Sex on second date? Interesting article by Black Dragon

[Velasco]

they decline, i usually just keep it on for a little longer and then end the date and invite her straight over on the second date

Has this worked thus far (or is it low percentage? Girls not willing to come home with you first night, come over second night to bang?)?

 

[Skjöldr]

Has this worked thus far (or is it low percentage? Girls not willing to come home with you first night, come over second night to bang?)?

If my pull failed on the first date if they come over directly on the second? I don't think so. I have pulled girls over on the first date that i didn't lay that would come over directly to my place on second date. If my pull failed i never met them again i think. I have only laid girls on the first date out of those 4, never had any come over on a second night to bang, nope

 

[Skjöldr]

I will add:
So i just got back from a date. We were together for maybe 50 minutes and made out in the park together within 35-40 minutes. Her body was amazing. Anyways, what i will add is that i screened for her logistics before pulling @Velasco . I asked her "so what do you have planned for the rest of the evening" and she said she were having dinner with friend. It would build negative compliance to make a failed pull, so i strategically avoided making the pull, and instead just made out with her, while being the first to pull away all 3-4 make out sessions.

So bonus tip, before making the pull on the first meet up, make sure to screen her logistics. Most of the time she will decline from bad logistics, so cut your losses.

 

[Skills]

I will add:
So i just got back from a date. We were together for maybe 50 minutes and made out in the park together within 35-40 minutes. Her body was amazing. Anyways, what i will add is that i screened for her logistics before pulling @Velasco . I asked her "so what do you have planned for the rest of the evening" and she said she were having dinner with friend. It would build negative compliance to make a failed pull, so i strategically avoided making the pull, and instead just made out with her, while being the first to pull away all 3-4 make out sessions.

So bonus tip, before making the pull on the first meet up, make sure to screen her logistics. Most of the time she will decline from bad logistics, so cut your losses.

Yes if the pull not there that is the right move, with a club situation in some cases you need to be more persistent, it depends on the situation

 

[POB]

Blackdragon is 100% an online guy. His seduction advice is more suited for online game and/or for guys who are starting the journey now.

If you already have some lays under your belt - and the age gap is not that big (e.g. less than 15 years give or take) - you should always push for SDL and SNL. There's no need to stall the inevitable (exception - older chicks, usually above 32-33...those are harder to lay on the same day).

That said, if you do online or day game, the 3 bounce technique works like a charm! I usually go with:

coffee> mall's garden > any place where we can sit that is closer to my place > my place.

I don't spend more than 30 minutes on each of those phases, but the progression is not too fast - just steady. By the end of it, if she tells you: "it seems that I know you for ages", means you did it right! Then the pull is gonna be easy.

Edit: BTW, one of my last lays from online I used more or less this technique (I'm 40, she was 21, fucked her during lockdown).

 

[Skills]

The problem is guys focus on dates vs shared experiences, different shared experiences > dates.. That is also why 3 bounce works illusion of multiple experiences together...

 

[POB]

The problem is guys focus on dates vs shared experiences, different shared experiences > dates.. That is also why 3 bounce works illusion of multiple experiences together...

Of course!!!

Bacchus talks a lot about this on his "time shifting" posts. If you do it right, 15 minutes with you can feel like 3 amazing hours (perception being way stronger than reality). This is core when you bounce her 3 times:
- break rapport for a short while;
- shift gears and;
- reengage with a stronger sexual approach on the new location;

As you are building up on this, she doesn't even know why she's doing it...then in isolation, sex "just happens" and feels natural (cause "I really dig this man, I feel like I know him for real so, it is ok to fuck him now").

Bottom line is what Skills said: you give her the "illusion" of 3 dates...when in fact it's still the first one

 

[POB]

Forgot to tell, but there are ways to improve your chances when working the 3 bounce:
1) dress like your best version. I mean, put on your best clothes, best shoes, best hair, best scents...everything that could give you an edge and make you really stand out from the crowd...better yet if she shows up dressing casual...you WANT that contrast and wow effect tingling between her legs;
2) workout 2-3 hours prior to the date...it increases muscle pump and put your pheromones to work;
3) pick a day and time where the venues are not packed...so you can sit and talk alone about any subject;
4) when she is at your place, if you feel sex is not happening right away and you will need to work on her a bit more, change your clothes to something more casual to match her style;