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Game be like that sometimes.
Was dressed simple edgy-all black, a necklace, bracelet, and couple of rings.
Wandering around my usual venue with a wing, I see a girl give a few glances in my direction. Easily a 9. Make a slow circle around, then open body rocking situationally. Easy enough to hook. She mentions she's been wanting sit down because her feet hurt. Also that a guy who was with a group talking to her friends was creeping her out. Fairly straightforward.
She doesn't want to exchange names (playfully she does this). I'm "that guy" and she's "that girl". Usual conversation, though my transition into and out of sex talk is cleaner, leaving more room for fractionation to build comfort and compliance. She's touching me mutually decently too. I ask her what she thought was creepy about the guy, then use it to do some light sex talk. I talk about how most guys are possessive, etc.
At some point, I finish my drink, and suggest we go grab another one inside. So far, so good. We go inside, I've met her friends, and then we go and grab a drink. We find a new couch in the venue and sit there. I screw up here in gambit selection. I'm talking about sex with new people, and she tells me she doesn't do one night stands because the sex isn't going to be good, so what's the point. I transition into 8 orgasms, but I think a better one for the context would have been sexual frustration. It's also hard to get a read on whether or not she's eating the sex talk, so I only discuss 3 of them before cutting back out (this is where 8 orgasms is nice because you can always cut out). Also she mentions that her friends are super open, and have been pushing her to hook up with a random guy because she's more on the conservative side regarding that. Due to that, I also don't want to go too deep into sex talk, even if she is saying she's sex positive. Still... I think sexual frustration would have been the appropriate sexual resistance buster + sexual prizing gambit to use, and might have helped. Though again, this wasn't a big issue in the grand scheme of things.
I'm trying to display social awareness, and tell her maybe we should look for her friends to make sure they aren't worried. Uncalibrated behavior, given what she's said about them letting themselves be with guys who are around. Though I do see her texting them while with me. She shows me some of the texts. Her friend is at another bar (I've already suggested a different bar), but she wants to go to the same bar her friend is at. Perhaps I could have pushed better. I know the next bar is not good for seduction. It's crowded, full of wildcards, but I'm not sure what to do. I've also told the girl I think that bar is trashy (another mistake?).
Anyway, I try to reframe my initial objection by same maybe the vibe and the context will be different. She tells me she doesn't want to make me go somewhere I don't want to. Maybe I should have just number grabbed.
At the next bar, we both say we need to use the bathroom. We run into her friend, and she stops to talk, and I go to the bathroom. I come back and my girl is still talking to the friend, then she goes to the bathroom (you can see how this fuckup is building).
She takes her sweet time. I try to talk to her friend, but her friend is with a guy, enjoying that. I try to talk to some other people in the bar. An unattractive girl comes to me and opens me-maybe I should have just talked to her, but I didn't want to trigger a frame war by having another girl with me-probably bad decision. A bit of jealousy, and so long as I wasn't displaying outward signs of interest, it would have been better.
Girl comes back, another guy with her talking to her. The positioning does not display interest, merely friendliness. I don't know what to do, so I try to stay stoic and get a few glasses of water from the bar. It's taking a while, so I ask my girl to hold my glass while I go to the bathroom. She complies, but when I come back and get the glass, she doesn't introduce me, and also closes off the conversation so I can't really enter.
Eventually, I find a group to talk to, they buy me a drink. But my girl is leaving with her friend (sans any guy), and doesn't say anything or look at me.
This is one I would definitely appreciate more help on. Fractionation, sex talk were good. She liked me. She was compliant. I feel like a few mistakes were that I should have heavily pushed to not going to the bad bar, but her wanting to see friend is a different issue. I need to be more pushy. Could use a yes ladder to suggest the different spot, and that we can catch them when they leave. Other issues is that I shouldn't have tried to get to meet her friends. She was not pushing for time, so maybe we could have stuck to the same venue.
Can clarify any bits that aren't clear.
Was dressed simple edgy-all black, a necklace, bracelet, and couple of rings.
Wandering around my usual venue with a wing, I see a girl give a few glances in my direction. Easily a 9. Make a slow circle around, then open body rocking situationally. Easy enough to hook. She mentions she's been wanting sit down because her feet hurt. Also that a guy who was with a group talking to her friends was creeping her out. Fairly straightforward.
She doesn't want to exchange names (playfully she does this). I'm "that guy" and she's "that girl". Usual conversation, though my transition into and out of sex talk is cleaner, leaving more room for fractionation to build comfort and compliance. She's touching me mutually decently too. I ask her what she thought was creepy about the guy, then use it to do some light sex talk. I talk about how most guys are possessive, etc.
At some point, I finish my drink, and suggest we go grab another one inside. So far, so good. We go inside, I've met her friends, and then we go and grab a drink. We find a new couch in the venue and sit there. I screw up here in gambit selection. I'm talking about sex with new people, and she tells me she doesn't do one night stands because the sex isn't going to be good, so what's the point. I transition into 8 orgasms, but I think a better one for the context would have been sexual frustration. It's also hard to get a read on whether or not she's eating the sex talk, so I only discuss 3 of them before cutting back out (this is where 8 orgasms is nice because you can always cut out). Also she mentions that her friends are super open, and have been pushing her to hook up with a random guy because she's more on the conservative side regarding that. Due to that, I also don't want to go too deep into sex talk, even if she is saying she's sex positive. Still... I think sexual frustration would have been the appropriate sexual resistance buster + sexual prizing gambit to use, and might have helped. Though again, this wasn't a big issue in the grand scheme of things.
I'm trying to display social awareness, and tell her maybe we should look for her friends to make sure they aren't worried. Uncalibrated behavior, given what she's said about them letting themselves be with guys who are around. Though I do see her texting them while with me. She shows me some of the texts. Her friend is at another bar (I've already suggested a different bar), but she wants to go to the same bar her friend is at. Perhaps I could have pushed better. I know the next bar is not good for seduction. It's crowded, full of wildcards, but I'm not sure what to do. I've also told the girl I think that bar is trashy (another mistake?).
Anyway, I try to reframe my initial objection by same maybe the vibe and the context will be different. She tells me she doesn't want to make me go somewhere I don't want to. Maybe I should have just number grabbed.
At the next bar, we both say we need to use the bathroom. We run into her friend, and she stops to talk, and I go to the bathroom. I come back and my girl is still talking to the friend, then she goes to the bathroom (you can see how this fuckup is building).
She takes her sweet time. I try to talk to her friend, but her friend is with a guy, enjoying that. I try to talk to some other people in the bar. An unattractive girl comes to me and opens me-maybe I should have just talked to her, but I didn't want to trigger a frame war by having another girl with me-probably bad decision. A bit of jealousy, and so long as I wasn't displaying outward signs of interest, it would have been better.
Girl comes back, another guy with her talking to her. The positioning does not display interest, merely friendliness. I don't know what to do, so I try to stay stoic and get a few glasses of water from the bar. It's taking a while, so I ask my girl to hold my glass while I go to the bathroom. She complies, but when I come back and get the glass, she doesn't introduce me, and also closes off the conversation so I can't really enter.
Eventually, I find a group to talk to, they buy me a drink. But my girl is leaving with her friend (sans any guy), and doesn't say anything or look at me.
This is one I would definitely appreciate more help on. Fractionation, sex talk were good. She liked me. She was compliant. I feel like a few mistakes were that I should have heavily pushed to not going to the bad bar, but her wanting to see friend is a different issue. I need to be more pushy. Could use a yes ladder to suggest the different spot, and that we can catch them when they leave. Other issues is that I shouldn't have tried to get to meet her friends. She was not pushing for time, so maybe we could have stuck to the same venue.
Can clarify any bits that aren't clear.
