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Weird hostile responses from a girl I've been nice to in class?

slickskin09

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So today, I was in a dance class. I've gotten weird hostile vibes from this one girl. I was being nice to her one day about her electric skateboard. The day before, we went to an event as a class and I helped her carry the skateboard up the stairs. The next day, I just commented "Bringing back the skateboard I see :)" just starting a conversation. She immediately replies "What else am I gonna fucking bring?" really aggressively in front of my classmates.

I was taken back at her hostile response and another classmates jump in like 'oh I didn't know you could ride those either' and she passively aggressively goes 'oh I didn't know what you were saying' and leaves in an angry manner.

This was such a weird reaction that I just assumed she had a bad day or something cause I've been nice to her.

Today, I made a bit of a social mistake. After we were done dancing, my professor had us sit down in a circle and went into deep talk about dance philosophies after having fun. However, I was back and forth drinking water and left about 5 minutes early while they were having the talk.

While I was changing (at the back) I was listening to her. The same girl turns around and yells "TURN THE FUCK AROUND" while I was saying bye to her.

I didn't realize she said this until I left the class. But my response was just un-phased, I waved at my professor which she waved bye back, and left the class.

She doesn't have many friends in class (one other girl) and people don't really talk to her. I've been seemingly nice to most people in my class.

Anyway, if a girl is screaming at you like this when you barely even talked to her, how would you handle this in front of everyone? This is the second time.
 

weekendwarrior

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Hi @slickskin09

"What else am I gonna fucking bring?" really aggressively in front of my classmates.

Really calmly say
"A nice attitude wouldn't have went a miss"
Then ignore the mental patient as @DonGately advised, pointless getting involved.

Warrior
 

DarkKnight

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Watch out with this. She has gotten away with insulting you twice right now in quite a bold way as well. Problem is when someone does this repeatedly and gets away with it they start seeing you as an easy target. I would get a bit more bold (especially if she has no friends) and ask her in a booming voice if perhaps she is a mental patient (thank you @DonGately). Probably sets her straight.

Same thing happened couple of weeks ago this woman kept harassing a guy about him being an obstacle in her path, the guy clearly not wanting a conflict just moved out her way, but the woman kept being at it, I jumped in and told her off asking her if she has a problem and the man has already done what she asks so perhaps she can remain silent. Well like a little mouse she left. Some people just need to know you can put them in place.

You guys kinda seem young as well, especially at those ages these dynamics persist.

Ignoring is way of least effort but when someone attacks you publicly, you need to deal with it. Then again take solace into the fact that she is isolated, I would portray her as a weirdo and ignore her as clearly she is not a friend or someone to befriend.
 
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Beck Bass

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I was taken back at her hostile response and another classmates jump in like 'oh I didn't know you could ride those either' and she passively aggressively goes 'oh I didn't know what you were saying' and leaves in an angry manner.
She sounds like those angry lesbians that think you're trying to insult them everytime lol
Seriously, there's something wrong with her, I would only be polite to her and not try to start conversation anymore.

About the whole respect thing, she seems to be kinda crazy, so I don't think you need to address her or put her in her place, as you said, she doesn't have any friends there, so who cares, really? Also she didn't quite insult you directly as much as she was just lashing out (for some reason, again I agree with @DonGately, this girl is clearly nuts), so I would say, ignore her, again.

If she really continues making a case even with you not talking to her, than you escalate, but do this by calling an instructor or some authority there and explaining what's going on, don't pick a fight with her directly, because you have nothing to gain, and a whole lot to lose (she's a woman, so even if she's actting like crazy, people will give her the benefit of the doubt).
 

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As far as the responses are concerned.

Her :- What else would I fucking bring?
You :- My bad, seems like you had a bad day. Take care.
(Then immediately leave or withdraw attention)

Her :- Turn the Fuck around
You (looking at others) :- What's wrong with this girl today?

Chase posted an article on the main blog which addresses these situations. It will help you a lot.

 

West_Indian_Archie

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You did the socially acceptable thing.

But.....this ain't a forum for generic social skills

If you had designs on this chick
  • You messed up by helping her in the first place. (Internet youtuber, BAYYYYTUH)
  • You should have called her out on her poor behavior, not been the bigger man
The Red Pill mouthbreathers would make the argument that helping this chick is what made her feel socially superior to you, and you getting whipped socially is what happens when you allow it. The Red Pill is full of victim blaming mentality.

This is a PUA board, so I'm not just bringing up bitter Red Pill responses willy nilly.

I think there's some truth to the RP conception of a social pecking order.

However, the consequence of RP thinking is that you're overly concerned with others and their impressions (or rather, your projection onto them as to what they might be thinking about you), and not focused on your own "path and purpose".

As a philosophical point, there has to be a way to thread the needle between good PUA practice and RP female and social observations.

That said...

You will see her again.

IMO, if she initiates contact, then you HAVE to call her out on her BS. Ideally in front of people. (because you need social judgment on your side, and she needs to feel the pressure of all eyes on her)

I might even throw salt in the wound by telling her this is why she doesn't have any friends in the classroom*.

*I'm also a bit evil.

All that said, I only mention these "dark" type actions, because the general mood in the community is that we are always positive, upbeat, fun and clever. Rarely do we ourselves engage in the full range of human emotions - and that leaves us stunted imo. There will come times in your short and long term relationships where you need to assert yourself, you need to correct proper behavior, and being the "bigger man" is the wrong option.

Turn the other cheek, take all the hits, "it's your fault if something goes wrong", is part of the defensive nature of a lot of people in the community. There already is a masochism that society trains us with.

https://www.reddit.com/r/discordVideos/comments/y9v45i
We need to be offensive (aw-fensive) and sometimes offensive (uh-fensive) in order to really get the type of psychological hook into a chick - especially in a social circle setting like this.

From my personal perspective - stoicism is already the norm/ideal for most men. But being an unfeeling, unreactive, never emotional type of person is what most men ALREADY ARE, to a large extent. Guys are 90% Marcus Aurelius and get hated on for the 10% that isn't.....

This is my opinion, but for great Game, a man has to be able to use all of his emotions. I do not know anyone that agrees with me on this point. But I'm gonna stand on it.

The difference with emotion, is that the player acts and not reacts.

In your scenario
  • So a normal guy would keep it moving.
  • A weak emotional man would lash out, uncontrollably.
  • The player, seems to lash out, but he does so under control
And that's not something one can just do, one has to practice it.

Rather than flee conflict, seek it. Deal with the pressures it puts on you. Survive. Learn. Thrive. Then use conflict to your advantage.

WIA
 

Skills

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You simply ignore the mental patient and go about your day.

^ this...

Or if you are a bit trollish like me here are some come backs:

- damm girl! Drop the attitude you are not impressing anybody...

- you need to take midol (pms pain med)

- you are done in this town... credit rsd

If she hits u in the club step on feet...
 

DonGately

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Most guys asking for advice on how to deal with a girl like this in college are simply not going to be quick enough on their feet for a fast, calibrated response that deals with the situation correctly.

WIA is right though if you see this girl again you need to deal with it, assuming she says something anyway - never start the drama.
 
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Will_V

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Whenever you get bad behavior from someone for no good reason, it's a good idea to re-evaluate the way you are presenting yourself. People never start problems they don't think they can handle. She thinks she can handle you. That means you come across to her as weak.

Helping a girl carry her skateboard up the stairs is fine, as with all things in social communication it is not what you do but how you do it and the context surrounding it:

- Did you follow her around or get needy?
- Did you banter with her while you went up the stairs and not just lug her junk silently like some kind of butler? If you liked her did you game her?
- Are you seen as such low status that she might be trying to remove any impression to some third party that she's giving you a chance?

I certainly would ignore her from now on like others have mentioned, but if she goes out of her way to create opportunities to insult you, don't fail to assert yourself, you're a man and she's just a girl, and it seems you have some social support. If you don't assert yourself, and she gets smarter about things, she can end up giving you a reputation you don't want anything to do with.

Just make sure it's very clear to anyone watching that you're being chill and non hostile about it, a good way is to respond with a simple question like 'why are you yelling at me?' or 'why do you come all the way over here to yell at me?' and disengage as soon as she does. Don't make implicit threats, or try to convince her that everything's fine between you.
 

asfer

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In this kind of situation you have to respond in kind, "What THE FUCK is your problem?" loudly and assertively is enough. She probably won't respond and will never act like that to you again.
 

slickskin09

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Thanks guys! I saw her again in class and just ignored her. Everyone else seemed to just ignore her too. I never really noticed her but I was observing her. It seems like she has self-esteem issues.

As far as helping her carrying up the scooter, there was no way she was gonna be able to carry that but I won't be engaging her in anyway anymore.
 
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