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Been working on decomposing my field journal for weeks. Suprizingly time consuming. Hoping to get to a point where i can startshooting out field reports.Till then here is the events of a recent outing. Btw, this is officially my first FR, so i apologize in advance for formatting errors. Skip to the yellow for the down and dirty.
Background; for the most part i go poaching for isolated hbs ( both in.Night and day game). It dawned on me a while ago that hotter hbs traveled in groups so i decided to get my shit together and grabbed myself a wing, specifcally for busting 2 sets.i petitioned an afc friend of mine and soon realized there is a limitedamount of assists you can give before you're carying both interactions. So i found myself a natural. He is my current wing. We, both being in uni, have a large amount of time between our morning class and lunch, so we decided to go roaming for group sets.
We first head to the commons/ main eating area. We stand and stare for for 5 or so minutes until i realize that we are wasting time. Isuggest that we do some warm up sets. My natural companion gives me a weird look( dunno, maybe naturals dont do warm ups). After a second of hesitation he agrees.
I opened my first "set" in the commons. I only see a back andiopen from behind. I see an hb 5, tuens out we already met, so we fluff for 5ish minutes then i politely excuse myself.
My natural friend then opens a set by obviously checking out a nearby blonde. She turns as if to say "excuse me!." he smiles. He has her where he wants her, i leave him and wander off into one of the adjacent hallways in the lit department. I see a two girls sitting reasonably close against a wall. Hb7 on right, hb8 on left. Was briefly confused about which side to open from. One of those old straus diagrams forapproaching popped into my head but after 20 sec of mental deliberation, i just wedged myself between the 2. I open
" i feel so sorry for you...(facial expression similar to losing a grandparent)"
She looks up. Pauses as if thinking. She's Def. Out of autopilot. I then point at the book.
"For having to read that", i continue.
That interaction leads into some fluff then deepdiving about childhood, beleifs on schooling,etc..soon my wing resurfaces and hovers over us. He flashes me a "this is not the mission" type of stare. I then eject.
We return to the commons. My wing points at an hb9 blonde mired in a group of 6. He challenges me to go in. I cautiously agree. I spend a scary amount of time thinking of an opener, till i say fuck it. Ill approach when im comfortable enough to not force a set. ( i have horror stories of doing just that)
I glance accross the sea of people in the commons then spot a hb9 20 or so yards away. I move closer turns out its an 8 but not by much. She is seated alone. She looks bored. As I'm pondering my approach she gets up from her seated position and starts walking towards the large main doors. A hasten my pace and match it to hers. She seems to be moving to fast for me to reach her without me having to catch my breath but she slows down abruptly as she pulls out her phone to text. I open from the side.
I smile to myself at this point. No. No, girl you are not controling this frame. I like to start with compliance tests before moving the interaction forward, so i jumped in to autopilot.
3 needed to phaseshift.
I noted my 3 compliance. ( initial name. Unnecesary repition of the name. Motion stop then redirection.) It kills me that the process is so methodical for me. Wonder if its like that for everone? Anyway, i launch into a dhv story about an alcoholic highschool teacher who always staggered in 20 min late and unprepared. One day he made our class look up the meaning of our names bacause he hadno lesson plans. I explain how most names are boring
I got her laughing but more importantly to me, she finally uncrossed those damn arms. We fluff a bit longer until i bring up something about our current state being different than where i came from. (just relocated here) this prompts her to ask where im from. I refuse to give her an answer, which leads into a guessing game. Her first guess is California. Wrong. Seccond is michigan. Why? She than challenges that shes not good at gueasing so I qualify her by saying the worst thing a girl said was missispi and that damn near killed me. So shes doing pretty good. She laughed.
But still wrong.her final answer is new york. Wrong. But she devles int the topic. I bringup the image pf nyc rats sipping starbucks and scaring kids off the subway. She mentions never going to the eastcoast and a lightbulb turns on in my head.
I walk her back into commons and to a table . commons is clearing out. Lunch is more or less over. We r the only 2 people in the cafeteria.
Had one bad experience before doing kino early so i typically wait until there are blaring iois. This is the point i noticed them all. I jump into the yes ladder. Oldie but goodie. First q for me is always r u human. The answer is always yes.i qualified this chick with a hi 5. Q2 varies on mood . today it was are you open minded.
I break into the question with a dhv story and drop an open loop asking her to remind me to bring up a topic later. Mid story i use both hands to grab her shoulders emphatically for clarification but linger on her shoulders afterwards. Q3 is are you observant. To which she replied yes.
I then run her through a visualization exercise i came up with where i break distance . I ask for her hand . i make her clench and open her fist telling her its necessay for the exercise. ITS NOT. Get back onto her shoulders ask her to visualise burning coals where im holding. Ill post the technique intoboards one of these days but the gist is to get 90 percent of kino taken care of in 1 min and 1/2.
Her friends but in. But after seeing us in what must have looked lIke an intimate position. They leave. More of them come so i ask her to close her eyes so she doesnt break circle. I run through the exercise using a bit of nlp. I get close enough to feel her body heat. When its complete im holding her hands and say
As i write this i realize how badly i fucked up. At this point i could have gone in for the kiss but wussed out opting to complete the exercise and return to the polar plunge story. Somewhere after i explain the polar plunge she looks around at the empty commons and remembers she has a class to get to. Spell Broken.
She gets up and starts moving away. All kinds of alarms are going off in my head. I think i Might lose the set. I decide to follow her. I try some deep diving but to no avail.in 30 sec the convo moves from rapport back into interview style questions as she leads us towards wherever she is going . then it hit me. Where was she going.
In my head i thought "im saved!" I sear i said a silent prayer to god. It was like a dove landed on me.i hopped back into auto pilot, self depricated, and deep dive her about her career path. She is actually sthdent teaching. As I did this, another student ran into us( we were walking pretty fast towards the science dept. ). He excused himself and was off. Then i jumped intoroll playing.
This continues until we are about ten feet from the door to the class she is teaching. She begins tosay that she has to go then i use somethijg i remember reading on the boards about countering her when shes about to leave. I coopted her last words and said i had to getgoing to my next class any way(even though it was in another building) before she could finish her statement. I rushed the number close.
She gives me her number. We have a coversation about our cracked phones while shes giving me hers.i Was trying to "occupy her mind" but it came out really akwardly. Maybe because i was forcing it. Maybe because i was the only one with the cracked phone?
What really worried me was closing. My last 5 aproaches ended horribly and awkwardly. I wanted to try a variation of something someone told me on the boards. shout out to TwoRocky
Dont remember exactly what i said when we leftor what she said but i watched her enter her room then walked off.
Takeaways: 1. dont take too much time. This whole interaction took 25ish min. It kills me that she forced that close 2. May need to utilze more chaseframes. Think i only used one the whole time. 3. Dont be afraid to pull the trigger. I will forever walk by the commons and regret not going for the kiss. 4. How do i not get so methodical? Felt like a robot. Couldnt even remember her last name cause i was trying to think ahead
Any and all feedback is welcome. Thanks in advance
Background; for the most part i go poaching for isolated hbs ( both in.Night and day game). It dawned on me a while ago that hotter hbs traveled in groups so i decided to get my shit together and grabbed myself a wing, specifcally for busting 2 sets.i petitioned an afc friend of mine and soon realized there is a limitedamount of assists you can give before you're carying both interactions. So i found myself a natural. He is my current wing. We, both being in uni, have a large amount of time between our morning class and lunch, so we decided to go roaming for group sets.
We first head to the commons/ main eating area. We stand and stare for for 5 or so minutes until i realize that we are wasting time. Isuggest that we do some warm up sets. My natural companion gives me a weird look( dunno, maybe naturals dont do warm ups). After a second of hesitation he agrees.
I opened my first "set" in the commons. I only see a back andiopen from behind. I see an hb 5, tuens out we already met, so we fluff for 5ish minutes then i politely excuse myself.
My natural friend then opens a set by obviously checking out a nearby blonde. She turns as if to say "excuse me!." he smiles. He has her where he wants her, i leave him and wander off into one of the adjacent hallways in the lit department. I see a two girls sitting reasonably close against a wall. Hb7 on right, hb8 on left. Was briefly confused about which side to open from. One of those old straus diagrams forapproaching popped into my head but after 20 sec of mental deliberation, i just wedged myself between the 2. I open
" i feel so sorry for you...(facial expression similar to losing a grandparent)"
She looks up. Pauses as if thinking. She's Def. Out of autopilot. I then point at the book.
"For having to read that", i continue.
That interaction leads into some fluff then deepdiving about childhood, beleifs on schooling,etc..soon my wing resurfaces and hovers over us. He flashes me a "this is not the mission" type of stare. I then eject.
We return to the commons. My wing points at an hb9 blonde mired in a group of 6. He challenges me to go in. I cautiously agree. I spend a scary amount of time thinking of an opener, till i say fuck it. Ill approach when im comfortable enough to not force a set. ( i have horror stories of doing just that)
I glance accross the sea of people in the commons then spot a hb9 20 or so yards away. I move closer turns out its an 8 but not by much. She is seated alone. She looks bored. As I'm pondering my approach she gets up from her seated position and starts walking towards the large main doors. A hasten my pace and match it to hers. She seems to be moving to fast for me to reach her without me having to catch my breath but she slows down abruptly as she pulls out her phone to text. I open from the side.
i pre open
Copious: hmmmmm (really loudly)
She looks in my direction. I slowly meet her gaze
Copious: you looked like you were having sooooooo much fun (sarcastically) down here.
I bob my head towards her phone.
Hb: (brief pause) ha ha ha.....your right
Copious: just had to come say, hi
Hb:ha ha....im K. What's your name?
I smile to myself at this point. No. No, girl you are not controling this frame. I like to start with compliance tests before moving the interaction forward, so i jumped in to autopilot.
3 needed to phaseshift.
Woops. Might have hit a bad topic? For some reason negative body language like that just bothers me. I make a Mental note to get her to stop that later. She eventualy opened up after wasting 5 min. Do any of you more experienced guys know how to open them up quicker?Copious: I'm copious. What an "exotic" name (pause then cocky smile). Can you repeat it?
K: (eagerly) its K.
Copious: hmmmm.... Now, can you spell it?
K: sure its k.......
Copious: (confused expression the i spell out the first 4 letters like a toddler) ummm. Can you do it one more time. Kindergarten was harder for some of us.
K: ha ha ha spells one more time.
Copious: I like it. Its different (i stop walking then she follows suit stopping as well) Is there a story behind it?
K: (crosses her arms imediately) um. No. Not really.
K: bull crap. Everyones' name has some meaning. Come with me. (i deliberately turn her in the opposite direction)
I noted my 3 compliance. ( initial name. Unnecesary repition of the name. Motion stop then redirection.) It kills me that the process is so methodical for me. Wonder if its like that for everone? Anyway, i launch into a dhv story about an alcoholic highschool teacher who always staggered in 20 min late and unprepared. One day he made our class look up the meaning of our names bacause he hadno lesson plans. I explain how most names are boring
Copious: seriously, could not beleive this guy....blah blah blah...when we my bes t friend looked up HER name it literally meant wide open grassy meadow.
K:ha ha
Copious: you know, i think i got out kind of lucky....(fraction looking away letting conv. die)
K: um why?
Copious:Hmm?
K: Why were you lucky?
Copious: oh....well i looked it up and...Mine had 2 definitions. An oxford version and an urban dictionary version. Which do you wanna hear?
K: UD (obviously)
Copious: Too bad. Your getting the first. ( I tell her my boring version)
K: ha ha. what about the other one?
Copious: (pause then spell it out in the air) Majestic Master of Unicorns!
K: ha. Ha.
I got her laughing but more importantly to me, she finally uncrossed those damn arms. We fluff a bit longer until i bring up something about our current state being different than where i came from. (just relocated here) this prompts her to ask where im from. I refuse to give her an answer, which leads into a guessing game. Her first guess is California. Wrong. Seccond is michigan. Why? She than challenges that shes not good at gueasing so I qualify her by saying the worst thing a girl said was missispi and that damn near killed me. So shes doing pretty good. She laughed.
But still wrong.her final answer is new york. Wrong. But she devles int the topic. I bringup the image pf nyc rats sipping starbucks and scaring kids off the subway. She mentions never going to the eastcoast and a lightbulb turns on in my head.
Copious: so i take it, your from around here?
K: yah, i dont live too far away
Copious: (smile to myself, woah is he already thinking about the pull?) no, no like were you born and raised here
K: yes
Copious: is that a good thing?
K: blabs something about snowboarding.
Copious: Thats awesome. Ive been dying to get back into into it...........you know (pregnant pause)...youve been nice...so ill give you some info. I actually grew up in boston.
K: ahh so thats where your from
Copious: nope but your getting warmer. Think really warm. But seriously snoboarding culture is a huge thing up there and id love to getback into it. I know you normally go to the resorts with your friends right?
K: yah. Its amazing we normally go to blank resort. ( i honestly have no recolection of what resort. Too busy thinking about transitioning) its so much fun.
Copious: back on the east coast id get to fly up to boston and hang with my friends doing these crazy winter sports like....whT do you do with yours?
K: sometimes we go to the oval (winter olympics were here) and ice skate or blah blah blah
Copious: sounds fun. Thats exactly the kinds of things id doo with the gang. God i miss them. Cant fly back this year cause im so far away. But theres this one thing we'd do, you might have done itsince its so cold up here. Its called the polar plunge. Have you done it before?
K: um.... no.
Copious: you sure?
K: i dont think so
Copious: you're a pretty fun person, i seriously think you've done it. Mind if i run a test on you?
K:ha. Ha. sure
I walk her back into commons and to a table . commons is clearing out. Lunch is more or less over. We r the only 2 people in the cafeteria.
Had one bad experience before doing kino early so i typically wait until there are blaring iois. This is the point i noticed them all. I jump into the yes ladder. Oldie but goodie. First q for me is always r u human. The answer is always yes.i qualified this chick with a hi 5. Q2 varies on mood . today it was are you open minded.
I break into the question with a dhv story and drop an open loop asking her to remind me to bring up a topic later. Mid story i use both hands to grab her shoulders emphatically for clarification but linger on her shoulders afterwards. Q3 is are you observant. To which she replied yes.
I then run her through a visualization exercise i came up with where i break distance . I ask for her hand . i make her clench and open her fist telling her its necessay for the exercise. ITS NOT. Get back onto her shoulders ask her to visualise burning coals where im holding. Ill post the technique intoboards one of these days but the gist is to get 90 percent of kino taken care of in 1 min and 1/2.
Her friends but in. But after seeing us in what must have looked lIke an intimate position. They leave. More of them come so i ask her to close her eyes so she doesnt break circle. I run through the exercise using a bit of nlp. I get close enough to feel her body heat. When its complete im holding her hands and say
Copious: you realize your hands......have gotten warmer...right?
K: mhmmm....(touching, flipping and moving her hair involuntarily)
Copious: is it the coals or just...me?(cocky smile)
K: little bit of you...( looks down)
As i write this i realize how badly i fucked up. At this point i could have gone in for the kiss but wussed out opting to complete the exercise and return to the polar plunge story. Somewhere after i explain the polar plunge she looks around at the empty commons and remembers she has a class to get to. Spell Broken.
She gets up and starts moving away. All kinds of alarms are going off in my head. I think i Might lose the set. I decide to follow her. I try some deep diving but to no avail.in 30 sec the convo moves from rapport back into interview style questions as she leads us towards wherever she is going . then it hit me. Where was she going.
Copious: im curious, what class are you going to?
K: I'm actually teaching it.
Copious: no way! Prove it.
K: yah, i am. (she qualifies herself for a minute or so)
In my head i thought "im saved!" I sear i said a silent prayer to god. It was like a dove landed on me.i hopped back into auto pilot, self depricated, and deep dive her about her career path. She is actually sthdent teaching. As I did this, another student ran into us( we were walking pretty fast towards the science dept. ). He excused himself and was off. Then i jumped intoroll playing.
She states some fact about early teachers traveling and being poorand needing apples as donations. Did she see this causei screened for smartness? Wonder what would have happened if id played her off asthe sexy teacher?Copious: Ok. So you're passionate about teaching?
K: ah hmmm. ..since i was a kid
Copious: wow. You must be smart. So, are we talking kindergarteners or.....
Kcuting me off) high schoolers actually
Copious: wow. Dunno why youd want to do that remember.how wewere all monsters back in high school? ( pause)
K: silence
Copious; but i thinkyou could do it.(cocky smile) SaY for example, I was that guy who just bumped into us and i was in your class. And ... I didnt have my homework, what would you do?
K: why dont you have your homework mr. Copious?
Copious:the dog ate it. And......the cat ate the dog mrs. .....i dont beleive i got your last name
K: last name
Copious: yes mrs. Last name(dont remember it)
K: then i'd fail you. Ha ha
Copious: what if i gave you an apple?
This continues until we are about ten feet from the door to the class she is teaching. She begins tosay that she has to go then i use somethijg i remember reading on the boards about countering her when shes about to leave. I coopted her last words and said i had to getgoing to my next class any way(even though it was in another building) before she could finish her statement. I rushed the number close.
Copious: interesting. Interesting. But now I have 3 qs for you. Do you like soda?
K: not really
Copious: you must be fun on the weekends...(cocky smile) are you into tea?
K: yah
Copious: Do you dig coffee?
K: love it ( excitedly)
Copious: well i really have to go but id like to hang out with you later. Maybe grab a drink. Would you like that?
K:mhmm ( i notice shes touching her hair again)
Copious: how do we coordinate that?
K: (reaches into bag grabs her phone and checks time) well...we could change numbers
Copious yah we could, couldnt we?
She gives me her number. We have a coversation about our cracked phones while shes giving me hers.i Was trying to "occupy her mind" but it came out really akwardly. Maybe because i was forcing it. Maybe because i was the only one with the cracked phone?
What really worried me was closing. My last 5 aproaches ended horribly and awkwardly. I wanted to try a variation of something someone told me on the boards. shout out to TwoRocky
Copious: I (bearly audible wheeze) cough... Cough... I hate....saying goodbye. Have you ever seen dirty dancing?
K: not realy.. I mean it was a really long time.
Copious: what about footloose?
K: yah. Mhmm.( eager head nod)
Copious: give me your hand (she gives it to me). Do you remember seeing a twist.
K: (face flushes red) yes. Well. I... Dont know how to do it.
Copious: nonsense. ( I twist her. )
K: ha haha ( uncontrolably)
Copious: knew you were fun. Well, i got to get going. My comercial art professor will have my ass if i dont show up today
K: ha ha
Dont remember exactly what i said when we leftor what she said but i watched her enter her room then walked off.
Takeaways: 1. dont take too much time. This whole interaction took 25ish min. It kills me that she forced that close 2. May need to utilze more chaseframes. Think i only used one the whole time. 3. Dont be afraid to pull the trigger. I will forever walk by the commons and regret not going for the kiss. 4. How do i not get so methodical? Felt like a robot. Couldnt even remember her last name cause i was trying to think ahead
Any and all feedback is welcome. Thanks in advance