Newsflash - you’re a newbie.
I am very well aware of my seduction status.
I am not suggesting that I know anything at all, and I am very much here to learn from guys like you who know about all this stuff.
But even I, as a total newb, could see that the typical advice by some popular YouTube 'dating coaches' is awful.
I totally get that you can start off with an indirect opener. But asking something that is so basic that, so long as you are a competent adult with half a brain, you could do for yourself very easily, doesn't portray a very impressive image to a prospective ladyfriend.
Who isn’t stepping outside of who’s comfort zone?
Are you suggesting that I'm not stepping out of my comfort zone?
The point I was making was that the YouTube dudes aren't asking their viewers to step very far out of theirs.
It's pretty easy to go up to girl and ask them for the time. You're not opening yourself up to rejection and you don't have to worry that you'll get some sort of terrible reaction. And that's the sort of thing you worry about if you've never done this before.
It was only by stepping outside of my comfort zone and doing things I was scared of, like saying "hey, I think you look cute" to a total stranger, that I was able to find out that girls aren't going to react in the terrible way that I feared they would.
The other point was that it was different on this website because you guys aren't just offering up easy answers in order to maintain a revenue stream. There is no incentive for YouTube guy to tell people the hard truths because it won't be popular. His videos won't get as many views and he won't make as much money as a result. Most people don't want to hear that all the stuff they did was fucking retarded, they want to hear that everything will be just fine and it will all be easy if you just follow a simple process.
And as someone who is totally new, that's the advice that you find when you start looking for ways to improve yourself - easy answers that don't challenge you in any way.
I'm more than happy to hear that I'm doing everything completely wrong. Then I know it's completely wrong and I can stop doing it, and start doing something that works.
The problem I have right now is that I simply do not understand what I am doing wrong and why I am not getting better results than I am. I genuinely do not know what I am doing, or what I'm supposed to be doing, but I want to learn.
Not unless you open your mind - on your current path you’ll score with the 1-2% of women that are BPD and see you as a convenient new narcissistic source and empty your sanity. Which is what happened to you before. Do the same things, get the same results.
I was obviously being facetious when I said "One day I meet even get some action!"
Also, I've no more sanity left, so those foxy BPD chicks will have to feast on some other poor guy's soul to get their power fix.
I'm pretty confident that by reading what dudes like you, who have this whole thing down, have to say, and going out and trying stuff out to see what works for me, I'll get laid at least once.
Again, I was being facetious, I'll probably get laid twice!
Would you compliment a man out of the blue?
Yes, I have done. I've told guys I thought their band t-shirt was cool. Also, told girls I thought their dress looked nice.
Would you compliment a man out of the blue?
Also, I'm not worried about being called a poof because I said I liked something about another dude.
Awesome t-shirt man, for instance
Cool car, maybe
I like the new haircut dude
Good goal!
Nice putt.
or Wow, that's a big dick!
Would you compliment a man out of the blue?
Also, I don't really get the point you're making here.
As I understand it, talking to women the way you talk to men isn't going to bring home the bacon.
But, as newb, and obviously a total idiot, I might have gotten this wrong.
i will add that we are talking about daygame here, not nightgame. my daygame and nightgame is different...
in nightgame i almost never compliment a girl. when i banged a girl in my car one month ago from nightgame, correct, didnt compliment her looks, i only qualified her on character traits that were conduscive to the seduction and to solidify the frames i wanted. i only complimented her physically when we were making out in the car and it was already on. i said her lips were soft and after i busted in her mouth i said she gave good head.
Yeah dude, thank you. I'm pretty sure I said this at the start:
"To my untrained eye, I think there
must be a situational element to which works best given the circumstances. And
knowing what to do and when to do it, with any subject,
is something that only comes with experience, understanding the theory behind it all, and reflecting on your experiences."
So, if I could get the benefit of your experience
@PalmaSailor
how could I have approached the 2 girls having a conversation with each other without being direct?
I really wanted to speak to the redhead because she was hot as fuck and I wanted to bang the shit out of her.
This girl was stunning. You would've wanted to talk to her so you could bang her too.
So what would you have done in that situation?
I'm just trying to learn from all you guys and make my life better
