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Hey dudes!

Check it out. I did some approaches, and I didn't wuss out once!

I only did 3 because I've got some rules.
  1. I'm only approaching girls I actually want to have sex with
  2. I'm only approaching girls on their own
    • I realise this limits my options a bit, but I want to hone my style before I complicate matters by having to keep the friend onside as well.
So it's quality over quantity.
Anyway, on with the story.

The hero: 5ft 6, neatly trimmed beard, fancy designer specs, jeans, red t-shirt (I know about red stuff), 42 yo (looks more like 35 though), navy jacket, grey sneakers, cologne of the day is Dior Savauge EDT (Pretty mainstream I know, but I've got a bottle and need to use it up)

The scene: Overcast Saturday afternoon in Edinburgh (AKA Auld Reekie, and The Athens of the North). It might rain.

Soundtrack: The new Iron Maiden album, Senjutsu (it's okay, very much an album, no Fear of the Dark or The Trooper type standouts, might be a grower), Hellripper (black/speed metal from Scotland, very good), and Evil Invaders (thrash metal from Belgium, also very good).

Girl 1: Iris, very cute wee blonde from Dunfermline, near Edinburgh, just moved to the city recently for college. Young girl, 20ish, wearing all black and a black beret. Looked very cool. Sitting on a park bench, listening to headphones, and writing in a notebook.

I walked past her, thought "hello" and then went over, gestured for her to take off her headphones and sat down and said...

"Hi, I hope you don't mind me saying this, but I saw you there and I thought you looked very cute, so I had come and say hello"

She smiled and immediately proceeded to tell me loads of stuff about herself.

Turns out she’s in a band and was writing songs. She starts telling me about how she’s been reading that all the 70’s rock dudes were paedos and banging underage girls.

I said “oh dear, that doesn’t paint me in a very good light does it?”

Tells me that Jimmy Page hid a 14 yo girl in his closet when the cops turned up once.

I said “well that sounds like the kind of thing you’d do if you know what you’re doing”

Talked about that stuff for a bit. I asked if she’s heard about any of Steven Tyler from Aerosmith’s shenanigans. She had. They are legendary. He’s a very bad man.

She told me she was new to town, asked where I was from, did I live here.

So, conversation was all good, no lull, both of us very relaxed.

It started to rain a little, she said she needed to go in a bit, I said so did I and…

“hey, we should get a drink together sometime” and went to get my phone for her to give me her number.

She said she wasn’t going to give men her number because she had a boyfriend.

I said “oh no, I hate it when that happens” (Jokingly), “well, do you want to really annoy him?”

Another smile.

I asked how long they’d been together.

She replied “just a few months, he’s in the band I’m in. I’m just waiting for him to become a dick”

I said, “well what if I give you my number, when he starts being a dick, you can give me a call”

She liked that but she still didn’t give me ger number.

“Well, nice meeting you Iris, have a good day”

I felt the whole thing went really well, one of my best approaches so far.

Feel that the slightly indirect but direct opener worked well. Thought it builds a little tension to use the “I hope you don’t mind me saying this but…” My thinking is she could think something was wrong initially and when she finds out she’s cute, she’s 1. relived, and 2. pleased. So emotions go from slightly concerned and unsure of what this is all about to quite happy to hear she’s getting a nice compliment.

Not much eye contact as we sat side by side on bench.



Girl 2: Sarah, tall brunette metal chick, hot looking from South Wales (nice accent I thought), walking down the Royal Mile, smoking, wearing all black, skirt, low cut top, and biker jacket (standard metal chick outfit), I saw she had a cool chest tattoo. Conversation took place whilst walking together.



“Hi, I saw you tere and thought you looked really cool. I like your tattoo (and gestured to her chest)

Note: I’ve got 2 go-to conversation topics at the moment - Accents and tattoos - both seem good for getting to know you type questions.

“oh, thanks very much”

Introduced myself, shook hands - notice hand tattoo.

“Wow, that’s pretty cool too. I don’t have any tattoos. I’m far too scared of the pain.

“Well, you’re in the minority then, everyone seems to have them now”

Talked about that for a bit.

Noticed her accent. Asked about it. South Wales. So some chat about

She doesn’t live in Edinburgh and stays about 30 mins away in Fife. She’s just abut to go home now after being for a drink with friends.

Conversation lulled a little bit after that as I realised logistics were working against me.

I suggested we should go for a drink together sometime.

She said “I’m taken”

I said (jokingly) “oh no, this always happened to me. I see a cute girl and she’s taken”

She said “Cute? I’ve not been called cute for a while”

I said “oh yeah, definitely. Anyway, I’ll let you get on back to Fife, nice to meet you”

Thought I spoke a bit too quietly for a busy street and ran out of conversation a bit I thought.

Harder to chat when walking, especially down busy street with other people to negotiate. I’m a guy, so walk and talk multitasking isn’t one of my strengths.

Not any eye contact as walking side by side.



Girl 3: Unknown brunette, slightly shorter than me, very nice figure, great ass in tight jeans.

Street approach. I said “hi, I saw you there and thought you looked cute”

She was immediately uncomfortable, obviously didn’t speak English too well, and said “no.. no”

So Isaid, “okay then, bye”

Obviously foreign - but probably not from Eastern Europe, otherwise, she’d definitely have been into me!

Approach was bad, vibe was off.

2 reasons

  • I had to wait for a bit to approach as she was watching street performer from the edge of a small crowd, so I waited until she moved away before moving in. So nerves. The first 2, I pretty much went straight in
  • She wasn’t as pretty as I’d initially thought. Didn’t fancy her. So that threw me.
Well, we’ve all been there lads, haven’t we? Sometimes it’s not until 9 o’clock in the morning that we realised she’s not very good looking after all.

I have a friend who uses the phrase LFB or ‘low fidelity babe’ to describe this phenomenon.



Feel pretty good about today. Getting more comfortable with direct opening. That’s definitely something I’m trying to work on.

Thought it was a shame about cute blonde, she was very fuckable and I was pretty impressed by her extensive knowledge of 1970’s rock n roll excess, especially for a young girl who couldn’t be much older than 20 if that.

She didn’t seem to think there was anything odd or weird about me, obviously twice her age, sitting down and trying to chat her up, so that was pretty good. I’m not worried about that anymore now. Pretty sure she’d have given me her number of it wasn’t for the boyfriend situation, and I think he’s real because of the details about him and the ‘waiting for him to be a dick’ comment.

Got my 2nd covid vaccination today after all that. So, not sure if I’m going to feel like shit tomorrow or not. Started to feel some side effects on the way home and thought "better get home before this stuff really kicks in." So, it's just like being back at university!


Anyway, I’ll go out if I feel okay.
 
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mist

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Thought it was a shame about cute blonde, she was very fuckable and I was pretty impressed by her extensive knowledge of 1970’s rock n roll excess, especially for a young girl who couldn’t be much older than 20 if that.

She didn’t seem to think there was anything odd or weird about me, obviously twice her age, sitting down and trying to chat her up, so that was pretty good. I’m not worried about that anymore now. Pretty sure she’d have given me her number of it wasn’t for the boyfriend situation, and I think he’s real because of the details about him and the ‘waiting for him to be a dick’ comment.
Honestly if you have time I'd suggest attempting to get another hang out or make a suggestion to see eachother again or move her right then and there before you grab a number.

I've been having some luck with girls who have boyfriends even still giving me their number. It sort of means something and also doesn't really mean anything.

Almost a guarantee you can get someones social media account if you are down for that game.

What really does something is leadership. You're doing a lot of sets and never seeing them again.

I'm having the same thing happen. The best thing about this reality is you have the ability to be bolder and to ask for more my friend. This isn't social circle.

Also have you attempted infusing sexuality into your approaches. I had a pretty bad opener with a foreign chick and even leaned in when she couldn't hear me with a mask (ugh) but because we were both horny our eye contact stayed and we were still locked in.

I got that horny because I read a lay report from one of the Tribal Elders. I'll definitely be doing that in field to get that extra push and I'd motion for you to be horny as fuck as well by any means. (Shoutout to Gunwitch)

Great job for getting better though and approaching the women you really want!


It started to rain a little, she said she needed to go in a bit, I said so did I and…

“hey, we should get a drink together sometime” and went to get my phone for her to give me her number.
Like instead of saying sometime. You could take a leadership frame. Especially since she's new in town. Worth a shot.
I suggested we should go for a drink together sometime.

She said “I’m taken”
Again. You'll most likely never see her again. Go for broke. Go for the now. I'm working on it too man! The further you push the interaction the less polite it gets and if you get her emotionally even when she brings up her boyfriend it might not mean much with arousal and logistics.

Girl 3: Unknown brunette, slightly shorter than me, very nice figure, great ass in tight jeans.

Street approach. I said “hi, I saw you there and thought you looked cute”

She was immediately uncomfortable, obviously didn’t speak English too well, and said “no.. no”

So Isaid, “okay then, bye”

Obviously foreign - but probably not from Eastern Europe, otherwise, she’d definitely have been into me!

Approach was bad, vibe was off.

2 reasons

  • I had to wait for a bit to approach as she was watching street performer from the edge of a small crowd, so I waited until she moved away before moving in. So nerves. The first 2, I pretty much went straight in
  • She wasn’t as pretty as I’d initially thought. Didn’t fancy her. So that threw me.
Well, we’ve all been there lads, haven’t we? Sometimes it’s not until 9 o’clock in the morning that we realised she’s not very good looking after all.

I have a friend who uses the phrase LFB or ‘low fidelity babe’ to describe this phenomenon.
I haven't acted on it but one time, but I've seen it time and time again. I might act on it again. Fuck it.
You should dive into this approach a bit more. Some of the most disappointing approaches reveal the weak points in your game.

Working on the weakest part of your game can crush your ego but it's the crush that makes diamonds.

Honestly it could've been for any reason, but I prefer to always keep the locus of control internally. This ensures I improve no matter what happens and I think you taking this approach to your worse approaches really helps.

Was it a fundamental? Approach anxiety? What were some aspects of this approach outside of her just not being as attractive. What things about you would a woman would pick up on you from this approach?

Then eventually ask yourself what are you going to do to make the next approach give you the highest probability of intimacy no matter the cockbumps and blocks. ( I don't know if using cockbumps landed but I like it haha!)

I hope this was valuable.

Keep rocking on Orgasmatron!

Peace
 

Orgasmatron

Space Monkey
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Hey dude, thanks.

Honestly if you have time I'd suggest attempting to get another hang out or make a suggestion to see eachother again or move her right then and there before you grab a number.

I've been having some luck with girls who have boyfriends even still giving me their number. It sort of means something and also doesn't really mean anything.

Almost a guarantee you can get someones social media account if you are down for that game.

that's an interesting idea.

I'll have a think about that. nice one thanks.

What really does something is leadership. You're doing a lot of sets and never seeing them again.

Like instead of saying sometime. You could take a leadership frame. Especially since she's new in town. Worth a shot.

Yeah, that's a whole big thing I need to learn about. No idea about frame so got lots to read on it atm.

I'm having the same thing happen. The best thing about this reality is you have the ability to be bolder and to ask for more my friend. This isn't social circle.

Also have you attempted infusing sexuality into your approaches. I had a pretty bad opener with a foreign chick and even leaned in when she couldn't hear me with a mask (ugh) but because we were both horny our eye contact stayed and we were still locked in.

I got that horny because I read a lay report from one of the Tribal Elders. I'll definitely be doing that in field to get that extra push and I'd motion for you to be horny as fuck as well by any means. (Shoutout to Gunwitch)

First off, fucking masks, I'm fucking sick of them.

Anyway, no, I've basically got no idea how to do that. I can keep a conversation going and (maybe) be funny, but that's about all I've got. Evidently, that's not enough.

I keep saying, I've got no idea what I'm doing, and I think this is what I mean. I can talk to people about stuff, but as far as escalating things to become sexual, I have no clue. I get that eye contact is a thing, and I try to do that, I'm comfortable with that, but I don't know how to get things beyond just 2 people talking about stuff.

Again. You'll most likely never see her again. Go for broke. Go for the now. I'm working on it too man! The further you push the interaction the less polite it gets and if you get her emotionally even when she brings up her boyfriend it might not mean much with arousal and logistics.

Again, no clue how to do this.

I haven't acted on it but one time, but I've seen it time and time again. I might act on it again. Fuck it.
You should dive into this approach a bit more. Some of the most disappointing approaches reveal the weak points in your game.

The whole having to wait and hesitation thing blew my vibe right off. I probably came across as a super weirdo.

Working on the weakest part of your game can crush your ego but it's the crush that makes diamonds.

Yeah, but it's all the weakest part, so where to begin? Lol

Honestly it could've been for any reason, but I prefer to always keep the locus of control internally. This ensures I improve no matter what happens and I think you taking this approach to your worse approaches really helps.

Was it a fundamental? Approach anxiety? What were some aspects of this approach outside of her just not being as attractive. What things about you would a woman would pick up on you from this approach?

Then eventually ask yourself what are you going to do to make the next approach give you the highest probability of intimacy no matter the cockbumps and blocks. ( I don't know if using cockbumps landed but I like it haha!)

The problem was all me, she was okay really, just not my type. I had to wait a few minutes, so I felt like a stalker. So, super bad vibe I imagine coming across.

cockbumps - nice!!

Thanks, that's good advice. I need to think a bit harder about what I can do better, seem to be doing the same things over and over.

I hope this was valuable.

Keep rocking on Orgasmatron!

Peace

Definitely was,

Thank you Mist22

Cheers
 

mist

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Yeah, that's a whole big thing I need to learn about. No idea about frame so got lots to read on it atm.
Not a bad concept to look into!

videos Thepowermoves by Lucio is an excellent place to study frames as well as obviously this place.
First off, fucking masks, I'm fucking sick of them.
Yeah I repeated myself like 4 times haha! Was still a very worthwhile approach. I walked away like

" Hopefully she thought I was a gay guy with that approach haha!"

No way she thought that with our eye contact. Pretty girl! Gotta work on projecting. Fuck inside voices. It's our bubble.
I keep saying, I've got no idea what I'm doing, and I think this is what I mean. I can talk to people about stuff, but as far as escalating things to become sexual, I have no clue. I get that eye contact is a thing, and I try to do that, I'm comfortable with that, but I don't know how to get things beyond just 2 people talking about stuff
Again, no clue how to do this.
Take the risk. That's the only way you're gonna break through. You're not running into these people again. Be a creep if you have to be so you learn how not to be. Then write about it and post it.
The whole having to wait and hesitation thing blew my vibe right off. I probably came across as a super weirdo.
Did your approach kill her? Maybe you're weird, but that's ok. Women are weird too. People are weird. It's apart of the fun to do something weird to other people in order to better your life. Take pride.

Also if you feel like a weirdo and you feel creepy there is a strong chance that she is going to reflect that back to you. Shift your belief about approaching and being more than polite.

Polite isn't enough. If she blows you out. GOOD. You'll be stronger.
Yeah, but it's all the weakest part, so where to begin? Lol
Find some articles about fundamentals on this website and on YouTube.

Pick one work on it for a bit. Write about it and post it here.

Before getting in field state an intention and or a goal. Try the newbie assignment from Chase.

Just start.
The problem was all me, she was okay really, just not my type. I had to wait a few minutes, so I felt like a stalker. So, super bad vibe I imagine coming across.
Find some time to brainwash yourself away from this thinking.

You are not a stalker. You are a sexually abled man interested in women.

You take a proactive role in your life and in the courtship. It is ok to have a dick. Women like dick.

Otherwise we'd never have been born my friend.

I recommend you get Seduction MMA by Gunwitch too.


Lucio's website


Also let's both work harder on being sexual men. Ultimately we aren't cold approaching to tell stories.

We are cold approaching to get laid and tell stories.

You got this man! I'm rooting for you.

Peace
 

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Find some articles about fundamentals on this website and on YouTube.

Pick one work on it for a bit. Write about it and post it here.

Before getting in field state an intention and or a goal. Try the newbie assignment from Chase.

Thanks dude,

Definitely helps to write about stuff, I find it helps get things straight in my head.

That's a good idea, I'm probably trying to think about too many things at once.

That's all great, thanks for the recommendations and everything else. I will definitely check them all out.

Felling a lot better about stuff today, got some great advice from you and some of the other guys.

Cheers dude
 
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