The Learn Journ

[Gentle_Phrases]

Rob, I think we relearned two key principle last night. Had to type it up immediately to make sure I wouldn't lose it.

A) Any story you tell after the opener must be short and CLEARLY about her or something she could be interested in

I made the same mistake with the toy opener. The content is fine as long as the girl recognizes upfront that it's all leading to a payoff: i.e. discussing her, one of her attributes, or something she *could* be interested in. Dangle the payoff away from her too long and it gets boring. Before she's fully invested in the conversation, this can lead to an urge to do what is most natural - end it, even if she likes you. I think this is more pronounced with a direct approach because a direct opener injects so much excitement into the interaction. Get banal too quickly and suddenly the "vibe" crashes.

I think when you HIT the girl in the face with something like "hey sexy," you are best served diffusing this energy by riding out that wave. E.g. imagine "you're beautiful!" then, "where are you from? Oh, Chicago? I should have known. Beautiful cars and hot women go well together. I bet you've been a terror on those streets ever since you were born- probably causing pile ups and distracting innocent factory workers." I believe that when you're direct, motor-mouthing is more important. When you're indirect, I feel as though you have more leeway to grab for straws because true direct game puts you more "on display" than indirect. To paraphrase Chase in one of his articles (can't remember which), the bolder your approach, the bolder she expects you to be throughout the interaction. That's why law of least effort approaches are most effective, they manage expectations. D

B) Role playing and teasing can salvage an interaction if you make the mistake of losing focus on her. Sexualizing can open her up if she's not in a talkative mood (snaps her the hell out of auto pilot) though you have to be careful not to push her too far over the fence and into an automatic rejection

Sort of self explanatory. See the Chicago example I gave above and remember your viking story. Also, calling out the name of a girl you've just met right before she turns around is another thing that can buy you those crucial few more seconds

I'm interested to see where you agree, where you have a contrasting view, and if you think there's anything to add.

 

[Mr.Rob]

A) Any story you tell after the opener must be short and CLEARLY about her or something she could be interested in

That's something I definitely didn't get out of last night. Yeah I told a story but it hit on a logical level (explaining a vixen) rather than an emotional level (perhaps short story that could make easy access to fall into role play?).

So for me the biggest thing was not getting logical (and killing the vibe) but instead get emotional and pull her into the present moment.

The content is fine as long as the girl recognizes upfront that it's all leading to a payoff: i.e. discussing her, one of her attributes, or something she *could* be interested in. Dangle the payoff away from her too long and it gets boring.

I think I would need an example here.

Before she's fully invested in the conversation, this can lead to an urge to do what is most natural - end it, even if she likes you. I think this is more pronounced with a direct approach because a direct opener injects so much excitement into the interaction. Get banal too quickly and suddenly the "vibe" crashes.

Interesting. Looking back my best direct opens (that lead to a result) were either ones that I said very non-chilantly without much excitement in myself (but grounded energy), small talk (w/good subcommunication), tease, boom. Then on the other hand girl that I open directly and then get physical really fast and sort of "bring the party".

Just an observation.

I think when you HIT the girl in the face with something like "hey sexy," you are best served diffusing this energy by riding out that wave. E.g. imagine "you're beautiful!" then, "where are you from? Oh, Chicago? I should have known. Beautiful cars and hot women go well together. I bet you've been a terror on those streets ever since you were born- probably causing pile ups and distracting innocent factory workers."

Italics=riding out the wave ?
I could see that and then switching to more subtext sexually implicit rather than explicit to build intrigue.

To paraphrase Chase in one of his articles (can't remember which), the bolder your approach, the bolder she expects you to be throughout the interaction. That's why law of least effort approaches are most effective, they manage expectations.

I remember reading that as well.
So you think indirect is more "law of least effort"?

B) Role playing and teasing can salvage an interaction if you make the mistake of losing focus on her. Sexualizing can open her up if she's not in a talkative mood (snaps her the hell out of auto pilot) though you have to be careful not to push her too far over the fence and into an automatic rejection

This is more along the lines of what I got out of that interaction, but not quite.

You got this from when I took things a bit more sexual (bringing up the vixen and her taking pictures of sexy guys)? Since that helped salvage the interaction. But then I immediately went into that explanation (that I thought was cool) and she lost interest.

Still the biggest thing I got out of that was to keep things on an emotional level that excites her and not spoil a good frame with logic bullshit.

That and a lot of times "maybe" girls want you to win (especially if you piqued their interest short term) but if you keep losing they'll blow you out despite if your super attractive or not simply because the vibe isn't right.

Can you see how looks don't matter?

Your thoughts?

 

[Gentle_Phrases]

Still the biggest thing I got out of that was to keep things on an emotional level that excites her and not spoil a good frame with logic bullshit.

I'm glad you were there because I totally forgot that, Rob *slaps forehead*. Yes, I agree this was another big lesson. Sometimes girls will unwittingly (or maybe wittingly) sabotage an interaction by getting too serious/allowing you to get too serious before inspiring strong emotional reactions in her.

That and a lot of times "maybe" girls want you to win (especially if you piqued their interest short term) but if you keep losing they'll blow you out despite if your super attractive or not simply because the vibe isn't right.

Can you see how looks don't matter?

Yes and paradoxically this also explains why good looks can be so helpful for that first 30 seconds when you open. Remember Chase's point about how being very well dressed creates larger expectations from the girl about your interaction? I believe he suggested you'll get more initial interest, yet less margin for error. It's because it creates an emotional response and a strong first impression. Good looks in both men and women create a strong, positive emotional response and first impression; however, some research suggests that a man's good looks fade rapidly from the memory of men and women.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...unctions-why-do-women-find-handsome-men-so-fo

A woman's good looks remain in the consciousness of both sexes for much longer. Therefore a good looking guy cannot rely on a nice smile to carry him throughout the interaction. He has to use other things. So yes, I feel you now. Any way you cut it, this stuff is hella hard. So what else do we know creates a strong emotional response? Rock solid fundamentals also create a strong, positive emotional response. So can elite eye contact. So can sexualizing a conversation in the right way. So can teasing. So can using a woman's name to regain her attention.

The greater the degree to which you influence her emotions throughout the interaction...the more likely she is to go from "maybe"...to yes. Thoughts?

Italics=riding out the wave ?

Yep

So you think indirect is more "law of least effort"?

Depends. Like I said, I've also noticed that I get more time when I open indirect. More time means more opportunities to influence her emotions. Also, weirdly enough, I get the feeling that girls "hook" more often when I open indirect. Now indirect doesn't just mean "where's the store?" It means opening with creative observations and situational humor. The important part is that there's no complimenting until she hooks by asking you a question.

Cliffs: I think direct is like keeping a ball up in the air while indirect is like rolling it on the ground...with your head.

I think I would need an example here.

E.g. imagine "you're beautiful!" then, "where are you from? Oh, Chicago? I should have known. Beautiful cars and hot women go well together. I bet you've been a terror on those streets ever since you were born- probably causing pile ups and distracting innocent factory workers."

Interesting. Looking back my best direct opens (that lead to a result) were either ones that I said very non-chilantly without much excitement in myself (but grounded energy), small talk (w/good subcommunication), tease, boom. Then on the other hand girl that I open directly and then get physical really fast and sort of "bring the party".

Just an observation.

Interesting...

 

[Mr.Rob]

Okay so I have a bit new circumstances though nothing major. New circumstances being a busy school schedule and the like leaving less time to game.

Since I live in a small town and the beach is closing it's doors to abundant tourists there aren't a lot of places close by with an abundance of women to meet.

Soooooo I'm going to have to approach women wherever I come across them no matter what.

I have a bad habit of procrastinating the first approach and it's time to get over that bullshit and create a new habit of not thinking and simply acting.

Julien from RSD talks about "as soon as you see her, pause, draw an imaginary line from you to her and start walking that imaginary line to her and say whatever comes to your mind. Calibrate to the circumstances (if she's with mom, friend, highly public place where hitting on a girl could be awkward) after you open not before. Essentially just ACT!"

This means I'm not going to be "in state". I'm not allowed to creep on girls while "waiting for the perfect opportunity to say hi". I have NO EXCUSE not to approach.

I went to Walmart just now to get some Turkey meat and was walking down an isle and passed a gorgeous girl pushing her kid with her mom. I pussed out and didn't stop them to chat her up. However as I was walking back down the isle a minute later it was just her and her kid (2 years of age).

I really didn't want to approach but I drew the imaginary line to her and opened.

My voice was a bit hesitant. Right before I opened her I had the classic self doubt right before you take the plunge and open your mouth or continue walking. Basically not 100% committed. I had self doubt in my actions. My mind is my body and my body is my mind therefore when I said "hi" my voice projected that self doubt.

Commitment in the initial first impression I believe goes a long way (the 3 second rule of first impressions) in reaching a hook point.

I simply gave this girl a compliment and a high five a bailed like a little bitch.

Haha.

Though I'm happy enough because my only goal was to draw the line and open without calibrating before hand.

Basically I'm training myself to open immediately while not in-state and not overthink things but simply beast them.

I could have easily continued the conversation and have no excuse for bailing (she reacted good).

Will keep updated.

Also since I'm going to be doing less approaches I want to keep more precise track in my journal (we'll see if time permits) of these to hopefully learn more and keep pinpointing my thorns in my side.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Aahhhh today.

Started off pretty decent and then turned into a chode.

Let's take a look.

I did get extra time to game today because I didn't have work or school today.

I started off at school and had to apply for financial aid and sat next to a pretty girl while waiting for financial aid people. I opened situationally and there were about 8 other people that could easily hear our conversation. I'm normally pretty stifled in these circumstances and usually feel a lot of social pressure (what if the convo fizzles out and everyone sits in silence for the next 20 min.?) but I opened and we had a decent chat. She got called to see an advisor and when she came back passed by, stopped, and said "have fun waiting ". I let her go. Why I didn't get up, get her out of the room (with everyone watching), and make plans to meet up later I haven't a clue. She seemed like a maybe girl and perhaps some 1-on-1 without social pressure would've easily sealed the deal. Weak sauce staying in the comfort zone.

Next girl I opened in line while getting food at a organic cafeteria. She was receptive and we had a fairly smooth interaction. She was in front of me and paid for her food and left. All I had to do was tell her "wait I have question X to ask you, just wait 2 seconds" and then propose a date.
Stayed in the comfort zone.........AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH I'm gettingggggggg soffffffffttttttttttttt! FUCK

Next came an interesting twist. I went surfing and saw some past surf people I used to be involved with through working at the surf shop. I was always a chode in their eyes (one guy in particular) and being out in the water with just them and knowing they think I'm a chode and somewhat avoiding me/not even talking to me led me to feel somewhat emasculated. I know the world is your mirror, and I take responsibility for it but whenever I'm around that one guy my mind goes straight back into chode mode that I used to always be around this guy.

As a result I felt like a chode afterwards and when I went to meet girls after that I had some really chode interactions... I digress.

I pussed out and failed to open a girl leaving the book store (she was in her car but we chatted briefly in the store) all I had to do was motion for her to roll her window down. I rationalized this by saying she wasn't that hot (true statement) but for all sakes and purposes no one I knew was around to pass judgement.

I went to a whole foods store and saw a girl looking at food there with nice legs. I didn't approach immediately because there were people around I didn't know :/. After picking out some more stuff I roll up on her and try and open situationally with "it all looks so tempting, but I know I shouldn't" I say this somewhat lowly, monotone voice, and as if I were thinking to myself and it accidently came out. She glanced at me for a split second and ignored me. I moved on without trying to reopen...

As I was walking out of whole foods store there was a MILF coming in that wasn't married (no ring) and I opened her with self doubt and delivered a compliment (I think I didn't smile :/) she looked at me as if I was a cute little retarded kid giving his mom a compliment "Oh wow good job little johnny you did so good having words come out of your mouth"
Whatever at least I took action.

Next I went to the mall. There was a girl walking by herself towards me. We locked eyes and I told her to stop for a second. She blew me off and kept walking. I then felt like a bitch.

The last two sets were basically redemption approaches that I did just to reinforce taking action.

As aforementioned the first two girls of today went smooth and I felt really good but after feeling emasculated from being around that guy surfing I felt like I was at beginner level all over again.

I'm putting it behind me and soldiering on. Tomorrow I have class with cute girls in it so I need to be on point and make sure I shape my reputation in the class to a desired point.

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

Today I felt considerably confident and lacking much A.A.

I got a haircut and warmed up socially a bit through talking/joking around with my barber and his co workers so that helped.

My goal, still is, was to focus on cutting the bullshit excuses/procrastination and step to women the second I see them instead of deliberating and "working myself up mentally" to do this shit.

I'd give myself a C in those respects today. I'm going to address the missteps first and then carry on into the actual good interactions that I messed up on.

1. The first misstep occurred in the mall. I was walking into a store got one foot inside and noticed a girl about to walk past the shop so I turned around and out the shop to go catch up to her. I got self-doubt as soon as I turned around because I figured she saw me walk in and out real quick to follow her. I had inner dialogue in my head of the angel and the devil trying to talk me into both options. I then figured I had followed her too long and to catch up to her at this point would be creepy.

What I should've done is to just step in front of her, say "excuse me but.. der dat doo dat dah" the second she walked past the store... who cares if she watched me walk in and out I could derail that thought quick as day.

2. In Walmart I was waiting in line to pay and watched as some sexy girl walked down the main aisle leading to the exit. This was borderline lazy as fuck on my part and I should be beaten with my groceries for letting this opportunity pass me by.

What I needed/should've done is put the damn bananas on the fucking counter, tell the lady "whoops I forgot my wallet I'll be right back", walk out the door and open the damn girl... what the fuck??!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

One thing that this game teaches you is that your a fucking pussy and need to step up.

It's funny some days you're a badass mother fucker and don't give a shit (lots of social freedom) and other days it's like your the biggest chump in the world that can't WILL himself to step to success if you had a gun to your head.

The worst part is that she could've been sitting next to me right now after a hard sex session... I'm now alone at my house writing this. However I've become more hard and pissed off at failing to take action whenever it presents itself and theorize that soon enough the pain/sting of not taking action and having to deal with beating myself up will transform into taking action (the less emotionally painful route).

We'll see.
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Actual interactions worth jotting down

1. Every girl after the first girl I opened I stepped to immediately this was a good example.

I walked into Target while talking to a lady and we were now walking pretty close (some fat lady I almost ran over in the parking lot Lol).
Literally on the first rack of stuff to purchase there was a woman with nice legs. I stopped talking to the fat lady and opened her immediately with a store clerk and the fat lady to witness. They also heard me tell her that she has nice legs.

I usually would've made excuses in this scenario (social pressure, she's at the front of the store, I just walked in, etc) but I didn't I took action like a boss and stepped straight to her.

The interaction went alright, she was a bit older and tried to excuse herself but we were both walking in the same direction so I told her to walk until we part. I should've told her to stop and chat for a second "so wait before you go blah blah blah blah" and see where I could've taken this, however instead I just let her go.

Should've pushed harder but at least I stepped straight away.

The next one may be a bit long so I'm going to put it in a new Reply.

Over n out

-Rob

 

[Mr.Rob]

This approach I'm fairly proud of.

I was checking out my one item in target and this gorgeous blonde with amazing style walks in and I take notice.

I'm paying as this happens so it's hard to just up and leave in the middle (thought that's kind of an excuse in itself).

I tell the lady I'm going to look around real quick and put my bag down and go after her.

I get points taken off here because she was a bit in front of me and I stalked her for a bit before yelling "hey Excuse me" and she turns around with a big smile. I don't smile immediately (mistake) and she about loses her smile but I remember and the vibe ensues as before.

I give her a compliment and we exchange names. This is a decently hot girl and I'm taking things pretty chill at this point and not overly excited or anything.

She seemed pretty hooked and we get into decent convo. It was borderline lame chode convo but the vibe was decent and though I almost positioned myself as a nice guy I also set a few frames that framed me as a bad boy and her as a bad girl which was good.

We were fairly locked in at this point and I was screening for logistics (possibly take her somewhere and fuck her then/there).

Then she got a cell phone call and I played somewhat aloof for a second till she was done. I think she reengaged the convo first after she hung up (Something to think about and do as it's an easy way for her to invest since she reinitiates) though not for sure.

Here I should've got back onto a high point, distract her from going to pay for her stuff (She seemed to be slightly in a hurry) by breaking her out of autopilot, and then propose a date and walk her back to the register.

Instead she made it known she had to get going so I told her I had to walk back anyway let me "walk you back". For some reason every time I say those words nothing good ever comes after.

Anyway we walk back and banter/deep dive and I still don't go for proposing a date (procrastinating hoping that a better moment will soon come).

We get to the register and she's like well "nice to meet you" and I go into chase/bitch/need mode IDK know what I was thinking but I got super chode real fast.

I propose we hang out again and she tentatively suggests "facebook". I felt like she was into me, though she was showing signs that she no longer was (due to my chasey/needy vibe uggghhhh).

Though because I thought she was into me I stuck around and was about to persist but instead sort of choked and kept on spouting out some more convo in an attempt to grasp at straws. This is with customers in line and the sales receptionist watching so I felt a lot of social pressure. She got on her phone texting and whatnot so I literally just walked away, no goodbye or anything.

I got my bag and looked back and some guy (presumably her boyfriend) was now with her in line whom just walked in. I think I creeped her out and she called in her dude to come fend me off.

I really need to watch out for this shit and when I get declined persist immediately without choking (stay Icy) and don't just stand there in shock trying to figure out a way to make shit happen.

MAIN LESSON LEARNED:
Bottom line was it was time to make shit happen before you get to the point of needing to say "goodbye".

That ties into working on getting a number/date on a high note in the middle of the convo rather than at the end when it's creepy.

 

[Mr.Rob]

Been busy with school and haven't had much time to approach, except for labor day in which I did fairly well approaching on command.

I'm doing a more roll up and just say anything, even if totally platonic, just to get in the habit of shooting from the hip the moment the opportunity presents itself.

I think overtime I'll become acquainted and it won't be all that bad.

However the main thing I'm jotting down today is an observation I made of attraction that I already knew but confirmed massively today.

My next door jailbait neighbor that I've been flirting with out of boredom and experimentation (was thinking about going for it but weighed the risks and have decided to scrap the very real and tempting notion to fuck her) has shown me the power of "not giving a fuck" and true outcome independence.

I've been told through numerous sources and teachers that masculine energy is freedom and feminine energy seeks to trap that freedom for itself (or a derivative of that premise).

Therefore this is one reason women like assholes is because they don't give a fuck if it works out or not and if it does cool they're not overly eager to stick around after it's done.

This outcome independence is alluring and the subtext is that of abundance, or plenty of options.

When I first approached this girl a month or two ago and rolled up and found out she was too young for me I was kind of like "meh oh well but since I'm here I might as well finish the conversation".

She on the other hand was doing everything possible to qualify herself and answer my questions correctly and just chasing in general.

It simply became "oh cool she's out I'm going to take a break from my long study hours and chat her up to kill time use her as an item of amusement to stimulate my brain". Instead of "oh cool my crush is out! is my hair nice? Okay get a good topic to talk about! I hope it goes well!"

I have trained myself to be at a base level of outcome independence however since in my mind there was no way I'd get with her (as of my decision) I had EXTREME outcome independence and it made her chase all the harder.

If I could find a way to view every girl I meet in the same light and move the conversation along accordingly It'd be game on like donkey kong yo.

However I'd be quite sure that if I were to get that state of "I want to make her mine!" the whole vibe changes, along with my energy polarity (to feminine trapping energy) and that would repel her and make her attraction for me drop significantly if not completely.

For this reason it's always important to do your best to have that masculine energy polarity at all times during a relationship dynamic (from open to LTR) since this is one of the prime factors of her attraction, not to mention the thrill of the chase.

 

[Mr.Rob]

If there's one thing that the game teaches you is that you're a PUSSY.

I've been gaming now for a year and 9 months and I still talk myself out of opportunities to approach.

I also find it interesting how some days are not hard at all and others is like prodding a mule to move an inch.
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My goal for this month is to stop deliberating on an approach, and stop missing out on opportunities. I've been getting soft in that respect lately and it's time to cut that shit out like cancer.

1. Girl sitting down. I passed her by and got a bottle of water and opened her on the way back. Should've gone straight to her instead of get water first.
This was a higher risk situation for me approaching in school but I did well and didn't wuss out. Plus had fun and made others around us have fun.
Didn't get a number though I should've pushed.

2. Little sexy Korean girl with sexy "gladiator" shoes on. I was fairly on top of my shit as far as approaching immediately goes. I'll give myself a B+ since I let her go look at something before approaching. This set went kind of lame as the vibe was just not happening and made some mistakes.

3. Stopped girl in mall almost immediately as I saw her pass me by (hesitated but didn't let her walk by me completely before opening).

4. Girl in Dicks sporting goods. I approached almost immediately. I got a shirt to hold first prior to going up to her and then approached. Give myself an A- here.

5. Girl eating fruit sitting down where I was going to eat so I joined her. A+ here for approaching but it wasn't that big of a deal. She wasn't hot and I was sitting down next to her anyway. Ended up going well and I got her number. She's not hot... :/

6. Approached girl in Fresh Market on the phone. I had timid fundamentals and not a dominant/self amused frame. She blew me out and it was awkward. GLAD I APPROACHED

Missed out two approaches while eating lunch and another one while buying my food.

7. Girl I stopped in the parkinglot. I give myself an A for approaching without hesitation. Got her number we'll see if it goes anywhere.

Hot hot girl in Walmart I missed out of shear laziness. Let her walk right past me. I should be castrated for such laziness... absolutely sickening!

8. Girl in Walmart I saw on phone. I got my groceries and saw her on the way back and approached in a chode fashion by talking like timid tim.

Overall I give myself a C- for approaching for the day. That might be overgenerous as there is no excuse for laziness and not stopping a few girls to chat today. Absolutely no excuse.

My goal is to get up to an A+ by the end of the month and then make it a habit by then.

I'm excited and nervous for turning 21 at the end of the month in which I'll have great access to night game and more approaching. However I don't have anyone to go out with at the moment and going out alone is always scary.

At the same time I used to do it all the time when I first started so perhaps I'm getting soft... fuck it's time to get in gear Rob!

Time to beast!

 

[Mr.Rob]

I've been quite interested in Russell Brand lately after watching his newest comedy show the "Messiah Complex" and admiring his charisma and free flowing vibe throughout the show.

I also decided to watch some videos of him interacting with people (particularly women) on camera to get an idea of how he socializes and I noted that he's quite a good seducer and really is brilliant at interacting on an emotional level with women.

Check out some of his interviews with any woman on youtube. In 95% of the videos the woman is clearly into Russell and is clearly enjoying herself beyond means by simply basking in his energy. Even the girls that are married that interview him get turned on by him.

Another interesting thing about Russell is that he's so "free" so to speak that people don't question his eccentric behavior and language and simply give him the get out of jail free card.

Anyway I decided to try and integrate a bit of his style into mine and it worked out pretty well (obviously I'm nothing like the man but there are a couple of snippits to take from him that are pretty rad).

I rolled up on this chick lounging in the shade of her umbrella on the beach and started chatting her up. I was really "free" and unstifled at this moment as I didn't think she was all that hot however it turned out that she was. I was very naturally amusing myself with her and free of outcome.

I felt amazing and as the bible says "thy cup overfloweth". Meaning I had so much good emotion sharing it was nothing for me.

She wasn't "doe eyed" but she was intrigued/interested in me.

I proposed we get dinner in a bit and we swapped #'s.

She txted me 10 min. later and invited me to dinner, though I didn't get the message until she was halfway done.

I joined her then and since I was too funny upon first meeting her I tried to tone things down and get her talking in which I did successfully.

I deep dove her finding out
-what she studies, h
-how she ended up in USA,
-her feelings of being here vs. elsewhere in the world (she's from Yugoslavia),
-how she got into playing tennis for 19 years of her life and why,
-learned about her travel experiences,
-found her motivation for sticking with tennis for 19 years.

However I think I could've built a stronger connection.

Things I could've deep dove more:
-Finding out more on what she's studying/why
-motivations for getting masters degree
-better cold reading/deep diving on past relationships

One thing I could've done better was to answer her questions about me in a serious manner which probably resulted in her seeing me as more of a jester than sexy seducer.

A couple times the convo died down and she reinitiated twice however wouldn't anymore prior to that.

I then started to do most of the talking in a self amusing fashion, talking about whatever came to mind.

One thing to note was that I consciously gave an array of facial expressions and voice tonality in which I believe uppped her investment and enjoyment in the interaction by making her feel an array of different emotion.

After she paid we headed back down to her stuff by the ocean.

I held her hand briefly but she wasn't having it much so I started waving it dramatically in the air which made her hang back onto my hand. This was something I took from RSDJeffy talking about moving through kino rather than static kino. Seemed to work for me thought I'll continue to test it out.

This moment the vibe was a bit dimmer and the conversation more filler. Something was definitely missing here and it definitely would've been a good moment to build a stronger man-to-woman vibe and feel her up or smack her ass or something.

Instead we talked and I knew it was getting closer to time to close or go home point since we were headed back to our cars.

I threw out we should go home and get dessert she resisted. I persisted twice and interestingly enough she literally said "I just don't feel like it" and to be honest the vibe didn't "feel" like going home. As if to say "if you made me feel horny and ran the process better then I would go home with you".

Interesting... I still text her and will persist in getting her out again to make something happen.

No bullshitting on numbers anymore either. Too many times I get lazy once I get a number and don't follow through or burn it to the ground.

I'm persisting until its game over.

Beast it!

 

[Mr.Rob]

I went to Walmart twice today and were my first 2 venues.

Quick caveat: There is a lot of hardcore negative self talk in this and you may think it's toxic but this is simply how I get myself to stop making excuses. Beating myself up for whats in my control better helps me to take action next time.

First time I went I missed an easy open due to sheer laziness. I've come to find that this is a massive thorn in my side and excuse for not approaching is due to sheer laziness.

There have been a ton of approaches that I've done in the past that were waaaaayyyyy scarier than the ones I'm passing up on these days and I'm quite scared I'm getting soft.

I had one approach today that went swimmingly and we set up a date for the night and then proceeded to bitch out on a couple of approaches after and I literally felt like I didn't deserve to go on the date with her later because I was such a pussy/lazy slug for not approaching.

Shit pisses me off but it's me that I'm mad at... the Eckhart Tolle quote of "I can't live with myself, yet how is there two of me?"

Perhaps I need to really schedule a time to sit down and list my motivation and really dig deep to find the "why's" behind sticking with cold approach along with my ultimate vision for the future.

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-Went to Walmart again later on and immediately approached the first girl I saw and bailed after. Did good here just shooting from the hip

-Next at target I approached a girl that wasn't hot and deliberated for about a minute or less before opening. Did a pretty socially free opener here.

-Next was a girl walking down the sidewalk in front of target that I tried to stop but she was in a hurry. I didn't go re open her.
2 random dudes saw me approach her and it was interesting that they hardly noticed the approach. I still have trouble internalizing that no one gives a shit about me being heterosexual.

Also missed a hot girl that walked out of target for fear of the 2 random dudes seeing me.... YOU'RE A FUCKING BITCH

-Mall I sat down on a bench outside the bathrooms and a cougar came out I started chatting to her with a situational opener and went direct later and immediately went back into situational mode. She liked me and we should be going on a date soon. She appeared to have a hot body and ambitious personality so that will be fun.
One mistake I made here was when we exchanged numbers I got up from my bench to get to her level rather than pulling her down to sit next to me. Not a fatal mistake but I'd like to make her chase as much as possible.

-Approach in Whole Foods first girl I saw. I deliberated for 30 seconds or less and just went straight up to spit out whatever bullshit came out. I'm not really caring too much about these interactions I'm simply trying to focus on going straight up without hesitation... I really really need to get that shit handled theres no telling how many girls I've missed out on because of my petty bullshit lazy/vagina excuses.

-Approach outside of whole foods with a girl that walked past. I initially didn't open her (PUSSY) but she luckily went to get on her bike and I talked to her when she did that.
Also missed ANOTHER girl coming into the shoe store next to the whole foods... PUSSY

-Next went to B&N and missed a girl coming out to her car.
Once inside had an amusing conversation with some girl I opened situationally who I teased to hard and walked away... pretty funny actually
Opened another girl reading magazines and had a decent yet awkward exchange but there were people around and I wasn't affected socially.

-Next went back to the mall and managed to approach 1 fucking girl!!!! I missed 3 while I was there.

This is absolutely ridiculous! There is no fucking excuse! I've approached in waaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy scarier situations and willed myself to do way harder approaches but I've fallen into this soft weak laziness/anxiety and there is no excuse!

Fuckin A!

I think I need to reevaluate my motivation behind this stuff and start from the top. Possibly get extreme with some ways to hold myself accountable... perhaps making myself sleep outside as I suggested to Money isn't a bad idea for me.

Will ponder this and take action to make a change here.

Also I turn 21 in a week which means it's time for nightgame. That's going to be scary yet awesome because I can get social momentum, warm up, without having to walk in silence 10-15 minutes before talking to a new girl.

-Rob

 

[Troy]

No bullshitting on numbers anymore either. Too many times I get lazy once I get a number and don't follow through or burn it to the ground.

I'm persisting until its game over.

Mr. Rob,

I like the positive attitude. I realize on reading your posts that you do a lot of approaches. That's great man. I find that repetition is a key to finding patterns and fixing the potholes along the journey.

One thing that really stuck out to me further up in your report is you saying voice fundamentals could do with some improving. I didn't read every post down the line so I'll ask. How great are your fundamentals lately? Specifically your voice? I have a similar problem where I stammer a lot or sometimes speak too low. I've been working on it though. Some things I might suggest that have helped me are apps from the Google play store, in field voice recorder, call recorder app, and exercise ebooks to develop a good voice. Toastmasters is my favorite

https://www.google.com.jm/url?sa=t&...pIK4Bg&usg=AFQjCNGr5A2ZYny-8IqkSwjy3gK3DsdZaQ

Anyway, I like what I read in your posts. Very interesting stuff. I'll keep a watch on how much you've progressed and will progress.

Troy