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TrailBlazer

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The women in my life always give priority to their friends, families, hobbies… before me. And I eat the scraps!

How do I ask to be their priority without looking needy?

You might say “just become more attractive” but I’ve used pretty much every technique for attraction and comfort in the book on these women! All the gambits, everything! And I’m still being forgotten.

And these women have other guys for whom they’d drop anything. So, how do you become that?
 

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And these women have other guys for whom they’d drop anything. So, how do you become that?

Great fundamentals and great sex.

Gambits are for getting an outcome from a particular situation, they aren't a way of creating long term investment.

How do I ask to be their priority without looking needy?

You don't.
 

TrailBlazer

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Great fundamentals and great sex.

Gambits are for getting an outcome from a particular situation, they aren't a way of creating long term investment.

Fundamentals, that could be anything though. In this case, do you mean your personality? Because I think my personality is tuned up by using all the gambits and everything, so they must see me as an attractive guy already.

Maybe living in abundance? The guys who the women crush on aren’t that amazing!

There is some small piece that I’m missing..
 

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Not quite. You’re thinking about it quite logically.

Example:
1. Socially uncalibrated guy, who is feeling a little nervous but suppressing it and using techniques and tactics such as sexual gambits, cold reads instead of feeling the experience.
His focus and mindset is: if I do X,Y,Z technique and gambit combo she MUST be attracted to me by the end of it.

2. Guy with good social fundamentals, who is feeling nervous but owning it and just going with the flow and calibrating to the woman in front of him. He’ll ask some questions, if she seems interested, he’ll give her more attention, and open up more to her as a reward. He may use cold reads, or sexual gambits but it’s because he picked up on something she said and wanted to make an observation or because he wanted to test whether she’d be receptive to opening up more

His focus and mindset is:
she is attractive, I wonder what she is like (attracted)
- oh she seems interesting I want to know more about her (curiosity),
- that’s an interesting vibe she has (observant) leading to the cold reads
- we’re connecting quite well and she is into the moment let’s escalate and see where this goes (perhaps leading to sexual gambits).

Social fundamentals would be the area to focus on. Try to connect with everyone across different age groups, focus on them, be curious about them, what lights them up, and see if you can connect with them about this. Remember even if you have not done the same activities/hobbies as them you should be able to relate to their feelings about it.
 

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Fundamentals, that could be anything though. In this case, do you mean your personality? Because I think my personality is tuned up by using all the gambits and everything, so they must see me as an attractive guy already.

No. gambits don't 'tune up' your personality. They are specific routines designed to elicit a specific reaction. They aren't some kind of health potion that adds XP to all your attributes when you don't really know what you are doing.

What I mean is her moment-to-moment experience of you, and the impression that is left in her mind after you are gone. It's a function of your attributes (voice, posture, eye contact etc etc), your frame control, your seduction skills, and how well you fuck her (to be fair, all this is a bit more than fundamentals per se).

Does she think about you? Does she desire more of your attention and presence and cock? Does she feel excitement around you? Does she feel submissive around you? Does she feel that she has to chase you because you aren't quite in her grasp? If she feels those things, then other options will pale in comparison.

Maybe living in abundance? The guys who the women crush on aren’t that amazing!

That surely helps. But then again you don't know what her experience of him is, you only know your own.

How about laying out a specific situation to get advice for by writing a field report? I have the sense that you are asking for solutions to vague problems, instead of honing in on improving a specific outcome or skillset.
 

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You let them get away with it, the other guys don't. Abundance is not the girls wonting you, it is realizing that they do! My second date invited me to her dorm room and told me her roommate spent the nights in her boyfriends room. I thought things were going well and thought it would only take one month to get a second date (I'd been trying for a second date from my first for 3 months). I was very naive, and had tried learning from the 2nd worst book on dating I have ever read (you don't want to hear about the worst.)
 

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The women in my life always give priority to their friends, families, hobbies… before me. And I eat the scraps!

How do I ask to be their priority without looking needy?

You might say “just become more attractive” but I’ve used pretty much every technique for attraction and comfort in the book on these women! All the gambits, everything! And I’m still being forgotten.

And these women have other guys for whom they’d drop anything. So, how do you become that?

sex and time spent with them, the more time they spend/experience you, the more they will get invested... In your case you are very needy, the neediness they will feel and back fired.... you are too invested in them more than they are in you, seducers reach base level mainly through sex and attractive behavior and unique experiences, then they flip the investment dynamic.... when you are needy this does not happen, but you double down neediness and the pull back investment even more...

you being the girl first priority is a seducers nightmare... who the fuck wants that, i can tell you never had this, so you don't understand how horrible that is... i am talking about life priority, no sexual priority (seducers get by default sexual priority)
 

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I am getting the impression that @TrailBlazer is not talking about women he is sleeping with.

@TrailBlazer: like the other guys here said, you become her priority by dicking her down well and becoming the man she fixes upon as "her man."

I don't know the story with you vs. "the other guys girls are crushing on" but either those guys are dicking them down and you just don't know it, or you're talking about "how to be the popular heartthrob all the girls crush on."

Those are two very different things... making her ACTUALLY prioritize you vs. making her crush on you because you're so funny/cool/smart/sexy/handsome/popular/whatever it is she likes about you, etc.

(And newsflash: in social circle, the most crushed-on guys are the most popular and the most sexily mysterious. If the girls are all whispering about you behind your back, talking about how you are so mysterious, asking each other if you are dating anyone, where you go when you are not around, etc., etc. trying to figure out all the mysteries you sow as you build your mystique, that is how you become every girl's crush. I did it in middle school and high school... after that I was over it though... it is more fun fucking girls than being the "maybe someday we could be together!" heartthrob.)

Chase
 

TrailBlazer

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I am getting the impression that @TrailBlazer is not talking about women he is sleeping with.

@TrailBlazer: like the other guys here said, you become her priority by dicking her down well and becoming the man she fixes upon as "her man."

I don't know the story with you vs. "the other guys girls are crushing on" but either those guys are dicking them down and you just don't know it, or you're talking about "how to be the popular heartthrob all the girls crush on."

Those are two very different things... making her ACTUALLY prioritize you vs. making her crush on you because you're so funny/cool/smart/sexy/handsome/popular/whatever it is she likes about you, etc.

(And newsflash: in social circle, the most crushed-on guys are the most popular and the most sexily mysterious. If the girls are all whispering about you behind your back, talking about how you are so mysterious, asking each other if you are dating anyone, where you go when you are not around, etc., etc. trying to figure out all the mysteries you sow as you build your mystique, that is how you become every girl's crush. I did it in middle school and high school... after that I was over it though... it is more fun fucking girls than being the "maybe someday we could be together!" heartthrob.)

Chase

I’ll be honest. I’d rather be the crushed on guy who doesn’t fuck. For me currently, the validation feels better than sex. I’m working on it, but for now it is what it is.

So I’m very interested in how to become the mysterious guy you were in high school. Is that the “desireless, excellent, gone” approach here? And how can I become that if I’m doing all of that to gain their approval - so out of neediness?

(If I wasn’t needy for approval I wouldn’t even have the goal of becoming women’s crush!)

Also, important question: how do you remain respect and don’t become disgusted by people who are interested in your life (people who thought were higher value than you)? I wouldn’t want to be around people who are “below” me.
 
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There is some small piece that I’m missing..

Get your own life going. Having your own life and priorities is much more attractive to other people than having someone sit around waiting on them. And for you, it gives you a break from falling into the PUA/love/relationship is my life trap.
 

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Also, important question: how do you remain respect and don’t become disgusted by people who are interested in your life (people who thought were higher value than you)? I wouldn’t want to be around people who are “below” me.

By focusing on the person behind the need instead of the need. Focus on who someone is as a person, besided the need or desire they express towards you. Get to know what they do for others and what they do for you. Learn from.them from the good habits they have or the good insights they can give you.


Yes I am bad at that, but you can become better than me 🙃
 

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Man I will just say it with every good intention, because I’ve passed from similar stages myself.

After reading most of your latest threads the biggest issue is that you seem to fully internalise this identity of being needy.

At this point it feels that you are rejecting any possibility of true growth and you want to use all the different external tactics in order to escape facing what exists inside.

Making progress like this is extremely difficult and in the end not only you will still know what you deeply feel about yourself , but it will also become apparent to the people around you.

The goal is not to be the needy desperate guy that expertly hides it and tricks guys into respecting him and girls into sleeping with him.

It is to become cool and content with yourself to the point that those who don’t recognise your value are the ones losing.
 
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Great post above by Chris.

As for me, all I can say after decades of living in NYC, Miami, et al, is that the better I did at life, the more confident I grew, the hotter and more women that were attracted to me. Level up. That will eliminate most of the insecurity and neediness, but not all of it.

Women will be attracted to you when you're worth them being attracted to you. No tricks. No head games. If you're not genuinely worth their time and effort, fix that. Of course some women will never be interested in you/your type and that's fine! There's a million fish in the sea.
 

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Trailblazer... My man… Right now you’re basically standing in line at the buffet, staring at the shrimp cocktail, whispering to yourself: “Why doesn’t the shrimp notice me? Why does shrimp look tastier for Chad over there?” Meanwhile Chad is already back for round two, plate piled high, because Chad didn’t stand around negotiating shrimp’s priorities—he just grabbed a plate.

Except... You never ask to be her priority. That’s like asking the nightclub bouncer: “Sir, could you please respect my inner value and let me in?” The bouncer doesn’t care. He cares if you look like you belong inside.

You keep talking about “gambits.” Gambits are like learning magic tricks to impress your friends. Sure, the first time you pull a rabbit out of a hat, everyone claps. By the third time, they’re yawning and asking if you’ve got Wi-Fi.

So, look. Let me be very frank with you. It sounds like you’re worried that unless you’re her number one, then you’re a nobody. And that tells me the real issue: this isn’t about women at all, is it, Trailblazer. It’s about you needing to feel chosen.

You don’t become a woman’s priority by standing there with your bowl out, hoping she ladles you some affection. That’s scraps, and scraps never taste good. What actually works is when you’re already living like a full-course meal—busy, glowing, full of flavour—and she thinks, “Damn, how do I get a seat at his table?”

Sure. Validation feels like oxygen right now. It's a drop of water in the desert. But it's actually poison. Because the more you chase it, the less it shows up. Women can smell approval-hunting like dogs smell fear. You have to flip it around and make your own life rich enough that you are the prize, and suddenly she’s the one rearranging plans to get a piece of your time.

It’s not about begging for priority. It’s about being so centred, so lit up in your own lane, that she naturally re-prioritizes herself around you. That’s the fun paradox—you stop asking, and that’s when it happens. But for that to happen, you've also got to have the self-respect to walk away if you don't feel it.

And I've got some bad new for you right now... Most have to hit rock bottom before they get there. And then, just as they give up, suddenly women swarm all over them. But you've got one leg up on all those losers. You've got this forum of Don Juans and Casanovas rooting for you and aching to help you.

So read this very carefully—and what most of the others in this thread already said with other words: women don’t crush on guys because they mastered the “cold read gambit” or perfected the “tantric touch routine.” They crush on guys who walk into the room like they’re already the main course.

So stop asking how to be her priority. Be the guy whose presence makes her re-prioritize all by herself. Your most important question isn't how to be her prio. It's how do I become a self-accomplished man? Or ask us, we might have some pointers too. But to answer your question with one short sentence: You start focussing more on your own mission, and that mission cannot getting validation from anyone but yourself.

With that said. If you're in this more for the validation than sex, you better start reading Zan Perrion. But I warn you, he eats shrimps for breakfast, cuz he knows how to peel them!
 

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I am getting the impression that @TrailBlazer is not talking about women he is sleeping with.

@TrailBlazer: like the other guys here said, you become her priority by dicking her down well and becoming the man she fixes upon as "her man."

I don't know the story with you vs. "the other guys girls are crushing on" but either those guys are dicking them down and you just don't know it, or you're talking about "how to be the popular heartthrob all the girls crush on."

Those are two very different things... making her ACTUALLY prioritize you vs. making her crush on you because you're so funny/cool/smart/sexy/handsome/popular/whatever it is she likes about you, etc.

(And newsflash: in social circle, the most crushed-on guys are the most popular and the most sexily mysterious. If the girls are all whispering about you behind your back, talking about how you are so mysterious, asking each other if you are dating anyone, where you go when you are not around, etc., etc. trying to figure out all the mysteries you sow as you build your mystique, that is how you become every girl's crush. I did it in middle school and high school... after that I was over it though... it is more fun fucking girls than being the "maybe someday we could be together!" heartthrob.)

Chase
Oh facepalm! I thought he was banging
 

TrailBlazer

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Get your own life going. Having your own life and priorities is much more attractive to other people than having someone sit around waiting on them. And for you, it gives you a break from falling into the PUA/love/relationship is my life trap.

If I had my own life going, I wouldn’t care about becoming anyone’s priority. I would be my own priority. But I don’t want that, that sounds very lonely. I have the huge emotional void inside and I want someone special to come and fill it.

That’s my hope for a better life. I don’t want to be the lonely “detective from a TV series” type of guy with a dog and whiskey addiction.

And during the times I was my own priority and had women, it didn’t fill that void at all. It wasn’t like finding replacement parents and healing the trauma. Which is what my brain is after, unfortunately but also logically.
 

TrailBlazer

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Trailblazer... My man… Right now you’re basically standing in line at the buffet, staring at the shrimp cocktail, whispering to yourself: “Why doesn’t the shrimp notice me? Why does shrimp look tastier for Chad over there?” Meanwhile Chad is already back for round two, plate piled high, because Chad didn’t stand around negotiating shrimp’s priorities—he just grabbed a plate.

Except... You never ask to be her priority. That’s like asking the nightclub bouncer: “Sir, could you please respect my inner value and let me in?” The bouncer doesn’t care. He cares if you look like you belong inside.

You keep talking about “gambits.” Gambits are like learning magic tricks to impress your friends. Sure, the first time you pull a rabbit out of a hat, everyone claps. By the third time, they’re yawning and asking if you’ve got Wi-Fi.

So, look. Let me be very frank with you. It sounds like you’re worried that unless you’re her number one, then you’re a nobody. And that tells me the real issue: this isn’t about women at all, is it, Trailblazer. It’s about you needing to feel chosen.

You don’t become a woman’s priority by standing there with your bowl out, hoping she ladles you some affection. That’s scraps, and scraps never taste good. What actually works is when you’re already living like a full-course meal—busy, glowing, full of flavour—and she thinks, “Damn, how do I get a seat at his table?”

Sure. Validation feels like oxygen right now. It's a drop of water in the desert. But it's actually poison. Because the more you chase it, the less it shows up. Women can smell approval-hunting like dogs smell fear. You have to flip it around and make your own life rich enough that you are the prize, and suddenly she’s the one rearranging plans to get a piece of your time.

It’s not about begging for priority. It’s about being so centred, so lit up in your own lane, that she naturally re-prioritizes herself around you. That’s the fun paradox—you stop asking, and that’s when it happens. But for that to happen, you've also got to have the self-respect to walk away if you don't feel it.

And I've got some bad new for you right now... Most have to hit rock bottom before they get there. And then, just as they give up, suddenly women swarm all over them. But you've got one leg up on all those losers. You've got this forum of Don Juans and Casanovas rooting for you and aching to help you.

So read this very carefully—and what most of the others in this thread already said with other words: women don’t crush on guys because they mastered the “cold read gambit” or perfected the “tantric touch routine.” They crush on guys who walk into the room like they’re already the main course.

So stop asking how to be her priority. Be the guy whose presence makes her re-prioritize all by herself. Your most important question isn't how to be her prio. It's how do I become a self-accomplished man? Or ask us, we might have some pointers too. But to answer your question with one short sentence: You start focussing more on your own mission, and that mission cannot getting validation from anyone but yourself.

With that said. If you're in this more for the validation than sex, you better start reading Zan Perrion. But I warn you, he eats shrimps for breakfast, cuz he knows how to peel them!

So basically I can’t count on becoming someone’s priority as the missing piece to my life. Because if I crave it, it won’t happen, and if I won’t need it, I won’t want it anymore.

But that’s a sad realisation. It means I will always be emotionally (in the deepest emptiest layers of pain) lonely, because no one will fill that void.

I’m sorry but to keep functional, I have to hold on to that hope that if I become good enough, someone will come and make me their priority, like a parent would. The hope for this is why I live. I can’t imagine the emptiness of having just myself.

A very good comment though, thank you.
 
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