What happened here during this call?

[Fluxcapacitor]

Dudes! So texting wasn't working out with this fuck buddy but I had better luck when I called her a couple weeks back, she was open to sexual topics in the call where she wasn't previously on text. She had another mood swing and after defusing it I stopped messaging for a week and decided to call instead.

Start off with typical small talk, share a story with her, done a little self deprecating humour to counter balance some arrogance. She was interested in the arrogance, she laughed at the humour cause I had her hooked all working well.

Conversation changed to another topic cutting back to an old thread. I told her the last time I done that I ended up back at her place (we've had sex everytime we've been in her place) and this intrigued her

Her: oh really? (Playful/sexy/sultry tone)
Flux: yeah, it was the night you wore XXXX
Her: giggles yeah it ended up in a state
Flux: you looked so sexy that night
Her: giggles
Flux: we made a right mess (some detail)
Her: giggles we made a mess (girly)
Flux: we had a fun night
Her: giggles messy fun (girly)
Flux: what was your favourite part? (Not my best question but she's asked this before)
Her: oh I don't know, I can't remember honestly it feels so long ago (her mood changed here, well this is a disaster, am I that forgetful? Guarantee I'm the best she's ever had just from her reaction after)(all is not lost I can swing this back)
Flux: it's been far too long, with the restrictions being lifted I think we need a refresher soon
Her: we can't meet though can we? (Blunt)
Flux: you can meet with another house
Her: you have to be socially distanced (blunt)
Flux: social bubble? (Bit of a loophole)
Her: I have a bubble. XXXXX is my bubble. (Blunt) We've already met, I've been in her house, in her car, we've hugged
Flux: okay, that's cool. Sounds like you're both having a lot of fun anyway

The conversation continues just to not end it on a shit note. She ends all girly when she said bye but the above didn't feel good to me. I'm left thinking well I can't call her again. Just a total disaster dudes. I don't know how she went from being into the sexual part of the chat to being so blunt.

Any ideas what I could have done better? Thanks dudes!

 

[Derek da man]

This is just my opinion so others will have very different views.

I find girls tend to "cycle" though different emotions within a conversation and as they cycle there's marked shifts in their receptiveness to certain topics, sex being the big one. In the right frame of mind you can get away with lots of discussions and even verbal escalations. This is very different from men. While we may move conversation topics around we generally stay in the same emotional state.

If a girl is horny you can move things along quite quickly, if she isn't horny you have to work very hard to get her into a sexual frame. Unless her hormones are making her remain horny she will cycle out of the state fairly quickly which is what was happening in your conversation.

You'll need to pick a time when she's horny due to hormones and then you'll stand a good chance of escalating from a sexual vibe to agreeing a meeting.

 

[Velasco]

Flux: it's been far too long, with the restrictions being lifted I think we need a refresher soon
Her: we can't meet though can we? (Blunt)
Flux: you can meet with another house
Her: you have to be socially distanced (blunt)
Flux: social bubble? (Bit of a loophole)
Her: I have a bubble. XXXXX is my bubble. (Blunt) We've already met, I've been in her house, in her car, we've hugged
Flux: okay, that's cool. Sounds like you're both having a lot of fun anyway

"you can meet with another house" - what does this mean? housemate?

and are you only allowed one social bubble? can you explain how this loophole work?

Also

Her: oh I don't know, I can't remember honestly it feels so long ago (her mood changed here, well this is a disaster, am I that forgetful? Guarantee I'm the best she's ever had just from her reaction after)(all is not lost I can swing this back)

Woulda coulda shoulda here, but I'd have bust her balls here for forgetting this(maybe something self deprecating), to get her to qualify herself so that shed be more compliant to your follow up compliance test/soft close.

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

@Derek da man dude! Thanks, didn't even think of this in my experience if they're hooked on the sexual topic they never flip like this. I can face resistance but not a total mood change.

@Velasco dude! Meet with another house means another household. 2 households can meet at one time, indoors, (any number of people, but social distance to be maintained where possible - there's a caveat to this).

You're only allowed one social bubble, which can be a maximum of one other household, you can physically interact with these people and you are considered one household.

The loophole here is 2 households can meet at once, if this is 2 social bubbles then technically it's 4 households. Technically 2 households can meet so you're not picking favourites with grandparents but this means 2 households can now interact (the caveat), but only the social bubble is permitted to stay the night.

So I either leave after (not an issue) or she considers me the social bubble and her friend as another household. Dancing around the rules a little as you can't change social bubbles once you're in one (they're not publically named or official anyway), but if you haven't used it to it's full effect anyway you're not exploiting the rules either.

 

[Velasco]

I don't know how she went from being into the sexual part of the chat to being so blunt.

Her: we can't meet though can we? (Blunt)

To me this was her saying she was down to meet you (not a mood change issue), but didn't know there was a way how (especially considering she's already got a social bubble) (that flirting sexual vibing shit was fine earlier because she thought you guys couldn't up meet anyway. But then when you suggesting you guys meet up, she's like, "huh?"). so you'd have to explain the loophole to her.

she considers me the social bubble and her friend as another household. Dancing around the rules a little as you can't change social bubbles once you're in one (they're not publically named or official anyway), but if you haven't used it to it's full effect anyway you're not exploiting the rules either.

So I'd text her in about a week from this exchange (unless she texts you first), "hey (fb nickname)". warm her up. then: "so I've figured something out. but its a bit cheeky (or whatever you UK guys use) you want to hear it?"

"remember how you told me XXXX was your bubble? blah blah blah - explain the loophole. then set it up.

Course if it doesn't work or you've got a better idea, give it a shot and let us know how it goes. Good luck

 

[Fluxcapacitor]

@Velasco dude thanks! I was prepared to explain the loophole today but her blunt tone, especially when saying her friend was her bubble seemed very stern and that she didn't want to meet. It caught me off guard for how receptive she was I didn't expect a kickback.

Cheeky is used in the UK, at least I use it but appreciate the consideration dude. The only other idea I have is to drop her haha I'll keep you updated, thanks dude