open and didn't find many girls I wanted to talk to. I saw these two girls talking facing each other seated at the bar,but it was loud and I wasn't sure how to open.

Around the area I see even more establishments with lots of people,but I saw a lot of people seated in big groups outside the bars and inside I didn't like the dynamics so I didn't go inside.

I hop on the train home deciding to just call it a night. When I get off the train I decide to check out this small bar that I know is pretty solid that people like to go to. I show the bouncer my id and walk inside and after I walk in and look around I exchange some prolonged eye contact with this hot blonde latina. It was kinda neutral eye contact and she was close to a table with a guy who I could tell later on was her bf. Music is playing and girls are dancing and twerking on each other. I squeeze past them and just post up on this table next to this guy sitting down by himself. I observe the room and I spot some cuties and hotties. But I was too insecure to open girls while they are seated with their friends and I wasn't feeling like dancing either with the girls. I look to see how other guys dress when out and I was probably the best dressed guy in the room. Most of the other dudes were dressed in hoodies,shirts. I leave after 10 minutes.

One of my fears in bars and clubs are guys being a dickhead or acting aggressive just for coming up to talk to girls in their group. I don't handle social pressure very well and when you're an outsider of a friend group you have to know how to handle that. I also thought what if the girl has a bf and he gets protective or defensive for going up to his girl.

I was annoyed that I didn't even get to go in the club,but maybe it was for the best since my stomach bothered me for much of the night. I learned just from roaming the nightlife neighborhood that nobody gives a fck about you even if you're walking around by yourself and everyone is focused on themselves. People are also friendlier than I expected. I had this belief that people in the night act like deucebags,but that's not always the case. I can see why some people in the community say nightgame is harder than daygame even though it's more socially acceptable. There's a lot of distractions and influences you have to overcome that you don't need to worry about in the day. So this was a small step for me which I never would've taken if I followed my emotions.
 

Starboy

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I did some daygame earlier today and did about 4 approaches. Nothing I find memorable and worth writing down in great detail. Except I was able to do a frontal stop. Although I used a directions opener pretending like I was looking for this gym that I just came from lol. She said she was playing tennis and she was late and before I could've engaged with her she ejected. The other three approaches were all milfs with me ejecting early and not persisting,not hooking cuz weak vibe and fundies and hired gun in a metropcs who I talked with for a bit,but had a husband. The last milf was the one that felt good.

I go to cut my hair and come back home my parents aren't there and I decide i'm gonna go downtown and check out some bars. It's sunday night and I could've easily told myself it's ok to chill I already approached some women during the day,but I hopped on the train anyways.

I went to this bar called the beauty bar. Not a lot of traffic in there. Every sunday they have a comedy show in the room in the back. I had no idea it was happening. I watched the show and didn't laugh at most of their jokes,but all the white people did. Maybe they were drunk. I chatted with the bartender who told me its the busiest on fri and sat past 11 and they have a dance party on those days. I told this woman in a red button down shirt her shirt was cute and after a few secs she responded back and said thanks and went back to sit down with her friends. I opened this girl who's bf went to the bathroom and asked her if she to saw the comedy show. Don't remember her response. Told her it was my 1st time here and she said it was her 2nd time at the bar. Some other stuff was said that I don't recall and then her bf came out and she told me to have a good night.

I left that bar and there was another bar with a lot of young people inside and music playing so I check that out. They was blasting country music and the floors were sticky af with beer and liquor. Everyone was either bumping to the music or all the girls were engaged with someone and I didn't know how to open or what to talk about. What I would normally talk about during daygame wouldn't work as well in a bar with loud music. I spoke to the female bartender and asked if this was a country bar and she said that every sun live music plays from a band and fri and sat is when it turns into a mini dance club. I leave that bar at some point after not opening any girls. I went to 13th step which was well spaced,but not many people. I talk to the bartender,bouncer who said the bar is poppin on fridays and saturdays. After waiting a while I open this girl sitting next to me who was taking pics with her friend. I thought they were lesbian,but they're not they're roommates. I get her attention and make a comment on her tattos on her right arm and the plastic she has wrapped around it. I ask if she comes here a lot she says yeah I think. She and her friends were graduating and they lived further uptown. I was able to exchange names and shake her hand,but she wasn't really much interested in talking her friend kept getting her attention. I didn't know how to open and engage with her friend. She and her friend leave at some point we don't even say bye to each other. There was some girl wearing a jets hat who I wanted to talk to who was talking to some dude and I would've opened her on the jets hat being a fan,but she and her friend left. I ask this girl in glasses how her night was and i dont remember what she said. She didn't really hook.

I leave that bar and check out one last bar on this little list I have called solas. It's this really dark bar with a upstairs that was closed and a curtain that lead into another room. There were two girls sitting next to each other in the bar that I was thinking of opening,but I never did it because of how long I waited and I exchanged a glance or two already with each girl so I felt it would be too awkward. Some asian girl comes next to me to talk to this brown guy and I try to get her attention and I even nudge her elbow a bit,but she moves it away to ignore me. I just decide fuck it i'm wasting my time and leave. I see girls out on the street and one of them in a red dress really caught my eye,but she's taking pictures with her friends and I don't know how little old me can just come right in. In the subway I tell this cute asian lady in a dress walking behind me I think she looks very cute and she says thank you and to have a good night. I thought of trying to persist,but I leave it alone and don't bother I assume talking to her won't lead to anything.

Need to go on friday and saturday nights when it's busy and I need to go when it's late past 11 the earliest. If I go out at 9:30 or 10 there's gonna barely be any action and i'm just gonna go wtf is the point. Guess I shouldn't be so afraid to get blownout in ng. I think that's what I was instinctively trying to do which is why I didn't open many girls. The 2nd bad with the country music band playing had an abundance of cute hot girls,but I didn't give myself permission to talk to them just cuz they were talking to another dude or their girlfriends.
 

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Did daygame today and saw a lot of hbs downtown today. Tbh I should be commuting downtown more to do daygame instead of being lazy and only doing dg in the neighborhoods within walking distance where I live. My spanish isn't developed enough to properly game dominican women so it's smarter for me to hit on the white hotties downtown and boy there are so many.

Approach 1 Came out the eye dr and saw a babe in leggings walking and I thought whoo nice ass. Felt some anxiety,but I thought fuck it I gotta train and practice regardless. I didn't see her face too well,but she was cute enough.
I walked up beside her as she was walking and said "hey excuse me" she turned took off her airpod and said yes.
"Are you talking on the phone rn?"
"No i'm not. "
"I saw you and I wanted to say hi I thought you were kinda hot."
"oh thank you!" she smiles
"Are you going for a jog around here?"
"Yeah i'm actually taking a walk"
"Oh ok...do you live in this area?
"Yeah I do... I actually live a few blocks in that direction"
"oh ok... I just came from the eye doctor nearby. I came all the way from xyz so it was pretty far. "
"Oh ok"
"Yeah this a pretty nice area though don't you think?"
"Yeah I do! It's very nice"
"Btw i'm starboy"extend my hand
"Hi i'm kathleen" she shakes what she can with her left hand while holding her iphone.
"So what are you doing after?" maybe not the question to ask it may have triggered her to eject.
"Hey so... i'm actually seeing someone right now,but I realllyyy appreciate the compliment" she says while smiling
"Oh ok sure no problem." We reach the end of the corner.
"Bye have a good day!" she says and I reiterate the same.
First approach of the day and I didn't even meditate or workout before.

Approach 2
I see some redhead girl in stockings or pantyhose being approached by some homeless bum while sitting in a park bench doing hw. He tries to get close and touch her and I hear her say fuck off and he goes away. I think of approaching opening based on what I saw.
I walk over and say
"excuse me I was curious...what did that crackhead want"
"Oh idk i'm not sure"
"I think it's crazy how some guys will just go up to random girls sitting in the park bench and bother them like that" She smiles and goes.
"Kinda like how you are right now?"
I smile and respond "No,but you see the difference is i'm respectful and understand boundaries".
"What's your name"
"I'm starboy'
"Do you go to school around here are you a student at nyu or tcu"
I think of how to respond while looking away and say "well i'm actually not a student anymore I finished around two years ago"
"Oh ok"
"What about you what's your name?"
She goes hmmm and shakes her head smiling.
I try to playfully persist "Ah comeone your parents gave you a name surely" she shakes her head. " So you don't know your own name?" She goes nope. I say that's ok and bid her farewell. Find it weird that she was willing to ask me my name,but wouldn't give out hers. Maybe my body language wasn't solid enough. Also I was standing and maybe sitting down would've put her at ease.

Idk if this would count as an approach I didn't consider it an approach even though I was a bit apprehensive and nervous ,but I open this girl inside a panera bread and ask her about the leaf tattoo on her bicep. She explains it had something to do with her dad. After that I didn't know what to say so I stopped. Her friend got back to her and they moved away from me presumably because she felt uneasy around me and didn't want me to talk to her any further.

Approach 3 I try to open this nice looking blonde with shades on the corner of the street while we're parallel. "Hey excuse me" She looks up at me. "I wanted to say I think you look very nice" She smiles or chuckles and instead of waiting to cross the street in front of us she crosses the street to our left. In my mind I thought fuck this bitch.Normally I don't get this salty,but I guess the lows and rejections were just taking a toll on me.

Approach 4 I saw this hot asian girl in a lime sundress and she had a nice strut to her. I went up to her said she had a nice style. She said thanks. Asked what she was up to she said shopping. I guessed zara and she said close to there. I introduced myself and she said her name,but I couldn't make out her name cuz of how low she was speaking. Then she just said she had a bf. Maybe a copout? She said she appreciated it and I wished her well.

Approach 5 I saw this hot blonde in pinkish leggings and a tank top pass by me and I thought I lost my opportunity,but I told myself fuck it imma go and talk to her. I jog up a bit get ahead of her,turn to her say excuse me and I halt and she actually stops and she stumbles a bit in the process.
"Hey excuse me.... I just wanted to stop and say hi I thought you werrrre were really attractive" I looked down at her body stumbled my words a little bit cuz I wasn't sure how I would word my compliment if I would say she's hot/sexy/cute.
"Aww thank you!"
"Yeah"
"I live with my bf,but.."
"oh you have a bf?"
"Yeah"
"Oh like a happy bf I assume?" she nods her head
"Oh ok well that's ok"
"Thank you though,it was nice to meet you!"
"Yeah I just wanted to pay you a compliment"
This really helped boost my mood and helped me feel better by how sweet she was and being hot helped.

Approach 6 I try to stop a girl after walking behind her in a park for a while. Near the corner of the block I get near her I get her attention she stops to listen to me,turns her airpod vol down,but in the middle of my opener she walks off. Didn't affect me too hard I only really liked her lower half and not her face that much.

Approach 7 This blonde woman in some leggings and a gym sleeveless top walks up. I open her walking alongside her I tell her she looks nice. Then I ask her if she came from the gym she says sort of. I inquire further and find out she's a private personal trainer. We're headed to the same direction up north she's headed to the train terminal and i'm headed to my kickboxing class. we talk for about 12 minutes. She inquires about me and asks questions about myself. We talk about a bunch of things like work,the city,pressure on people in this day and age to married etc. I might not have flirted very much in the conversation,but at the very least she was invested. She lives upstate away from the city so not the best logistics,but no kids,husband and has her own place and car so she is an independent woman. I walk by the boxing place without realizing it and inform her. This is when I close her.
"Oh L I actually walked past the place"
"Oh no you're not gonna be late are you?
"No my thing is at 6 actually"
"Ok it was nice meeting you"
"It was nice meeting you too. Before you go we should grab coffee sometime"
"I mean if you want... we could do that you know i'm 40" she laughs in suprise.
"No that's fine it doesn't bother me. To me age is just a number"
"Yeah I mean...erh uh ok we could but... yes take my number (she stumbles her words while laughing probably suprised a younger guy asked her for coffee)As i'm taking out my phone I tell her
"You know I work in a retail environment i'm actually around a lot of younger girls and tbh I find them to be naive and immature.
"Yeah that's funny it makes me laugh" she laughs some more.
She tells me her number.
"So what's your work schedule like?"
"Usually wednesdays and fridays i'm in the city,it depends tho and the other days I work virtually from home.
"Ok alright sounds good we'll set something up sometime"
"Yeah we'll text,we'll talk"
"It was nice meeting you"
"Yeah it was nice meeting you too"
I try to give her a bye hug,but she pulls away and says sorry cuz she's sweaty.
This was the first time I actually asked for a woman's work schedule after getting her # while closing instead of not knowing at all.

Today was such a polarizing outing for me. I would have a good approach,then a not so good one,and then another good approach and then another blowout. But I was able to stuck with it. Moving forward I need to handle my emotions better. That will by far be the biggest determinant to whether I burnout or not.
 
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Did daygame today and saw a lot of hbs downtown today. Tbh I should be commuting downtown more to do daygame instead of being lazy and only doing dg in the neighborhoods within walking distance where I live. My spanish isn't developed enough to properly game dominican women so it's smarter for me to hit on the white hotties downtown and boy there are so many.

Approach 1 Came out the eye dr and saw a babe in leggings walking and I thought whoo nice ass. Felt some anxiety,but I thought fuck it I gotta train and practice regardless. I didn't see her face too well,but she was cute enough.
I walked up beside her as she was walking and said "hey excuse me" she turned took off her airpod and said yes.
"Are you talking on the phone rn?"
"No i'm not. "
"I saw you and I wanted to say hi I thought you were kinda hot."
"oh thank you!" she smiles
"Are you going for a jog around here?"
"Yeah i'm actually taking a walk"
"Oh ok...do you live in this area?
"Yeah I do... I actually live a few blocks in that direction"
"oh ok... I just came from the eye doctor nearby. I came all the way from xyz so it was pretty far. "
"Oh ok"
"Yeah this a pretty nice area though don't you think?"
"Yeah I do! It's very nice"
"Btw i'm starboy"extend my hand
"Hi i'm kathleen" she shakes what she can with her left hand while holding her iphone.
"So what are you doing after?" maybe not the question to ask it may have triggered her to eject.
"Hey so... i'm actually seeing someone right now,but I realllyyy appreciate the compliment" she says while smiling
"Oh ok sure no problem." We reach the end of the corner.
"Bye have a good day!" she says and I reiterate the same.
First approach of the day and I didn't even meditate or workout before.

Approach 2
I see some redhead girl in stockings or pantyhose being approached by some homeless bum while sitting in a park bench doing hw. He tries to get close and touch her and I hear her say fuck off and he goes away. I think of approaching opening based on what I saw.
I walk over and say
"excuse me what did that crackhead want"
"Oh idk i'm not sure"
"I think it's crazy how some guys will just go up to random girls sitting in the park bench and bother them like that" She smiles and goes.
"Kinda like how you are right now?"
I smile and respond "No,but you see the difference is i'm respectful and understand boundaries".
"What's your name"
"I'm starboy'
"Do you go to school around here are you a student at nyu or tcu"
I think of how to respond while looking away and say "well i'm actually not a student anymore I finished around two years ago"
"Oh ok"
"What about you what's your name?"
She goes hmmm and shakes her head smiling.
I try to playfully persist "Ah comeone your parents gave you a name surely" she shakes her head. " So you don't know your own name?" She goes nope. I say that's ok and bid her farewell. Find it weird that she was willing to ask me my name,but wouldn't give out hers. Maybe my body language wasn't solid enough. Also I was standing and maybe sitting down would've put her at ease.

Idk if this would count as an approach I didn't consider it an approach even though I was a bit apprehensive and nervous ,but I open this girl inside a panera bread and ask her about the leaf tattoo on her bicep. She explains it had something to do with her dad. After that I didn't know what to say so I stopped. Her friend got back to her and they moved away from me presumably because she felt uneasy around me and didn't want me to talk to her any further.

Approach 3 I try to open this nice looking blonde with shades on the corner of the street while we're parallel. "Hey excuse me" She looks up at me. "I wanted to say I think you look very nice" She smiles or chuckles and instead of waiting to cross the street in front of us she crosses the street to our left. In my mind I thought fuck this bitch.Normally I don't get this salty,but I guess the lows and rejections were just taking a toll on me.

Approach 4 I saw this hot asian girl in a lime sundress and she had a nice strut to her. I went up to her said she had a nice style. She said thanks. Asked what she was up to she said shopping. I guessed zara and she said close to there. I introduced myself and she said her name,but I couldn't make out her name cuz of how low she was speaking. Then she just said she had a bf. Maybe a copout? She said she appreciated it and I wished her well.

Approach 5 I saw this hot blonde in pinkish leggings and a tank top pass by me and I thought I lost my opportunity,but I told myself fuck it imma go and talk to her. I jog up a bit get ahead of her,turn to her say excuse me and I halt and she actually stops and she stumbles a bit in the process.
"Hey excuse me.... I just wanted to stop and say hi I thought you werrrre were really attractive" I looked down at her body stumbled my words a little bit cuz I wasn't sure how I would word my compliment if I would say she's hot/sexy/cute.
"Aww thank you!"
"Yeah"
"I live with my bf,but.."
"oh you have a bf?"
"Yeah"
"Oh like a happy bf I assume?" she nods her head
"Oh ok well that's ok"
"Thank you though,it was nice to meet you!"
"Yeah I just wanted to pay you a compliment"
This really helped boost my mood and helped me feel better by how sweet she was and being hot helped.

Approach 6 I try to stop a girl after walking behind her in a park for a while. Near the corner of the block I get near her I get her attention she stops to listen to me,turns her airpod vol down,but in the middle of my opener she walks off. Didn't affect me too hard I only really liked her lower half and not her face that much.

Approach 7 This blonde woman in some leggings and a gym sleeveless top walks up. I open her walking alongside her I tell her she looks nice. Then I ask her if she came from the gym she says sort of. I inquire further and find out she's a private personal trainer. We're headed to the same direction up north she's headed to the train terminal and i'm headed to my kickboxing class. we talk for about 12 minutes. She inquires about me and asks questions about myself. We talk about a bunch of things like work,the city,pressure on people in this day and age to married etc. I might not have flirted very much in the conversation,but at the very least she was invested. She lives upstate away from the city so not the best logistics,but no kids,husband and has her own place and car so she is an independent woman. I walk by the boxing place without realizing it and inform her. This is when I close her.
"Oh L I actually walked past the place"
"Oh no you're not gonna be late are you?
"No my thing is at 6 actually"
"Ok it was nice meeting you"
"It was nice meeting you too. Before you go we should grab coffee sometime"
"I mean if you want... we could do that you know i'm 40" she laughs in suprise.
"No that's fine it doesn't bother me. To me age is just a number"
"Yeah I mean...erh uh ok we could but... yes take my number (she stumbles her words while laughing probably suprised a younger guy asked her for coffee)As i'm taking out my phone I tell her
"You know I work in a retail environment i'm actually around a lot of younger girls and tbh I find them to be naive and immature.
"Yeah that's funny it makes me laugh" she laughs some more.
She tells me her number.
"So what's your work schedule like?"
"Usually wednesdays and fridays i'm in the city,it depends tho and the other days I work virtually from home.
"Ok alright sounds good we'll set something up sometime"
"Yeah we'll text,we'll talk"
"It was nice meeting you"
"Yeah it was nice meeting you too"
I try to give her a bye hug,but she pulls away and says sorry cuz she's sweaty.
This was the first time I actually asked for a woman's work schedule after getting her # while closing instead of not knowing at all.

Today was such a polarizing outing for me. I would have a good approach,then a not so good one,and then another good approach and then another blowout. But I was able to stuck with it. Moving forward I need to handle my emotions better. That will by far be the biggest determinant to whether I burnout or not.
Bro you have no structure notice how your situational openers open better...if you are going direct I would not use excuse me, I would use hey,! I am on a way to meet my friends or Whatever, This is kind of random but you seem attractive wanted to find out if your looks match your personality.... so at least you quality from opener if direct.... I am starboy milk the intro by holding the hand of possible, if she doesn't give you name what is your name again, let her hand go first, then what are you up to? Now fluff and find out any situational question about boyfriend are you waiting on the park for your boyfriend, If she says no boyfriend is game on.. then say really, you don't have a boyfriend and then flirt don't open close so fast, flirt a bit...use a bit more structure learn from approaches try to improve....
 

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Bro you have no structure notice how your situational openers open better...if you are going direct I would not use excuse me, I would use hey,! I am on a way to meet my friends or Whatever, This is kind of random but you seem attractive wanted to find out if your looks match your personality.... so at least you quality from opener if direct.... I am starboy milk the intro by holding the hand of possible, if she doesn't give you name what is your name again, let her hand go first, then what are you up to? Now fluff and find out any situational question about boyfriend are you waiting on the park for your boyfriend, If she says no boyfriend is game on.. then say really, you don't have a boyfriend and then flirt don't open close so fast, flirt a bit...use a bit more structure learn from approaches try to improve....
Hey @Skills thanks for leaving a comment. I only really used one situational opener and that's cuz I found an easy way to open that was practically handed to me. It's hard for me to come up with them on the fly in the street. A lot of my approaches are on the sidewalk when people are walking,in a rush to get somewhere so opening situationally while walking majority of the time or to street stop a girl doesn't really make much sense.

I only say excuse me to get their attention if they're distracted and to look up from their phone in my direction. I've tried saying hi or hey while walking with women on the sidewalk at times and they have no idea i'm trying to speak to them and I end up having to repeat myself and then she says what and start off on the wrong foot. Ideally I would say hi or hey,but I adjust and calibrate depending.

Yeah I don't have much structure. Rn the only thing I can do consistently is opener then cold read or some observation. Flirting is lacking for me with girls I approach other than when I open and close cuz it's never been a natural or easy thing for me.
 

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Hey @Skills thanks for leaving a comment. I only really used one situational opener and that's cuz I found an easy way to open that was practically handed to me. It's hard for me to come up with them on the fly in the street. A lot of my approaches are on the sidewalk when people are walking,in a rush to get somewhere so opening situationally while walking majority of the time or to street stop a girl doesn't really make much sense.

I only say excuse me to get their attention if they're distracted and to look up from their phone in my direction. I've tried saying hi or hey while walking with women on the sidewalk at times and they have no idea i'm trying to speak to them and I end up having to repeat myself and then she says what and start off on the wrong foot. Ideally I would say hi or hey,but I adjust and calibrate depending.

Yeah I don't have much structure. Rn the only thing I can do consistently is opener then cold read or some observation. Flirting is lacking for me with girls I approach other than when I open and close cuz it's never been a natural or easy thing for me.
The reason I personally don't like excuse me is cause the salesman, evangelist vibe... the reason why hey is not working for you cause you are not being loud commanding ceo hey!
 

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Today was a nice warm day in the 70s. I knew I had to go out today because the nice weather in nyc is not gonna last. The temperature will drop and the babes will cover up more so I didn't want to waste a nice day today. My body was sore from working out my legs the day before so I took a short nap in the noon and when I woke up it was 1 and I was terrified of spending another day not taking action so I immediately get dressed to leave the house. I meditate a bit to relax myself and then leave.

As i'm walking I see some women whom I like,but hesitated a few times. AA creeped up since it's been two weeks since I had approached anyone. Trying too hard to do everything correctly and perfectly.

Approach 1
I see this cute blonde cougar showing her nice cleavage near the edge of the sidewalk and decided i'll approach her solely warmup and knockoff some rust. I say excuse me and tell her I think she looks nice,but she's says spanish only or something and walked off when the light crossed green. I didn't want to assume she was spanish if I had known I would've opened her in spanish to start,but oh well that helped me get out my head a bit.

I get on a train downtown and get off this stop next to this university entrance. I see people coming out of this entrance and they're not wearing masks so I decided to check inside and i'm astounded that i'm able to walk through the gate even with covid. I've walked by so many times thinking only students were allowed here. Good area for future outings.

Approach 2
Saw a girl in jogging gear across the street.
I said hi she was friendly off the bat. Talked about the university nearby i said it must be weird to go to school in covid she said it waan't so bad. She came from a jog and said she was going to do hw. got to the end of the block and she said i'm going this way straight ahead to eject and I didn't want to keep following her after crossing the street so I kinda scramble to close. She said she likes talking to people or something and said I had a great spirit lol. I say we should exchange numbers and meet up another time and she makes up something like i'm getting rid of my phone and I know she's being cheeky and not interested so I just smile it off and say bye. Weird quirky girl,but was cool talking.

Approach 3
Next to this park I open a girl walking I had to jog up a bit I say excuse me she responds I tell her I think she's cute she laughs and goes thanks. Ask if she's taking a walk too she says she's also going to meet a friend. Then I inquire if she's a student nearby and she says her bf goes to the school. So after I hear that I just talk with her and practice some teasing and joking while we walk the end of this long sidewalk next to this park and then I tell her to have a good day.

Approach 4
I see his hottie from across the street with long straight hair so I cross to catch up and walk up next to her.

"hey excuse me " she looks a bit shocked or maybe even worried at first. "I wanted to say.. you have veryy nice hair. Then she smiles and goes "thanks I appreciate it."
"Yeah it's straight and looks silky smooth. Whoever your hairdress is does a good job hope you tip them well"
"Are you going for a walk too?"
"No i'm actually going to work."
"Oh what do you do for work?"
"Uh...I'm a hostess." she says after thinking about it
"Oh ok. I wanted to introduce myself i'm star"
"Hey nice to meet you."she says a bit awkwardly without sharing her name
"What about you... what's your name?"
She smiles a bit and says sorry i'm kind of in a rush.
"Yeah no problem i'm not gonna get in your way. Can't be late to work otherwise your boss will get on you."
She takes out her headphones and starts to untangle them. Indication she wasn't that interested. I try to persist a bit.
"So if you're a hostess then you probably had to get vaccinated right?"
"Yeah I did" she starts to pay a bit more attention .
"You thought i'll get vaccinated just so that I can keep my job right?"
"Yeah... I didn't want to get vaccinated"
"But they kinda forced you to... they didn't give you much of a choice"
"Yeah that's so messed up"
"Yeah in states like florida or texas they don't have stuff like this. You have some freedom."
"In the red states"
"Yeah and we're a blue state. Which sucks cuz blue is my favorite color!" I joke.
Get to the end of the street and she turns to cross almost ejects,but I say
"hey before you go... let's exchange #s and meet up sometime later." I throw a parting shot even if it was kind of weak just so that I can tell myself I actually tried and didn't reject myself. Suprisingly she goes ok and then asks for my number.
"You're star right?"
"Yeah.. I still don't know your name tho"
"Helen"
"Helen? Like Helen of Troy? Do people joke like that to you"
She laughs and goes yeah.
She took my # down and I didn't really push to get hers. She reads my number outloud to me I confirm it's correct and I tell her to text me and we'll talk. Then she walks off.
I know it won't matter if she took my number down I could tell she wasn't really that interested and she won't text me later,but fuck it I gave it my best shot.

Approach 5
After eating some tacos in a bus stop I see this hot spanish looking lady walk nearby. After I throwout my food I exchange eye contact with her a bit. Then I stop her and open her in spanish at first to screen her linguistics
"Perdonme...Te hablas ingles tambien?"
"Yeah I know some" sounded like she spoke it normally lol.
"I wanted to say... I think you're attractive."
"Oh thank you! I really appreciate it." She reacted very positively to my suprise so I engage more.
"Do you live in the area too?"
"No I actually work here"
"Oh ok" Then some guy from a motorscooter calls her name and she says bye nice to meet you and they hug and are very affectionate with each other. Cockblocked by bf after opening and hooking a girl just my kinda luck. This guy is passionately kissing his gf and i'm digging through the trash to see if I threw out a pack of gum I just bought from the deli lol. That moment right there felt like the universe was sticking it to me.

I tried not to focus too hard on that even though my ego wanted to cling to that. I went to this park closeby and saw some girls I could've spoken too,but I hesitated on some and was too in my head. Tried my best to ease myself and stay present.

Approach 6
I see this cute blonde checking out this little garden in the park holding a starbucks cup. I walk up to her from behind she sees my shadow and turns and she may have smiled a bit. I ask if there's a starbucks nearby and she says she has no idea. I look confused and say,but you have a starbucks drink. She chuckles and says she brought it all the way here from another starbucks. She's almost walking away ,but I persist a bit and ask her if she comes to this park often she says no it's her 2nd time. Then I think she says one sec i'm going to get my stuff. Wasn't sure what that meant,but I see she moved near this other lady to pick something up and then I saw a 3rd girl walk up to them later. I didn't feel like I had green lights to keep trying to talk to her and I didn't really want have to engage with her friend(s) either. I thought i'd feel like a dweeb so I just move on and walk by them. She might've looked at me as I walked by maybe being open to talking more possibly i'm not sure.

I could've done some more approaches,but hit my minimum of 5 approaches and didn't feel in the mood to do more so I thought fuck it. Got some momentum back,building up that tolerance again. I have enough experience accumulated that I don't have to relearn game and start completely over. My social instincts kick in. I really hope my motivation for daygame won't drop when the weather is colder.
 

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Was nice and warm today so I thought i'm definetly going out. I decided to leave at noon right after eating breakfast instead of going to the gym first,eating lunch and then going to sarge. The sunsets at 4:42 so I wanted to give myself extra time. I meditate before I leave the house and get dressed and leave.

When I got off the train AA came up because I haven't been practicing consistently and I let at least 3 approachable girls pass by me who I thought were sufficiently attractive. I would've had to front stop them which is difficult and intimidating for me to do. I don't have the vocal assertiveness and confidence to pull that off yet.

Approach 1
I saw some cute girl who was dressed nice cross the street and turn the corner so I thought I could go talk to her walking alongside her. I was a bit nervous and rusty,but I just let go and told her I thought she was cute and she smiled and went thanks. She said she knew it's not easy to do that and said it takes guts. First time I think a woman verbally acknowledged the difficulty of approaching to me. I introduce myself,she reciprocates and shakes my hand and we have some conversation which wasn't super smooth by me,but she was friendly and open so I stuck in there . She had asked me what I was up to and I might have fumbled the bag by I saying I was shopping and walking around and took a train from uptown to check out the area. Prematurely I worry a lot about having to come up with an explanation of what i'm doing in a area when i'm out looking for girls to talk to. I should've given a simple response or answer and only elaborate if she asks. Get to the end of the block and I close right as she's about to leave and I ask if she's single she says no so I say no problem and wish her a good day and she extends her hand again and tells me it was nice to meet me.
Approach 2
See this lady wearing a coat while it's hot outside and comment she must be burning. She goes yeah and we chit chat for a little bit and then she tells me to have a good day so I eject.
Approach 3
This cute white girl passes by me and I thought fuck I lost my opportunity,but I turn and see that she stops for a bit to look at her phone. I was worried it would look unnatural,but I thought fuck it and went and said hi. Told her I wanted to say hello I thought she was cute and she smiled for a bit and said thanks. Then she said she's not seeing anybody right now so I thought no problem and let it be. I was subcommunicating timid energy so she picked up on that and made up an excuse,but I didn't care. After that I thought pickup is just a game it's nothing to be so upset about.
Approach 4
Opened some asian lady in a blue dress and told her she looks nice. She said thanks but she's married. I said no problem and hope her marriage goes well. Then afterwards I just talked about the weather with her and how nice it is and she was engaged. I talked for the sake of being social and didn't feel pressure because the outcome didn't matter at that point.
Approach 5
I see a blonde girl leaving the park with what looks like a bulldog so I stop and inquire about her dog. She describes her dog and I make some observations and statements. I introduce myself to her and she does the same. I try to get to know more about her,but she said she's in a rush because she has a appointment for herself. She says she's married so I let her go.
Approach 6
This girl I see from afar is walking her dog and she maybe gives me a ioi when she looks back at me. Some dude with his dog comes up to her and they look like they know each other and maybe bf and gf. Guy walks down this hill with his dog and the girl walks towards me with her dog and her dog is trying to sniff my shoes and she says sorry and I say it's ok and ask to pet her dog. She eageely says yeah sure thanks for asking. Her dog never drags her,but wanted to come to me and says I must have good dog vibes and I say i'm a dog lover. I should've asked if she and the guy were walking their dogs together and find out their relationship status since she seemed open to me.

Hit my 5 approach goal and I was satisfied with my social attempts for the day. At the very least take baby steps. No need to put immense pressure on myself just have fun approaching girls and being social. Pickup is a game at the end of the day and needing or expecting specific outcomes or results is how you give up when you're struggling to obtain it.
 

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Early in the morning I went to this hr office to submit some documents. There was a lot of confusion regarding the onboarding process and I was feeling very flustered. I was sitting in this bench and was overdressed in a jacket since the sun came out and it got very warm. I took my jacket off,drank my coffee and tried to ease up. Then I see this spanish hottie in a bun,wearing a champion hoodie,white sweatpants and a fat ass to top it off.

Idk what came over me,but I think my primal instincts just kicked in and I walked after her and decided I wanted to open her even though part of me thought she wouldn't hook. This guy walks pasts her and turns around to check her ass out and I say to him it's fine right and the dude says that shit is nice lol.

She's not on the phone from what I deduced and she was holding a canteen so I figure I could stop her. First I walk up alongside her look over and screen for her linguistics. She speaks a little english so I tell her in spanish that I wanted to say she looks nice/attractive. She smiles and says gracias and I had a feeling she was open. At the end of that residential block I stop and ask her if she has a minute to talk and she stops and asks for what. I ask for her name and I volunteer mine. She says L. I ask if she's taking a walk and she says she's going to the gym. Talk about gyms very briefly and I ask her if she lives in the area. I tell her i'm not from here and I was here for a job. I ask her what she does for work and I didn't really understand. She asks me where i'm from and I tell her my parents origins. She's suprised because of how much spanish I knew. I tried to tell her I look dominican and looking back I realized I ended up saying I wake up dominican (meant to say yo parezco,but I said despierto facepalm). She was laughing hard from that so it worked out. I wasn't sure what else to say so I ask if she's single. She smiled and said yes. I ask if she wants to have food/drinks sometime and she said sometime and I assured her not now. First she asked me if I had instagram I told her no I don't. I think she asked me if I had a gf and I said right now no and she said por que in a curious manner. I said something like I haven't met the right person. I ask her the same and she says she hasn't found a good/right guy and she prefers to be alone. I relate to her and tell her it's hard to meet the right person,but maybe me and her would get along. I take her # down and tell her i'll text her later. I text her Hi L have fun at the gym-star and she responds shortly after gracias take care. Maybe good sign.

Looking back there were things I could've done better like making more eye contact, speaking with more sexual intent and some touch. It was my 1st approach of the day and I didn't expect it to stretch that far. It was a good effort regardless.
 
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So i'm in Miami for a little less than a week for leisure and to game. Got to meet up with some guys who did pickup that i've talked to online. I also got to meet up with Vision cool dude just pretty intense guy lol. I hadn't had a real approach in months since my last journal entry honestly. I tried talking to girls at the mall the week prior,but it was barely anything.The cold weather,large # of girls wearing masks made it difficult and just sapped me of desire to practice. Figure it would be best to take a break from the cold and meet girls somewhere nice and warm.

Met up with the wings and started walking around talking to girls. We'd just break off the group if we see a girl we liked. The guys were doing a lot more than me I was being hesistant and had a bunch of AA from taking so much time off and was really in my head. I ended up opening a few girls to start,but it was pretty clumsy. Was worried about followup and thinking too much instead of just being present. My delivery and tonality was very soft and timid. We relocated to the beach to talk to some girls there. There was this thick german girl with big fake tits and tattoos everywhere taking pictures of this girl. I say some joke to pattern interupt like hey are you a professional photographer! She was like no its for ig and say oh ok and tell her tattoos look badass. I was chatting with her,my wing chats up her friend and intially she didn't seem that into it,but later on we were vibing better and connected on topics like traveling. She wanted to go back to her hostel cuz she was cold and sunburned and I tried to suggest a meetup later and she said maybe. She wanted to exchange igs,but I didn't have one and she didn't really want to exchange #s. She and her friend basically told me to go away and it caught me off guard cuz they kind of did it in a soft manner. That sort of fucked with me a bit.

I link up with Vision and introduce him to the other pickup guys that I met today. The guys start opening girls like machines and even hooked some. I was a bit jealous honestly. Especially since they went on some instadates and they opened the girls that looked really good and I was thinking about approaching. In the back of my mind I even hoped they failed just so I wouldn't feel so bad about myself.

We went back to lincoln road when it got darker and it was kinda transitioning to hybrid nightgame. I was in my head a lot and was in a bad state. Had low momentum and made it difficult to even open. A few I tried the girls ignored me cuz I wasn't calibrated or smooth. The guys were going to talk to almost whomever they wanted to. I was backing out of a lot of girls I found attractive. I opened this one canadian girl after almost psyching myself out of it and she hooked pretty well and we got into a good conversation. She was a solo traveler as well. I felt we had a good vibe going and logistically things were good too she had a hotel room closeby and was just going to her room to eat and talk with her friends on facetime. I tried to suggest we grab drinks at her hotel cuz she leaves tommorow,but she wasn't really down for that. I feel like if I had some better verbals maybe she would've been more interested,but idk hard to say. This interaction did make me feel better. Later on we seperate and i'm so tired from all the walking I did today.

I took some action,but for the amount of time I spent walking throughout the day I don't feel like I did nearly a suitable amount of approaches. My vibe was so off and I was too timid and passive. It almost sounded like I was seeking girls approval and hoping they'd bite. I have to speak more authoritatively and act more decisively. I can't let myself think too much about the best way to open and approach that just hurts me.

I also need to convince myself that i'm deserving of beautiful sexy women. I think on some level I don't. If I don't think i'm good enough then it will bleed into in my behavior and interactions.
 

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Hey man, don't beat yourself up too much about your vibe being off. Reason you're feeling this way is you're in a period of low momentum - if you haven't approached in months that's to be expected. That being said, months since you previously approached is not so good. I think it would be very helpful for you to set yourself a challenge - I'd recommend Chases 4 approaches a day for 30 days challenge. I did that end of 2020 and it helped me so much that a lot of the daygame skills I learnt from it are now locked in it seems, allowing me to do pretty well even when feeling down initially, once I can get past the initial AA that is.

Do the challenge, post your FRs here, and I guarantee you will be a different person coming out of it.
 
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