SargeMaximus Introduction and Newbie Assignment

[SargeMaximus]

Hey guys. Been doing game on and off since 2012. No sex but had CRAZY reactions (the good crazy) back in circa 2012-2016. But since I wasn't getting sex I decided to go my own way. Just sort of started freestyling, going with my gut and started to get sex. Had some HOT girls but mostly fat/unattractive girls. My freestyling method has worked in that this year alone I've slept with more girls than I have my entire life, BUT, the girls are mostly fatties save for 1 hot girl I had earlier in the year who seemed keen to meet again, texting back and forth, sending me pics of her naked body, but then ghosted.

Anyhow, since I want better looking women, I'm back to learn game. I figure I'll start as a newbie and work from there.

Doing the newbie assignment starting at Day 3 since I already know good areas to meet women (having approached 200-300 women in 2012-2016) and I consider my posture quite good.

Eye contact is definitely a thing. I work in sales and find that if you hold eye contact you're less likely to get a sale, but perhaps in seduction it's different. So I'll do the eye contact thiong today and report back.

EDIT: I'd just like to get back to the point I was when I first started. I didn't care what people thought and got HOT girls reacting quite well to me (for example, one time a girl who worked at my gym, fit as FUCK btw, who I had tried to get a number from, RAN to meet me from across the gym when she saw I had come in. She had a HUGE smile on her face and said "HI!" but I ignored her because she rejected the number close a few days prior. Or another example is a girl who was working at a mall was talking to me and I got her so hooked that weeks later, at a different mall across town (she wasn't working there) she recognized me and ran from several feet away to say "YOU! DO YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID TO ME!?!?" at which point I didn't know how to respond and just lost her)

Anyhow, game is odd in that it puts you in these kind of ruts that it seems socially retarded to jump out of. And I must admit my biggest problem lately is the social calibration issue. I am so terrified of making a faux pas that I walk on eggshells by not doing any approaches. As I learned game I started to get better but once the social consequences reality reared it's ugly head, I became a pussy and hid under a rock.

 

[Space]

Welcome to the forum!

It's interesting that you've found this old mini course buried somewhere here no one else is doing but you. Confused where to start with Girls Chase? I was too. Apparently, it just seems confusing but thankfully Chase himself made it crystal clear in this odd post that you probably should start with the 7-day Mini Course.

Todd V and GC's Denton claims the game evolves constantly. So I'd be curious too when the Mini Course was put together as the Newbie Assignment is pretty old judging by its publication date.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Welcome to the forum!

It's interesting that you've found this old mini course buried somewhere here no one else is doing but you. Confused where to start with Girls Chase? I was too. Apparently, it just seems confusing but thankfully Chase himself made it crystal clear in this odd post that you probably should start with the 7-day Mini Course.

Todd V and GC's Denton claims the game evolves constantly. So I'd be curious too when the Mini Course was put together as the Newbie Assignment is pretty old judging by its publication date.

Just because no one else is doing it doesn't mean a thing to me. Thanks for the input tho. And thanks for reminding me how necessary my new signature is

 

[SargeMaximus]

Ok went out and tried the exercise. Most people didn't make EC, when some did it was unnerving but I was able to do it. Most looked away. A few held EC till we passed each other. I didn't follow the EC because I think that's too aggressive/challenging.

Had an online interaction with a girl. She was complaining all the guys just wanted hookups. I said "on the flip side, all the women just want relationships" and she was like "how horrible!" and I said "it is actually, here I thought we were in 2019 but people acting like it's 1950" and she said "whether it be monogamous or non, I think judging people by their preferences is 1950" I just blocked her.

I have no idea how to deal with that kind of crap and I honestly lose all attraction for women like that anyhow.

One of my main sticking points is shit tests because I just get mad and/or lose interest in the girl. OR, on the flip side, I pass the shit test and it's just followed by another and eventually the tediousness of it gets me and I lose all interest yet again.

I'm curious how you guys deal with the shit test thing. It's always bothered me and I prefer to maneuver around them than pass them, but I know that tendency is keeping me from the hot girls, so I'm open to advice on how to not get turned off by women who throw shit tests or how to deal with shit tests in a way that makes me feel good instead of deflated. Even back when I was hardcore PUA in 2012-2016 if I ever passed a shit test I just lost all interest in the girl because it felt like a fake interaction at that point.

 

[SargeMaximus]

How do you make those people feel when you do those things together? Are you a know it all? do you monopolize the conversation? Do you offer unsolicited advice?

/\ This.

Guys I have no problem getting advice on things I have ASKED about, just don't want this to be a free-for-all advice giving KJ circle jerk.

Anyways, tomorrow I start Day 4. I have to say "Hi" to 6 attractive women. Should be simple but challenging. Haven't approached women for months.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Ok, so I did the Day 4 challenge: "Say 'Hi' to 6 attractive women"

In this case, attractive means girls I would like to have sex with even if they may be "ugly" but definitely higher quality looks-wise than what I currently get (with a few exceptions for the odd 8-9 here and there I mostly get 6-7.5's)

ANYhow, it was quite easy. I felt some nervousness but was able to do it. As normal, the HOTTEST girls were very nice and smiled when they said hi back. I've always noticed that the hotter the girl the better my approach seems to be received BUT that doesn't mean I know how to go from "hi" to sex. This is why I am in game.

So anyhow, that was fun. Makes me feel younger. It's crazy I started this journey when I was 24 and am now 31. Yikes. Definitely puts things in perspective.

Tomorrow I have to approach 6 women and say "Hi, how's your day going?" Again, it should be easy enough. We'll see how things go.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Ugh. This one was HARD.

On top of nervousness I also had watering eyes so it must have looked like I was crying when talking to these women. And let me tell you the cold emotionless stare from some of them was not pleasant to endure.

Out of the 6:

- 2 engaged me in convo (simple chit chat, where are you from, etc. Didn't go anywhere because I have no FUCKING idea what to say or even what the point of conversation is. Definitely a major sticking point. I ended both the convos because I didn't know what to say and it was boring and yeah. Need a solution to THIS specifically! This is the EXACT same issue I had when I first started after I got over the initial excitement of talking to hot girls. Back then., it was new and novelty so the excitement gave me a social boost. Now, because I have nothing to say, it's mundane and I've definitely hit a glass ceiling because I lack the understanding of how a good seduction is supposed to go. I've watched all kinds of videos on youtube and it doesn't make sense to me. I could say verbatim the lines the guys say but what's the point? I'd be a robot at that point. I want to UNDERSTAND game so I have the creativity and spontaneity I had when I first started.)

- 2 Ignored me outright when I said "Hi". I still count it because if they HAD engaged, I would have followed up with the required "how's your day going?"

- 2 women just smiled and said "good" after I said "how's your day going"

So there it is. A pretty even split. Honestly the biggest issues for me are: nerves, watering eyes, and not knowing what I'm doing or supposed to do. If it weren't for these lines I'd say nothing at all.

Which brings me to tomorrow's exercise: he says take the day off in that I can approach however I want the only rule is I must approach at least 1 girl. So we'll see how it goes. I imagine it'll be shit just like today.

Fuck I hate this. But I gotta do it cause there's no other option. Fml.

 

[SargeMaximus]

So, Day 6. I intended to only do 1 approach. Wasn't feeling it at all, but I gotta say it's getting easier.

First girl I wanted to approach was literally surrounded by people the instant I moved in her direction. Like moths to a flame, it was eerie. Like a subconscious defensive formation. I don't approach girls who are surrounded by people, and she wasn't until I began to walk towards her.

I then missed a few hot girls by not approaching. Changed venues, then did 3. The one was particularly interesting. I approached, said "hi, how's your night going?" she smiled big, said "good thanks" but as I continued the convo (talking about the towels she was buying) she moved away and looked over at me in a weird way. So I just said "okkkk…" and left. I find it odd that she initially seemed very positive and just went 180 degrees. This tells me the verbals sucked. SO, no surprise, the issue is I don't have verbal game. What a surprise *sarcasm*

So yeah, until I fix that I doubt I'll make any progress. I'm getting better at approaching (not feeling so nervous, better BL) but until I can fix my verbals with SOMETHING that actually works, I'm afraid I'm fucked. We'll see.

Tomorrow is Day 7, assignment: Genuine Interest. I'm to read 3 articles and then proceed with the assignment which I will read tomorrow after the articles.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Taking me a bit longer than previously thought. Basically I started reading a new book on pick up that has some good info and I got caught up in it, but then I realized I still wasn't approaching, and I still wasn't approaching because I didn't know what to say. So I'm back to following this structure newbie guide as it seems there is advice on what to say. The next assignment, for example, is about complimenting a girl and these articles tell you how to do that which is what I need. I don't think my mentality needs fixing (aside from the depression and hopeless feelings I get in regards to pick up) but I ALWAYS have had trouble with conversation. Seems I always say something wrong and lose the girl. I also have trouble knowing what to do/say next if I do magically say the right thing.

For example, a few days ago in sales I met a woman at the door who's name was Margarita. And I smirked as I wrote down her name (I took her name for the sales lead) and said "Margarita time!" then she promptly invited me inside the house to look at the ceiling. Now, I know this was an opportunity, but I did not know how to proceed in a tactful manner so it went nowhere.

So those are my issues. Even when girls throw themselves at me, I've never been able to convert. I either do nothing, or say/do the wrong thing and drive them away. The sweet spot eludes me. I hope this will improve with time but most PUA advice seems sorely lacking in that specific department, go figure.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Ok so I've been away for a while. Recent developments:

- Got a FWB/girlfriend (2 months and counting now). Every time we're together we have sex multiple times a day (6 times in one 24-hour period is our current record) and always anywhere from 30 mins to 2 hours long. But she's far from a 10.

My current goals are to get hotter women but I have no idea how to start. I guess I'll go back into the newbie mission although the lack of results doing that demotivates me.

The problem is, I can only seem to get laid doing things MY way, but it's not with HOT girls (my current girl is cute but not HOT) and yet, doing anything other than my own style doesn't seem to work. I was a virgin till 28 despite finding game at 24. I followed the principles and did the work but got nothing till I started doing whatever I felt like. So I'm not sure how to improve and get hotter girls.

 

[Tony D]

Women like the one who ran across the gym, will often change their opinion of you over time. I call it priming. She's had some time to think about you since then, and now you're familiar to her. Once you're familiar, it's a foot in the door of her pussy/heart.

Make sure when women give you green lights you don't punish them for it, out of some sort of rejection based spite. They only know what they feel right now, and if you miss their invitations you may not receive another.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Sarge,

Welcome to the forums man. You're doing a great job so far with the newbie assignment! Give yourself a bit more credit, your supposed to suck at the beginning ;p (well you have experience but first time cold approaching like this... you know what I mean).

I kinda just skimmed this whole thread but your story is awesome man. Lost your virginity at 28 and improving yourself, dude if you commit to going through the learning process of sucking eating shit and making slow improvements you'll be able to enjoy serious fruits of your labor a year or so down the road.

When I first started back in 2013 I was stumbling over my words, nervous wreak, and took me 11 months of consistent approaching steady improving .1% each outing until I started getting success.

You know if you need some training wheels for the conversation stuff watch some good infield or buy Super Seducer for $10 (a good seduction video game learning tool) and just copy what they are saying/asking in their interactions. Study the tapes and then just say literally the same stuff so you have some content to have a convo that lasts longer than 30 seconds.

Once you get used to it then work on adding your own style and changing things up to fit your personality.

Not the greatest of all time but Liam McRae's decent enough to emulate. Oh and Good Looking Loser has some good infield convo to browse and emulate! Here are Good Looking Loser's infield vids

Keep it up man. If you hustle you can get a waayyy better girl than your current chick. And also don't be afraid to get some coaching and get feedback on exactly how to get better.

Cheers,