Calls & Texts Text game: A very simple ping for when you try to seed the date and is left on read

[POB]

For context, please read this first (and the comments):
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/text-game-how-to-ping-without-putting-her-to-sleep.27916/

Let's say you are texting her back and forth using a proven structure.
(Like: get the number, ping, banther, soft close, hard close > date)
Now let's imagine you try to close and is left on read.
What to do?

Normally guys will wait a bit and re-ping.
Is that wrong?
Of course not.
But it means you are re-starting the process all over again

A better solution is to press without being pushy!
But how to do it?
After a lot of trial and error, the best solution I came up with is to drop the following text,
roughly after 2 hours of your last text, replying to your own close attempt:

"don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

It would look more or less like this:

"we could meet this week for tea
i know a nice place who has an amazing blend of your favorite flavor"

(2 hours later after no reply)

"We could meet this week for tea.

don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

In this day and age where ppl have the attention span of a peanut, it's not advisable to wait too much to get an answer.
Gotta keep the momentum going.

 

[rockstar]

Does this work well for you? 2 hours sounds really fast to me for that - some girls might not have even seen the message.

I generally try to avoid pushing on non-compliance like that. Especially so soon. I agree with not restarting though - I've made that mistake many times.

Some other possible options are a soft takeaway like "or not". Or something like "Please don't tell me you hate {X tea place}". Or just bring a few friends there (like 3 or 4 girls and another guy) and send her a selfie video with the group having fun and a message like "X was great!"

 

[Adventurer]

I just tried this with 2 girls who left me on read after a soft close attempt and they both replied, works really well

 

[POB]

Does this work well for you? 2 hours sounds really fast to me for that - some girls might not have even seen the message.

Irrelevant in this context.
What matters is that your msg pop on her phone so she can check and answer it.

I generally try to avoid pushing on non-compliance like that. Especially so soon.

Usually I would agree with this.
But young chicks forget stuff really fast.
It's more of a reminder than anything else.

I agree with not restarting though - I've made that mistake many times.

Me too.

Some other possible options are a soft takeaway like "or not".

Personally I would not use this.

Or something like "Please don't tell me you hate {X tea place}".

This I like....but mine is more neutral, which is what I prefer in this scenario.

Or just bring a few friends there (like 3 or 4 girls and another guy) and send her a selfie video with the group having fun and a message like "X was great!"

Too much trouble IMO.
She'll probably smell that you are trying to get her attention without looking like it.

 

[Skjöldr]

Normally guys will wait a bit and re-ping.
Is that wrong?
Of course not.
But it means you are re-starting the process all over again

Agree 100%. It can be annoying to start all over, so to give her a reminder or double-down is usually my go-to. It's also a strange note to leave her on to ping later (unless I travel away and come back again months later, then it doesn't matter). Atleast if you double-down she can let you know what her objection is or whatever and then you can leave her on read and ping later or you can say "Got it, let's keep in touch : )" and then you can do the ping later and start all over. A better place to do it from.

(2 hours later after no reply)

Gotta wait atleast a day IMO, especially when the soft close isn't about the same day, or that you seeded for the same day, because you have a time-constraint and you need to get her out the same day

don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

I like the idea of this, but I have some variants that I personally prefer. I would rather send a question mark or the eyes emoji after atleast one day. I have also seen "If you're too shy, I totally understand" or "Didn't take you for the shy type ; )" work well, they feel less needy and either it challenges her or she's actually shy or has attainability issues, and you hit it right on. Maybe that's just my preference.

 

[Will_V]

For context, please read this first (and the comments):
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/text-game-how-to-ping-without-putting-her-to-sleep.27916/

Let's say you are texting her back and forth using a proven structure.
(Like: get the number, ping, banther, soft close, hard close > date)
Now let's imagine you try to close and is left on read.
What to do?

Normally guys will wait a bit and re-ping.
Is that wrong?
Of course not.
But it means you are re-starting the process all over again

A better solution is to press without being pushy!
But how to do it?
After a lot of trial and error, the best solution I came up with is to drop the following text,
roughly after 2 hours of your last text, replying to your own close attempt:

"don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

It would look more or less like this:

"we could meet this week for tea
i know a nice place who has an amazing blend of your favorite flavor"

(2 hours later after no reply)


don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

In this day and age where ppl have the attention span of a peanut, it's not advisable to wait too much to get an answer.
Gotta keep the momentum going.

Nice one, very important to avoid the whole 'restarting the convo' thing which just ends up wearing out any actual sense of familiarity.

Also prefer to wait a bit longer (I usually re-ping around 8-12 hours later, if it's morning I'll do it at night, if it's night I do it the next day) but that's just preference.

 

[POB]

Gotta wait atleast a day IMO, especially when the soft close isn't about the same day, or that you seeded for the same day, because you have a time-constraint and you need to get her out the same day

Nice one, very important to avoid the whole 'restarting the convo' thing which just ends up wearing out any actual sense of familiarity.

Also prefer to wait a bit longer (I usually re-ping around 8-12 hours later, if it's morning I'll do it at night, if it's night I do it the next day) but that's just preference.

There's nothing wrong with waiting 12 hours or a day
But my ping works for a tighter timeframe
Let's say you want to schedule her for the day after
Waiting that long won't do
This was designed for minimum wait without being pushy
It's also a way to show you are interested, but not desperate, without being too aloof

I like the idea of this, but I have some variants that I personally prefer. I would rather send a question mark or the eyes emoji after atleast one day. I have also seen "If you're too shy, I totally understand" or "Didn't take you for the shy type ; )" work well, they feel less needy and either it challenges her or she's actually shy or has attainability issues, and you hit it right on. Maybe that's just my preference.

Again, totally valid
But if I'm doing it so soon, I prefer neutral

 

[Booty Sattva]

Some other possible options are a soft takeaway like "or not".

I think the problem with this (especially in the context of a text message) is that it doesn't really come across as a takeaway, but rather sounds more like resignation or defeat... which could lead one to be perceived as low value (weak, passive, submissive, needy, etc).

 

[Booty Sattva]

I have also seen "If you're too shy, I totally understand" or "Didn't take you for the shy type ; )" work well, they feel less needy and either it challenges her or she's actually shy or has attainability issues, and you hit it right on. Maybe that's just my preference.

I like these and agree that they come across as less needy, while still calling her out in a playful tone. Just wondering if there's something that could be added to place the ball firmly in her court? Kind of a "call to action"? Or would that be pushing too much?

 

[Skjöldr]

I like these and agree that they come across as less needy, while still calling her out in a playful tone. Just wondering if there's something that could be added to place the ball firmly in her court? Kind of a "call to action"? Or would that be pushing too much?

Not for this text, it's more like a ping or a reminder to her. What she will do is come with an objection or an excuse or something and then you can take it from there. If it's been a pattern for a while that she's dodging you, you can put the ball in her court. But not after the first time IMO.

 

[Booty Sattva]

Not for this text, it's more like a ping or a reminder to her. What she will do is come with an objection or an excuse or something and then you can take it from there. If it's been a pattern for a while that she's dodging you, you can put the ball in her court. But not after the first time IMO.

Got it... that makes sense. Thanks for the reply.

 

[Witcher]

For context, please read this first (and the comments):
https://www.skilledseducer.com/threads/text-game-how-to-ping-without-putting-her-to-sleep.27916/

Let's say you are texting her back and forth using a proven structure.
(Like: get the number, ping, banther, soft close, hard close > date)
Now let's imagine you try to close and is left on read.
What to do?

Normally guys will wait a bit and re-ping.
Is that wrong?
Of course not.
But it means you are re-starting the process all over again

A better solution is to press without being pushy!
But how to do it?
After a lot of trial and error, the best solution I came up with is to drop the following text,
roughly after 2 hours of your last text, replying to your own close attempt:

"don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

It would look more or less like this:

"we could meet this week for tea
i know a nice place who has an amazing blend of your favorite flavor"

(2 hours later after no reply)


don't forget to tell me what you think of the idea ; )"

In this day and age where ppl have the attention span of a peanut, it's not advisable to wait too much to get an answer.
Gotta keep the momentum going.

At first I was a little but reticent since it's a double text, but it actually works well.


However, I recently came across a new phenomenon ! Some girls, rather than refuse the date by saying they are busy or leave you on seen simply dodge the Soft Close either sending a Reel or Mems or following up on another discussed topic.


Would you treat this like "seen" and prompt her using this method? Or would do you have another approach? I find that proceeding with up the conversation is not a good method!

Thanks

 

[POB]

At first I was a little but reticent since it's a double text, but it actually works well.

It does : )

However, I recently came across a new phenomenon ! Some girls, rather than refuse the date by saying they are busy or leave you on seen simply dodge the Soft Close either sending a Reel or Mems or following up on another discussed topic.

Like I said, the attention spam of a peanut

Would you treat this like "seen" and prompt her using this method?

Yes.

Or would do you have another approach? I find that proceeding with up the conversation is not a good method!

No, I think this approach is fine.
If she doesn't answer after this second attempt, she is probably a time waster (or needs more comfort... but it's hard to know if we don't see your convos).

Thanks

No prob

 

[Witcher]

It does : )

Like I said, the attention spam of a peanut

Yes.

No, I think this approach is fine.
If she doesn't answer after this second attempt, she is probably a time waster (or needs more comfort... but it's hard to know if we don't see your convos).

No prob

I will definetely re-start posting some of my convos, it was what made me make the most progress a few years ago. I just have to find sometime to give a translated version since many if my convo are not in English.

An interesting point @POB of your answer was the mention of time wasters/girls who needs more comfort. How do you deal with them ? Drop and move to something else? Drop and come back ? Skillfully do more comfort ?

I had in the past few girls that I turned from No to Yes using more comfort, but it was long and it required a lot of effort. Not sure if I can do that with too many girls.

I would be curious to see how all of experienced guys deal with them. Especially since @Skills and @Chase now recommending to not delete numbers.

 

[Chase]

@Witcher,

I had in the past few girls that I turned from No to Yes using more comfort, but it was long and it required a lot of effort. Not sure if I can do that with too many girls.

I would be curious to see how all of experienced guys deal with them. Especially since @Skills and @Chase now recommending to not delete numbers.

If we're talking exclusively over the phone / you've got a flakey girl who clearly needs more comfort before she does anything with you, you can do audio or video messages, but IMO the surefirest way is a phone call.

If it's your first time calling her, expect her not to answer. Instead just leave a cool little voice mail in your sexy voice that basically drips value and makes her feel when she listens to it that, "Oh shit, I messed up by not answering!"

That way, the next time you call, she will answer.

Then you get her on the back-and-forth, banter with her, relate to her, and build all the attraction/comfort you were lacking before.

Takes like 20 minutes total of time max (1-2 minutes on the voicemail, 10-15 minutes on the call). 1000x more efficient then sending her a bajillion text messages hoping to "connect with her" better that way, at least IMO.

Chase

 

[Skills]

I will definetely re-start posting some of my convos, it was what made me make the most progress a few years ago. I just have to find sometime to give a translated version since many if my convo are not in English.

An interesting point @POB of your answer was the mention of time wasters/girls who needs more comfort. How do you deal with them ? Drop and move to something else? Drop and come back ? Skillfully do more comfort ?

I had in the past few girls that I turned from No to Yes using more comfort, but it was long and it required a lot of effort. Not sure if I can do that with too many girls.

I would be curious to see how all of experienced guys deal with them. Especially since @Skills and @Chase now recommending to not delete numbers.

I have 2 specific posts talking about those situations.... even the title is exactly what you bring up lol:

Calls & Texts - when you soft close and she ignores it and when she soft close and you ignore it

This is something i covered in other post but not quite so i am going to make a kind of clarification/troubleshoot post.... If you soft close a girl and she does not bite, she knows what you are doing and she is playing stupid to save face and avoid an uncomfortable situation, a lot of girls...

www.skilledseducer.com

and this one somewhat related as well:

Calls & Texts - when scheduling she gives you a maybe or any weak agreement...

If you are texting and you do things properly you should not be getting a maybe, the ideal situation is that she is invested and respond positively to the soft close, then you hard close... It is very rare to get maybes or weak responses to the hard close if you have done things right...

www.skilledseducer.com