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Understanding Hot Girls, The Stalker Factor

MonsieurLabrie

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For a long time in my life, I wondered why the hottest girls could be so mean and dismissive to guys who had the courage to approach them. Why were they falling in love with guys who cheated on them and treated them like dirt and treating those guys like kings? It made no sense to me whatsoever until I learned about the depth of the stalker problem.

Note that while average or “cute” girls share this trait, it is nowhere as pronounced, meaning they will allow more romance early on, won’t flake as much, etc.

On the other hand, top girls have to deal with the devastating effect they have on some men’s minds. I’m sure you’ve heard stories of gooey love declarations at awkward moments or desperate guys ambushing them with confessions of their feelings.

Truth is, the girls have learned to mistrust guys who are too much into them because they have learned from their mistakes earlier in life. Maybe they dated a guy in their late teens or early twenties that they weren’t that much into, because he wasn’t a great lover or was too insecure or jealous or another reason. She broke up with him, but he wouldn’t take it. In his mind, this girl was the girl of his dreams, the woman of his life. So he started stalking her and trying to prevent her from dating other girls and tried to get back with her. Usually it ends very badly.

Now what do you think happens when the hot girl identifies the same kind of behavior as the former stalker in a guy.
Don’t you think she would associate feelings of fear with him?
Don’t you think she would be turned off by him?
Don’t you think she wouldn’t want to sleep with him even if she found him attractive, because she was scared he would become too attached and maybe turn into another stalker?

This is a very serious issue for them. Some guys are really dangerous when they lose their mind over a lover, especially if she’s very hot.

So when she flakes on you because she’s unsure if you like her too much and you call her out on the flaking, she immediately puts you in the “potential stalker” category and she won’t answer the phone or your texts. It’s not because she’s vapid, superficial or mean. It’s because she’s taking precautions against a very real threat.

But when she meets a cool guy who doesn’t treat her special and puts her on a pedestal, she thinks “Finally a man I can relax with. Finally I can be myself.” With this guy, she doesn’t have to worry about sleeping with him because he doesn’t harass her with texts or asks her on a date all the time or professes his love to her immediately. She knows that if she just wants sex with him and then move on to another guy, he won’t be upset or angry at her. In fact, she wonders if he’ll even care at all, and she wonders if his other options are better than her. She loves the fact that he’s not jealous at all.

The key word is “safe”. She feels safe with him, while her many of suitors are left scratching their heads. These men are very rare for her to find, so when she finds one, she’ll try to keep him around. If he dates many women at once, she’ll try to make him commit to her and be exclusive to her, something she almost never did before with men.

That’s why, with very hot women, what you need to do above all else is to never appear “sold on them”. You express very composed interest at her body and personality, never showing any emotional reaction to her. Emotions are clunky and awkward. Never be upset or angry or overly excited. “Grace” is le mot du jour.

That’s how you avoid being classified as a potential stalker and show your value to a hot woman.
 

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Excellent post here, Labrie!

This really provides some insight on the thought processes of extremely attractive women. It's really one of those situations that you have to "take a walk in their shoes" to fully understand.

I recommend all the newer members take note of this. Understanding what beautiful women have to deal with at the core of their relationships with people will help you understand what you need to do to connect with them instead of drive them away.

Thank you for the contribution!

- Franco
 

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Hey Monsieur,

Really enjoyed the read.


MonsieurLabrie said:
That’s how you avoid being classified as a potential stalker and show your value to a hot woman.

If the girl is incredibly hot I don't stroke her ego
*I don't give chase
*I don't overly compliment
*I keep calm and in charge
*****Like you said you want to be different from all the guys she's already encountered and will encounter**********


Learning not to overly think about a girl and come across as a stalker also deals with mindsets:
*Many guys just don't know what they're doing wrong!!!

https://www.girlschase.com/content/cant-stop-thinking-about-her-heres-why-you-need-meet-more-girls Can't stop thinking of her
https://www.girlschase.com/content/how-not-be-creepy-guy Don't be creepy

Abundance Mentality also comes into play:
A guy must always be meeting new woman because if the woman knows she has him like you mentioned it's over.
https://www.girlschase.com/content/absolute-abundance Absolute Abundance

***This keeps you from thinking the girl is the only one for you, a very dangerous mentality to have in seductions/dating.****

Great topic,

Just Dave
 

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MonsieurLabrie said:
You express very composed interest at her body and personality, never showing any emotional reaction to her.
I think I need more explanation here.
 

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Thanks Just_Dave and Franco.

Stranger, this is the hardest part to get right. You see, sometimes guys will "game" hot girls and it will fall completely flat. The reason for that is because these women do not forgive any mistake. If they perceive at any time that you want to be their boyfriend or make them your wifey, it's over for you. Lesser girls don't act this way because they're the one who want to date you, as most guys who sleep with them leave immediately after and never call back.

So how do you get one of these girls? Well first of all you need to get a grasp of abundance, as in the post Dave linked to. The top girls just don't sleep with guys who don't have abundance. As you get more experience with sleeping with girls, you'll learn how to cut the mistakes you make here and there, as well as all the worthless stuff you thought was game, but was just goofy and hurting you. Once all that is gone, the hot girls recognize it. They know when a man has reached abundance.

Then later you find Absolute Abundance, which is where you don't even care that much about very hot girls because you're confident you can replace them so easily.This later one I'm still working on.
 

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MonsieurLabrie said:
Then later you find Absolute Abundance, which is where you don't even care that much about very hot girls because you're confident you can replace them so easily.This later one I'm still working on.

The really hot girls, those beautiful and have great characters, and tend to have boyfriends of the same caliber or level as theirs. I tend to be okay now, but i get grounded more less often. They cut people off fast. There are a few girls, who are very warmth, they smile and never say anything when rejecting people off.

i like the latter girls. They have more social grace, although i understand the ones that have lesser.


Zac
 

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I would slightly disagree with one aspect of this insightful post - that it is the "10" girls that get the stalkers and the obsessives.

Super hot girls might inspire lust or the desire for a trophy but IMO the girls who get stalked are the ones with average or slightly above average looks but very charming personalities. Or girls with looks that are "interesting" while not being of the "beach barbie" variety.

Average looks + great personality can be a deadly combination for a guy who is sensitive and/or lonely/unsuccessful with women.

The average looks encourage him to think he has a chance with her and she is in his league. Also, subconsciously the average looks communicate that she is not overtly sexual and therefore good wife material. The charming personality then makes him feel that she is "different", that they are soulmates, that here at last is someone who understands him or could understand him if she got to know him. Usually, in fact, she is just good at relating to people and making them feel comfortable but he will not realise this for a long time.
 

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Nuncle said:
I would slightly disagree with one aspect of this insightful post - that it is the "10" girls that get the stalkers and the obsessives.

Super hot girls might inspire lust or the desire for a trophy but IMO the girls who get stalked are the ones with average or slightly above average looks but very charming personalities. Or girls with looks that are "interesting" while not being of the "beach barbie" variety.

Average looks + great personality can be a deadly combination for a guy who is sensitive and/or lonely/unsuccessful with women.

The average looks encourage him to think he has a chance with her and she is in his league. Also, subconsciously the average looks communicate that she is not overtly sexual and therefore good wife material. The charming personality then makes him feel that she is "different", that they are soulmates, that here at last is someone who understands him or could understand him if she got to know him. Usually, in fact, she is just good at relating to people and making them feel comfortable but he will not realize this for a long time.


The thing I realized later on in my life through my own experience and others' that the hottest girls actually have great (better) personalities. They can be very charming, cuddly and affectionate. They only pretend to be "bitches" with the guys they're not interested in, because otherwise they'd have too many guys clogging their phones and trying to get with her.

My current GF, for instance, used to ask guys who came up to her if they had lots of money. She doesn't care really about money (I'm broke as hell). She just knew men were disgusted by gold diggers and that they would not be wise enough to discover the truth and pass this barrier. You see, once you get to a certain point, you understand and appreciate the "bitch" your girl can summon whenever she needs her.

So while what you say might be true Nuncle, those girls of average looks are not what men here should be aiming for. Equipped with the tools of this website, a man should realize that the 6-7 range is the low hanging fruits.
 

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So while what you say might be true Nuncle, those girls of average looks are not what men here should be aiming for. Equipped with the tools of this website, a man should realize that the 6-7 range is the low hanging fruits.

Oh definitely.

I am just saying it is often not the real stunners who get the stalkers. It is girls who are still attractive but seen as feasible by the average and below average value guy. If a guy thinks he can get a girl that is when he starts projecting all his hopes and dreams on to her. I am not saying he should do that, just that it happens. He might not always go as far as stalking but he is certainly liable to make himself miserable obsessing over her.

That said I agree with your general point that most men do not act natural around a stunner. They will either act weird, try and exploit her or try to impress her. This will make her feel uncomfortable (in the wrong way) so if a guy does not act like that around her and is high value at the same time he will be on to a winner.
 

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Great posts, thanks guys.

However, here comes a dilema. She is hot and has great personality, remains sweet to most guys, and she is rather mature. So she's got tons of guys around, and not everybody is a dummy, meaning that even "Nice Guys" can be attractive as a whole package. She is over 30 and she must have experience with some naturals. In addition, several guys around her have relative Abundace, including those "Nice Guys", and she hangs around those who invest into her, ignoring others.

So she just knows "the game", even if it is only intuitively. She knows it just by simply having so much experience with being around many guys. Being layed back, not chasing, not texting, not calling her and so on just doesn't do it. She is being hit on constantly by many guys, many guys are investing into her, and she just enjoys it. She is not a dummy, she doesn't chase nor invest into those who don't hit on her.

I am just puzzled, I'm pretty sure she doesn't even know what 'PUA' means, but she is freaking watching every my step and learns very fast, e.g. doesn't let me do the same thing (that would potentionaly lead to closure) twice. The only thing I am able to do is to keep attraction high because I have "different approach" than nice guys and bad boys, and I got 2-3 open windows which I've discovered only after reading Chase's stuff - thus totally missed them. So WTF? I am just cluless...
 

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Drck said:
Great posts, thanks guys.

However, here comes a dilema. She is hot and has great personality, remains sweet to most guys, and she is rather mature. So she's got tons of guys around, and not everybody is a dummy, meaning that even "Nice Guys" can be attractive as a whole package. She is over 30 and she must have experience with some naturals. In addition, several guys around her have relative Abundace, including those "Nice Guys", and she hangs around those who invest into her, ignoring others.

So she just knows "the game", even if it is only intuitively. She knows it just by simply having so much experience with being around many guys. Being layed back, not chasing, not texting, not calling her and so on just doesn't do it. She is being hit on constantly by many guys, many guys are investing into her, and she just enjoys it. She is not a dummy, she doesn't chase nor invest into those who don't hit on her.

I am just puzzled, I'm pretty sure she doesn't even know what 'PUA' means, but she is freaking watching every my step and learns very fast, e.g. doesn't let me do the same thing (that would potentionaly lead to closure) twice. The only thing I am able to do is to keep attraction high because I have "different approach" than nice guys and bad boys, and I got 2-3 open windows which I've discovered only after reading Chase's stuff - thus totally missed them. So WTF? I am just cluless...

You should have posted this question in General or Field Reports cause it veers from the main subject.

I rarely see young stunners collecting orbiters and friendzoning a lot of guys beyond high school.

The attractive guys just sleep with her and become her boyfriend or move on.

The less attractive guys are unable to stay in the friend zone for long because her beauty turns their brains into Jell-O. They explode in a beta-gasm of flowers and hearts, have their hearts crushed, then auto-reject. These guys would have been unable to handle it if she slept with them and dumped them. See above.
 

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Re: STICKIED: Understanding Hot Girls, The Stalker Factor

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Nuncle said:
I would slightly disagree with one aspect of this insightful post - that it is the "10" girls that get the stalkers and the obsessives.

Super hot girls might inspire lust or the desire for a trophy but IMO the girls who get stalked are the ones with average or slightly above average looks but very charming personalities. Or girls with looks that are "interesting" while not being of the "beach barbie" variety.

Average looks + great personality can be a deadly combination for a guy who is sensitive and/or lonely/unsuccessful with women.

The average looks encourage him to think he has a chance with her and she is in his league. Also, subconsciously the average looks communicate that she is not overtly sexual and therefore good wife material. The charming personality then makes him feel that she is "different", that they are soulmates, that here at last is someone who understands him or could understand him if she got to know him. Usually, in fact, she is just good at relating to people and making them feel comfortable but he will not realise this for a long time.

I can't be sure about who's got more stalker, but I would agree that the "hotness" factor is not the major one that would attract stalkers.

Stalkers tend to be ex boyfriends or people that at least went out with a girl or people who see a girl very often, and only in this last case beauty plays a big role.

So yeah, I wouldn't be 100% sure there's a strong link between "meanness/flakyness" by very beautiful girls and stalking history.
 

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:)

Hello MS Brie Larson. :) Where you go man. You had good stuff
 
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That’s why, with very hot women, what you need to do above all else is to never appear “sold on them”. You express very composed interest at her body and personality, never showing any emotional reaction to her. Emotions are clunky and awkward. Never be upset or angry or overly excited.
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I am not sure about this.

There's 2 school of thoughts. Hector talk about this in his YouTube videos.

Hector's genuine love for them do resonates with me. Hector really hates women as much as he loves them.

And personally, I feel that difference in the interactions I have with WAHMEN. WAHMEN. *snobbish women face*.

Slap those bitches PIAK PIAK DUSH. Lolx

p.s:
#genderequality #equaloutcome (HAHA)
 
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