What about the dark side of game / casual dating ?

[Yaxir]

I have been meaning to ask this for about a month but my lazy ass kept putting this off

and before i start - sorry , i couldn't approach any girls because the campus administration has been a bitch in letting us go out

we are not allowed to go out at all , unless there's a serious reason ( medical etc )

therefore .. i can't go visit any clubs or bars at nights and i can't even go out to the approach friendly places - it's bullshit but i gotta be patient and learn to refine myself until then and work on my fundamentals . I will be careful NOT to make the fundamentals an excuse - i have read that putting it off because of my slight belly will make me put it off later for some other reason x and so on .. so i will approach even if i am a fat ass or something ( i'm not but you get the point lol )

so onwards with the post ..

I hear alot of guys talking about approaches or dates that went great and you either got to bang the girl or do other naughty / sensual stuff with her , which is great ...

but i am compelled to ask some facts that are starker contrasts of the aforementioned statement

• Surely not all your dates go so well, right?
• And not all of your approaches go well either, right?
• Not every girl you go out with agrees to come home with you ( or take you to her place ) and bang ?

Respected senior , experienced members and friends , tell us and warn us about some of the pitfalls and any other aspects that we should be aware of when starting out in Day game and Night game

i am leaving out Social Circle game on purpose because i don't want to tarnish my reputation among people and friends who closely know me AND also .. there's the chance that for any reason a bitter woman might try to draw up false accusations / bullshit against me to damage my reputation and standing in the social circle - since i want to avoid all the bullshit drama i will strictly avoid gaming in social circle - instead keeping them around only for a healthy social life

Surely there's a darker side to all this ?

Would be great to hear and learn from your experience

Looking forward to some helpful and eye opening replies !

 

[Starboy]

Well one of the things that some dating coaches don't stress enough is the "dark side" of game. They sell you a vision that you can be a man of abundance with hot sexy women chasing after him.

It's kind of a marketing tactic. If you stress the negatives of learning game that alone can turn guys off. Guys don't wanna hear that they have to approach hundreds or thousands of women and get rejected,embarassed,flaked on, make mistakes etc.

In addition to that puas are amongst the minority of people in society and cannot disclose their self improvement journey with their peers. Especially not women or people who have liberal minded views.

I think Austen Summers does a good job explaining how difficult seduction is and why guys give up and what the true price to get good will take if you're willing to pay it.

 

[Skills]

I have been meaning to ask this for about a month but my lazy ass kept putting this off

and before i start - sorry , i couldn't approach any girls because the campus administration has been a bitch in letting us go out

we are not allowed to go out at all , unless there's a serious reason ( medical etc )

therefore .. i can't go visit any clubs or bars at nights and i can't even go out to the approach friendly places - it's bullshit but i gotta be patient and learn to refine myself until then and work on my fundamentals . I will be careful NOT to make the fundamentals an excuse - i have read that putting it off because of my slight belly will make me put it off later for some other reason x and so on .. so i will approach even if i am a fat ass or something ( i'm not but you get the point lol )

so onwards with the post ..

I hear alot of guys talking about approaches or dates that went great and you either got to bang the girl or do other naughty / sensual stuff with her , which is great ...

but i am compelled to ask some facts that are starker contrasts of the aforementioned statement

• Surely not all your dates go so well, right?
• And not all of your approaches go well either, right?
• Not every girl you go out with agrees to come home with you ( or take you to her place ) and bang ?

Respected senior , experienced members and friends , tell us and warn us about some of the pitfalls and any other aspects that we should be aware of when starting out in Day game and Night game

i am leaving out Social Circle game on purpose because i don't want to tarnish my reputation among people and friends who closely know me AND also .. there's the chance that for any reason a bitter woman might try to draw up false accusations / bullshit against me to damage my reputation and standing in the social circle - since i want to avoid all the bullshit drama i will strictly avoid gaming in social circle - instead keeping them around only for a healthy social life

Surely there's a darker side to all this ?

Would be great to hear and learn from your experience

Looking forward to some helpful and eye opening replies !

darker side of game in my opinion gaming longer than everybody in this forum probably consistently without almost any breaks (notice all of them can be avoided and there are ways around all of it):

- pregnancies, stds (this can be avoided with condoms, the problem is if you get really good, women won't make you wear them)

- False rape accusations (this is totally overblown, my lay count is really high, and i only got 1, and it was totally avoidable, cause she found out the forum, is very unlikely for this to happen unless you go for drunk women, you make them feel used and the likes) again this is from someone that finally got his first false rape.... Finally, i totally handle this in less than couple of text.- using ring cameras, using aliases/fake name, no giving your social media, using google voice, saving convos etc... would destroy this... community exaggerate this shit! again coming from someone that bangs tons of girls from cold approach in clubs...

- Addiction.- this is the main problem a lot of the guys get into drinking and drugs (this could be avoidable)... But women can be addictive as well, the game is seductive in itself... But this could be avoided to having a balance life after gaming stage (for most is couple of years)....

- lack of emotional per bond.- after having many women it may get harder for some to per bond, and you could develop an unhealthy view of women, see women as numbers, notchs... This could be avoided by actually going for women that you actually enjoy and get to know vs only looks (you could bang those but just keep as fuck bodies or one night stands).

- game could fuck with ambition.- you are able to get women without relying on many things other guys really heavily like providing material possessions or status and things like that... As much as some red pillers think this is soo important, at point of extraction women have no idea, what do you do for living? or how much money you make and the likes? they go by subcommunication and honest signals...

- clingers and stalkers.- This happens a lot and could bring a lot of stress and drama.- but for this to happened you have to be really good. Egging your cars, keying your car, making show in front of your house..

-husbands and boyfriends.- That you did not know about... Causes tons of issues

-car accidents.- if you are driving or ubber late at night drunk drivers... This is unnusual, but i spent 6k fixing my car got hit me parked at the club, drunk dudes also keying the car

-fights/arrests.- This is mainly night game more than day game, but happens in day game too like festivals...


^ so that is the real darkside of game imho

 

[trashKENNUT]

i'm sure Skills has put up a lot of great info. Here's more.

• Surely not all your dates go so well, right?

Yea.... She was awkward as a rock. In Asia, you will see this too often. She will also ask you about travel (amplifier/future state) but still be as awkward and avoid touching because she is just socially awkward.

• And not all of your approaches go well either, right?

Yea, awkwardness. Boyfriend thinks that i am stealing his girlfriend kind of shit. Physically Unblessed girls think that their market value is high. They think that they are Lamborghini when they are actually Fiat.

In case some idiot thinks that i judged ugly girls, i dated them.

Guys shove their shoulders from behind because they are pissed about some guy or something. Just club dynamics. You can be in the middle of an argument for no reason, and people don't see that there are people in the middle. lolx.

• Not every girl you go out with agrees to come home with you ( or take you to her place ) and bang ?

Definitely no. If there's one thing from Girlschase that all of us do not do all the time, it is fucking screening the girl.
Screen the girl = Less problems.

i am leaving out Social Circle game on purpose because i don't want to tarnish my reputation among people and friends who closely know me AND also .. there's the chance that for any reason a bitter woman might try to draw up false accusations / bullshit against me to damage my reputation and standing in the social circle - since i want to avoid all the bullshit drama i will strictly avoid gaming in social circle - instead keeping them around only for a healthy social life

Honest to God's truth, i sincerely don't think it is possible, day by day, to actually protect your reputation. I have had my reputation as a 'playboy' or 'player' or 'creepy' just by hearsay, even friends photos, that it's not even funny to me.

I really don't know where we are heading in this internet world.

But i do know this. As long as you solve people's problems, try to make people's lifes easier, actually try to help, and how you interact with others is how other people see you. People can laugh and mock you online temporarily. and you can fight them back and it's kinda fun and wastes your time.

As long as you kinda sincere with who you are and try not to fuck anyone so much, I have live a fairly decent life where i make close to zero enemies from females and males.

- False rape accusations (this is totally overblown, my lay count is really high, and i only got 1, and it was totally avoidable, cause she found out the forum, is very unlikely for this to happen unless you go for drunk women, you make them feel used and the likes) again this is from someone that finally got his first false rape.... Finally, i totally handle this in less than couple of text.- using ring cameras, using aliases/fake name, no giving your social media, using google voice, saving convos etc... would destroy this... community exaggerate this shit! again coming from someone that bangs tons of girls from cold approach in clubs...

YEap. Save texts and photos and everything. But she's crazy i guess if she only found out about the forum and start creating false rape accusations.

z@c+

 

[Yaxir]

But i do know this. As long as you solve people's problems, try to make people's lifes easier, actually try to help, and how you interact with others is how other people see you

These seem to be GREAT points !

I would love to know more but the best way would be if you actually made a mini-guide focused on this

i think i have barely seen a post about the paradigm of "how to protect your reputation when you're a daygame/nightgame player and tries to have sex with multiple women frequently"

People can laugh and mock you online temporarily. and you can fight them back and it's kinda fun and wastes your time.

This is a HORRIBLE waste of time , i wasted some of my teenage in this bullshit .. YUCK ! YUCK !

As long as you kinda sincere with who you are and try not to fuck anyone so much, I have live a fairly decent life where i make close to zero enemies from females and males

again, this is something relevant to Inner Game yeah ? please please make a mini guide on this - because most people don't know how to handle this

If there's one thing from Girlschase that all of us do not do all the time, it is fucking screening the girl.
Screen the girl = Less problems

is there a good GC article for this ?

thanks Zac , nice points !

 

[trashKENNUT]

I would love to know more but the best way would be if you actually made a mini-guide focused on this

I don't think this is necessary for i believe that there are articles better than mine, which i will link below.
In fact, how you respond to this post, is how other members sees you as well, ain't it? IF there's no need to be an ass, it's better not to.

i think i have barely seen a post about the paradigm of "how to protect your reputation when you're a daygame/nightgame player and tries to have sex with multiple women frequently"

Social Order, Sexual Restriction, and the Secret Society

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Why We Don’t Live in a Sexual Utopia

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again, this is something relevant to Inner Game yeah ? please please make a mini guide on this - because most people don't know how to handle this

I noted that you feel there's a need for a mini guide. It is important to note. Are you kinda stuck at understanding game, or girls or process of getting girls?

I think that you are trying to consume all at once, and well that be fine and good if that's what you want.

is there a good GC article for this ?

Passive Screening in Relationships

Once you’ve begun seeing a girl on a fairly regular basis, or you think you will likely start seeing her soon, you should be doing a lot of what I call passive screening in addition to any other screening you’re doing. What’s passive screening? It is, quite simply, watching and learning. Keeping...

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I hope this helps. It is important to know where is it that you are stuck, and break the thing in small so that you will be able to point out where your actual problems are..

It works for me. I think that a mini guide will not help you. Rather, the focus is seeing the full map, first. This is my opinion.

z@c+

 

[Yaxir]

In fact, how you respond to this post, is how other members sees you as well, ain't it? IF there's no need to be an ass, it's better not to.

thanks ! this makes so much sense !

it's all about carrying yourself - or at least that's an oversimplified version of it lol

I'll take a look at all the articles

I noted that you feel there's a need for a mini guide. It is important to note. Are you kinda stuck at understanding game, or girls or process of getting girls?

well .. since i moved , i have been trying to get better fundamentals ( lose belly , develop decent body and any other good habits that at least make me stand out )

i got a bone injury recently so a lot of physical exercise is on hold AND that language barrier is just adding to my anxiety

apart from that .. well , it's kinda shit here - we can't go out and can't really do night game because of stupid rules / restrictions

so .. i'm stuck and still focusing on theory , which brings me to;

I think that you are trying to consume all at once, and well that be fine and good if that's what you want

This is bad or so i have heard .. i need some practice as well , be it a scathing rejection from a girl who is freaked out ( i highly doubt it'll be that bad lol but you get the point heh ) , a nice smile + " sorry i have a boyfriend " or a number - i need to get out into the field but right now it's all BS because of the restrictions

so instead - i am 'overdosing' on game and seduction theory and Dating Apps have been a disaster here ( girls don't reply or think wayy too highly of themselves )

so this is my current state .. and this got me thinking about the Dark Side of Game , hence this post

Thanks Zac , i'll check everything out in time