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Viginti

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I am a 37 year old man who is still struggling with approaching girls. I am a good looking man, fit, tall, blond hair, blue eyed gem. I am easy to talk to, funny, confident, proud and caring. I am moderately financially successful though working hard to remedy any issues in that area. I do pay a mortgage and ride a kick ass motorcycle. So where do my troubles come from? When I think about my history with girls well it's fairly obvious that I bought into some bullshit believes. I lost my virginity when I was about 23 to a girl I wasn't attracted to. Before that I had never told any girl that I was attracted to them after the one experience when I was like 13. A sweet girl kissed me while we were playing hide and seek. The next night we were on a group camping trip and I proclaimed my love for her at the suggestion of an older kid and everyone heard it. Needless to say the note came and the next 23 years I lived with a fear of rejection. After my first sexual experience I did not attempt again until I was 35 and boy did I chase the girl I had my eyes on but I don't mind I got exactly what I was going for.
Today I have a realization that I absolutely have to get my issues resolved if I am going to achieve another level of success. I set out this morning with the thought when I saw someone I was attracted to that all I needed to do was make eye contact, give her a compliment, engage in small talk and ask for a number. Needless to say I approached a lot of girls and came up with reasons at the last minute to not say anything and walk on by. I returned home feeling defeated, like I had really let my self down and for good reason. I opened a beer sat down and turned the TV on, that was something I had not done for months. Feeling defeated before I even finished my beer I got of the couch, jumped on my motorcycle and set of to find someone, anyone I thought was attractive to talk to. Rejuvenated with a since of purpose I first stopped by the grocery store and didn't see anything I liked then headed to the park. There was a lot of people there mostly young adults. I walk around for a few minutes when I spot a cute girl I thought was attractive pushing a stroller and I though here is my chance. In an attempt not to get ran over by her and say something I said "cute baby" she said thanks then I said "cute mom" and she looked back and smiled and kept walking it was a start. Then I spotted another girl in a pink shirt and said I'm going to approach her and 20 feet away she pulls out the cell phone and starts talking and I walk on by. I walk for a ways then turned around and started heading back to my bike. I spotted her again and said hello. Complimented her and then was interrupted by the sister that was there to meet her and I continued back to the bike. Then I ran into another girl and again said hello, complimented her and attempted to help her find a water fountain because that's what she said she was looking for but it really wasn't. I went back to my bike drove around the park and asked the same girl if she wanted to go get a drink she said no thanks.
So whats the point you might be asking? I needed to tell someone my resolve and how I have to get this part of my life figured out fast. I can no longer put it off! and I couldn't sleep. Tomorrow I will talk to another three girls. If you read this thanks!
 

ray_zorse

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Re: This is me

Solid shit man. ;) You can if you want have your post moved to the journals board (ask Franco) since the journals board is meant for this kind of thing. Or the FRs (Field Reports) board is good for a casual report other than as part of a self-improvement journal. Anyway, welcome. I was in much the same situation as you and now my life has improved a lot.
Ray
 

Viginti

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Re: This is me

I will do that Ray thanks! I'm also new to forums... and

I realized a major limiting belief I had this morning in regards to respect. For some reason I always believed it was disrespectful to make sexual advances towards girls before I knew them well. I need a new set of believes can someone help me out here. I will continue to read the website though I would like a short list of the core believes I must have.
 

Zoro

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Re: This is me

This is exactly how the journey looks in the beginning. You're fighting against old beliefs and habits and fears.

Great job putting that beer down and getting back out there!
 

Viginti

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Thanks for the link BigDaddySc, that will help a lot.

It was a really good beer also J Wick and thank you for noticing.
 

Viginti

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Yesterday I walked around a outdoor mall and made eye contact with as many people as possible. I have done this before but never with the intent of observing people. It was amazing how many people wouldn't even look at me. Since I know I'm a good looking man I must assume that people are generally shy and I noticed how my eye contact can make the most beautiful woman feel insecure. It's great to know I wasn't weird.
 

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Viginti said:
Yesterday I walked around a outdoor mall and made eye contact with as many people as possible. I have done this before but never with the intent of observing people. It was amazing how many people wouldn't even look at me. Since I know I'm a good looking man I must assume that people are generally shy and I noticed how my eye contact can make the most beautiful woman feel insecure. It's great to know I wasn't weird.

This is an awesome exercise.
Mind your facial expression though. I'm sure you've seen the "resting bitch face" on beautiful women and also women with big smiles and doe eyes. Men have their own standoffish and warm expressions.

You can make those women smile back at you and want to talk with you if you have a warm attractive expression.
It's a part of attainability and if you're already attractive, it's something to be aware of handling.
 

Viginti

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J Wick wrote:
You can make those women smile back at you and want to talk with you if you have a warm attractive expression. It's a part of attainability and if you're already attractive, it's something to be aware of handling.

That is awesome advise I will work on my facial expressions.

I went out yesterday on a quest to say "How's your day going" to at least 6 girls. I managed to say hello to at least five though I was frustrated with the amount of work it took. I went a predetermined location a park that is usually busy though not yesterday, then I went to whole foods which is located in a part of town that usually has a lot of girls but not yesterday. I ended up at a planned parenthood rally I figured there would be a lot of single girls there and there was. I spoke with a few of them though I felt a lot of them were to young... I not sure I should really care about that. Today will go better I'm sure of it.
 
a good date brings a smile to your lips... and hers

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Yup, its work getting over your irrational fears.


Viginti said:
I not sure I should really care about that.

As long as they're legal ;}

And I have so many excuses, "not hot enough, too old, too hot, too blah blah blah."

Always approach.

At least in the beginning. Reflect on it afterwards and you'll learn when and when not to.
 

Viginti

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I found myself in another situation yesterday were there was a flurry of girls. I had a few successes with starting conversations. Which was awesome though I was frustrated with my excuses and now I'm going to adopt this mindset, approach first reflect later. Thanks for the feedback J Wick I really appreciate it!
 

Viginti

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I went out again and had success, it's the little things that matter and getting out there is extremity important. So know that I have that understanding I have also developed the understanding that it's truly is a numbers game. Knowing this I now have the basis of a physical understanding versus the intellectual understanding which I have always had. Although I didn't approach every girl I thought was attractive the ones I did approach felt natural. The one I was able to initiate a lengthy conversation with I asked if they were single and I was direct in my purpose. It truly feels great!
 

Viginti

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This weekend I had decided not to go out cold approaching but to put myself in social situations that would have attractive girls. I will continue the cold approaching today. I did have success this weekend though with breaking space and touching during conversation that I meet. They were extremely open to this and it felt natural. Although I don't think it's realistic to approach every girls I see I'm attracted to I am still hesitate to approach girls in retail stores. I will need to get over this as I know I can approach anyone and engage in an interesting conversation.
 

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Viginti,

You're making excellent progress. Malls are tough if you go during the day on week days. A lot of the people have a short amount of time to do what they came to do. So they are focused of the task at hand. You will probably have to get their attention just to make eye contact.

Your change of situation to social is great for your experience. It looks like your are ready for day seven.

BDSC
 

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Thanks BigDaddySc that helped keep me on track instead of trying to skip ahead. I did as suggested and noticed that it was pleasurable to see the girls smile. I did miss an opportunity to get a number, this is something I do to frequently and need to stop. I think I will make a habit of going around complimenting people. I did struggle trying to come up with genuine compliments in the small amount of time I have to say something. I also will need a plan to get there attention to initiate eye contact in order to effectively deliver the compliment.
 

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I did not approach any girls yesterday though I was quit flatulent and didn't feel like it was an appropriate physical state to approach girls that are sitting down... Today I will though :) Also I have been getting numbers and this is another part of communication I will need to master.
 

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I went out looking for girls to approach sitting down and success I found a place were there were a lot of girls sitting down. Then I walked around a bunch... They all had earphones in or were eating not to mention I was intimidated. I though of times in the past that I approached someone that was sitting down and effortlessly talked to them and it doesn't make any sense why I hesitated yesterday. If I was to think of a reason it would be that I'm emotionally involved when I have no reason to be. I will go out tonight, any advice anyone has to offer I would appreciate it. Admittedly I was frustrated with myself yesterday.
 

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Hey mate, I just wanted to chime in with some encouragement here. Earphones and sitting girls shouldn't be a challenge, with earphones say "hi there... CAN YOU hear me??"... in my experience they always can. Whether they'll admit to it is another matter haha. With phones or eating just say "hi there... looks like you need somebody to talk to!"... I find it useful to frame it as them having a need, and you catering to that need, rather than vice versa. And, it's true isn't it, if she's buried in her phone she's a million miles away, caught up in some social drama that's probably of little true relevance to her life, whereas you are VERY relevant ;)
Ray
 

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ray_zorse said:
Hey mate, I just wanted to chime in with some encouragement here. Earphones and sitting girls shouldn't be a challenge, with earphones say "hi there... CAN YOU hear me??"... in my experience they always can. Whether they'll admit to it is another matter haha. With phones or eating just say "hi there... looks like you need somebody to talk to!"... I find it useful to frame it as them having a need, and you catering to that need, rather than vice versa. And, it's true isn't it, if she's buried in her phone she's a million miles away, caught up in some social drama that's probably of little true relevance to her life, whereas you are VERY relevant ;)
Ray

Thanks Ray great advise. I went out yesterday and spoke to the first girl I though was attractive without hesitation. Spent the evening with her and almost got her to come home with me. I'll go out again tonight and approach more girls sitting down.
 

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I went out last night and hit on a girl I found very attractive. She had a boy friend but it still felt awesome. Also I got another number from a cute girl. This is starting to become a balancing act. I asked for it :) I do need to approach more of the really attractive women though.

Thanks to all of you whom have given me feedback. It really does help and I appreciate it a lot.
 
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