What is a high value/quality woman in your view?

[Mensa Reject]

Hi all

I'm a girl and stumbled across Girls Chase when searching for something on Google (I forgot what!) a few months ago and this website came up in the search results. At first when reading the website/forum a part of me was like what is this (?!) however as I've been reading more of the articles and the discussions on the forum I've come to realise that the vast majority of the members on the forum have balanced views on male/female dynamics/relationships with insightful perspectives on the various topics discussed. Hence why I've decided to post this question (after quite a bit of deliberation and hesitancy to post).

The description 'high quality/value woman' is commonly stated on this site as well as over Youtube/social channels (akin to the high value man). What in your view is a high quality girl? Is that related to what are referred to as (female equivalent) 'fundamentals' on here? Would appreciate your views.

Thank you!

 

[S.S Can]

brooo they're coming out of the woodwork

 

[Teevster]

Hi all

I'm a girl and stumbled across Girls Chase when searching for something on Google (I forgot what!) a few months ago and this website came up in the search results. At first when reading the website/forum a part of me was like what is this (?!) however as I've been reading more of the articles and the discussions on the forum I've come to realise that the vast majority of the members on the forum have balanced views on male/female dynamics/relationships with insightful perspectives on the various topics discussed. Hence why I've decided to post this question (after quite a bit of deliberation and hesitancy to post).

The description 'high quality/value woman' is commonly stated on this site as well as over Youtube/social channels (akin to the high value man). What in your view is a high quality girl? Is that related to what are referred to as (female equivalent) 'fundamentals' on here? Would appreciate your views.

Thank you!

Welcome aboard.

Of course, this is quite subjective, as you might have guessed, but I don’t think that’s the answer you were looking for. To be a bit more objective, I believe it really depends on what we refer to here as social frame—the overall perception of the social reality a “seducer” finds himself in: what he values, what he finds attractive in a woman, and how a woman can reflect back and contribute to his social perception of high value (making him look good within his socio-cultural demographic).

Regarding sex, if a man values chastity, he will see a more “conservative” woman as higher value (and some men do). Others, like myself, tend to appreciate strong, independent women who embrace their sexuality and live authentically.

I think the concept of social frame applies equally to women—what women consider “high-value men” varies depending on their socio-cultural background and the social sphere they operate within.

Of course, it’s not all nurture—there may be some genetics involved as well.

For your sake, and without putting words in your mouth, I assume you’re asking: How can I know what men like, and how can I convey it? The simple answer (at least in theory) is that we teach men to find ways to elicit what women want, and to convey traits that match her mental model.

This, of course, raises questions about congruence—do you really want to be a social chameleon and act in ways that don’t align with who you are? That’s a very subjective question. You can always walk away if what a woman seeks clashes with what you want as a man (and vice versa). There’s nothing wrong with that, and often, in my opinion, it’s the right call.

I hope this brings some clarity.

It is an anthropological question, which in my opinion requires an anthropological approach to resolve.

-Teevster

PS: love the username.

 

[Spike]

High value girl = Hot + Low body count + High social status

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

The kind of High value girl that appeals to most men is simple:

Good looking(the least required but still important) + low body count + low traumatic pass + loyalty (lower propensity to cheat) + Teachable (men don't like women who barely follow instructions)


There are other things like cooking, sex etc. But those things are a bit more subjective than the ones above. The list above will give you a the widest appeal to most men

 

[topcat]

Attractive with unconventional looks. Unique but competent sense of style. Intelligent, open minded & lateral thinker. Independent. Confident. Sexually open and exploratory. Ideally queer leaning. Tall. Disagreeable.

 

[KJ Francis]

Others, like myself, tend to appreciate strong, independent women who embrace their sexuality and live authentically.

Why do I feel like this contrasting view should be stickied somewhere... Hmm...

 

[MuST0BtA1NSkR1Lla]

Hi all

I'm a girl and stumbled across Girls Chase when searching for something on Google (I forgot what!) a few months ago and this website came up in the search results. At first when reading the website/forum a part of me was like what is this (?!) however as I've been reading more of the articles and the discussions on the forum I've come to realise that the vast majority of the members on the forum have balanced views on male/female dynamics/relationships with insightful perspectives on the various topics discussed. Hence why I've decided to post this question (after quite a bit of deliberation and hesitancy to post).

The description 'high quality/value woman' is commonly stated on this site as well as over Youtube/social channels (akin to the high value man). What in your view is a high quality girl? Is that related to what are referred to as (female equivalent) 'fundamentals' on here? Would appreciate your views.

Thank you!

Depends on what I need accomplished. For what tends to be the best for me is usually pretty straight forward.

- Ability to do things; I do quite abit for myself even though I have hired help for other stuff. It’s always awesome when they are able to do tasks without me being a pseudo baby sitter.

- Have some sort of assets. *[And by this I mostly mean property] Self explanatory but have some contribution to assets I got rich later in life so it irks me to no end when my dates think they are entitled to it.

- Looks but this one is so default I’ll add in a sprinkle in that I appreciate a sexy accent or women who can sing etc….

 

[mirror]

My 2cents?

For me, a high value woman would be someone that dares to be different than the others and does not allow her circle to make up her opinion. She can be influenced but not spoken for by others. She is someone that's not afraid to show up for me but at the same time has her own life, interests and hobbies going. I am an addition to her life and she is an addition to mine.
She is open-minded, but states clearly what she wants and needs. She forgives easily and loves fiercely, and is passionate.

She is smart and calls out my crap, but in such a way that I can't even pretend that it's not crap.
She is feminine in such a way that I can't help but notice without being able to figure out what it is about her.
She is sexual, but more importantly, when it's serious, she is loyal and allows me to figure out how to get her where I want her.

Last of all: she doesn't need to ask me what I consider high quality, because she sets the bar for herself and surprises me with the outcome, each and every time.

Sexually? We are compatible.

And for me?
She needs to be one step ahead of me emotionally. She will know what I need, even when I myself did not realize. In turn I do the same for her emotionally and sexually.

In general as a tip for you: Look for someone that enriches your life.
On the way there you will find tons of people that do not.
If you find such a person that enriches your life, you will know what hé values.

 

[Skills]

Tbh we are all going to go in circles i talk to spike about this for 5 years...

And we just went in circles...

To op i recommend you max out your looks as a women beauty is the main factor.... Follow by good sexual skills and subcommunicate loyalty, faifulness... Etc... Again is subjective....

I think op you mentioned YouTube most none sense, basically saying high value dudes 6 figures, 6 pack, 6 horse engine, 6 feet... And the high value wants a loyal low count that allowed them to cheat etc... Is s bunch of none sense from fresh and fit and tate and the likes ignore the none sense is pure trolling

 

[Mensa Reject]

I should have said when I posted, wasn't here to cause arguments, seen enough with @Skills and @Spike . (Jesting!)

 

[Mensa Reject]

Thanks all, for your responses.

@Teevster, your response has given me food for thought. I hadn't quite thought of this topic in the context of anthropology but you are right I suppose it is that.

I knew there would be subjective elements as to what is high value. My question was more geared towards the objective elements in the sense that what I think this website ultimately teaches men is self improvement, work on being the best you can (looks, career, personality, attributes etc) as well as the skill being 'game'. Yes there are subjective elements to that, such as looks (so many discussions on how mens opinions on what is a 10 differs amongst themselves) but there are objective elements that perhaps are attractive in both sexes such as confidence, intelligence? So what would be the equivalent for women (to be the best I can be and in the process I attract the type of guy I want).

@Spike, what do you mean by high social status? Is that what Teevster has said above re the social frame?

 

[West_Indian_Archie]

What in your view is a high quality girl?

1) Looks gets the girl in the door. But for me at least, looking at the same pretty face just fades.

2) What she does for me (that *I* want done) is what keeps her in the house, and keeps me doing my best for her.

In my experience, a girlfriend will do a lot of things with you in mind - and they add that to their mental calculus of what you "owe" them - but it's often stuff that you don't care about. (don't even get me started on the sham argument of unpaid household labor)

One of my exes, arguing while we were breaking up, said "I missed out on spending time with my cat for you"

Like IGAF about her and her damn cat. Her choosing me over her cat, was not something I wanted her to do.

 

[James D]

High quality girl= Hot + Low body count (1 or 2 max, ideally from relationships ) + Pleasant personality (not rude or passive aggressive) + Happiness (no depressed chicks) + Mentally stable + Virtuous

 

[James D]

I should have said when I posted, wasn't here to cause arguments, seen enough with @Skills and @Spike . (Jesting!)

Not your fault, happens all the time. It's only bad when it derails from OP's post, which hopefully it doesn't this time

 

[PaulieFlyn10]

Thanks all, for your responses.

@Teevster, your response has given me food for thought. I hadn't quite thought of this topic in the context of anthropology but you are right I suppose it is that.

I knew there would be subjective elements as to what is high value. My question was more geared towards the objective elements in the sense that what I think this website ultimately teaches men is self improvement, work on being the best you can (looks, career, personality, attributes etc) as well as the skill being 'game'. Yes there are subjective elements to that, such as looks (so many discussions on how mens opinions on what is a 10 differs amongst themselves) but there are objective elements that perhaps are attractive in both sexes such as confidence, intelligence? So what would be the equivalent for women (to be the best I can be and in the process I attract the type of guy I want).

@Spike, what do you mean by high social status? Is that what Teevster has said above re the social frame?

Yeah... it happens all the time. One thing I've realized when you throw a group of men the question of: "what do you think a high value girl is" most men tend to list out their preferences of what they like (which won't give you a real objective view)


A much more focused question is: "what would a girl do/say that would significantly drop her value in your eyes" SIMILARLY... "what would you find about a girl that would significantly drop her value in your eyes"

When you get the answers just take opposite.

And it's usually the same for most men:

- Looks. Men love attractive women.

- low body count.
The large majority of men absolutely do not want high body counts


- loyalty.
Pretty straightforward.

-no traumatic past
History of tearing up your ex tyres, stabbing him don't give you any good points


- Teachable basically ready to learn what you like/don't like and make improvements

These have been the most consistent I've seen with men

 

[TomInHo]

What in your view is a high quality girl?

You are going to get a lot of answers all over the map here. But if we break it down to the most fundamental thing you need as a woman

JUST BE HOT

Even if you are not perfect on other things, when a woman is hot enough a lot of men are more willing to deal with her flaws

Don't even need to have a great personality, because if you're hot enough to the man that's often good enough

For example. . .

HOT pornstars are able to get partners that look past their promiscuity

HOT goldiggers are able to get partners that look past their transactional attitudes toward relationships

HOT women that suck in bed can still land partners even though their sexual skills aren't top notch. He may even try to train you lol

HOT bitches are able to get partners that can look past their disagreeableness

HOT virgins are able to get partners to look past their lack of sexual experience

HOT boring girls are able to get partners to look past their lack of charm

HOT broke women are able to get partners that look past their lack of money and will even support them

So as a woman focus on getting HOT as fuck, and then settle with a dude that's more accepting of your flaws. Trust me, in that scenarios you will have no lack of choice

 

[TomInHo]

And it's usually the same for most men:

- Looks. Men love attractive women.

True

- low body count.
The large majority of men absolutely do not want high body counts

- loyalty.
Pretty straightforward.

-no traumatic past
History of tearing up your ex tyres, stabbing him don't give you any good points

- Teachable basically ready to learn what you like/don't like and make improvements

These have been the most consistent I've seen with men

But I have also seen men that wifed up women that had NONE of these qualities

A lot of men SAY they want that, but often when then land a woman that's way above in looks of what they usually get a lot of these traits can get thrown out the window

Just my observation but the average man is willing to bend on these things if the woman is his perfect 10

In fact I have a good friend now that is going through this

His woman does not have a low body count. She is not loyal because they had a break and she slept with a few men during that time. She is not teachable and they often get into arguments because she won't "listen"

She doesn't seem to have a very traumatic past though but still

And yet even with all these flaws he is still trying to get her pregnant... Why?

Because she is his perfect 10, and he also told me he valued all those qualities because he watches a lot of redpill content

But when he found a partner hot enough all those qualities he said he wanted were completely thrown in the trash lol

 

[Spike]

when a woman is hot enough a lot of men are more willing to deal with her flaws

The question was directed towards you. Not what she needs to do to get a man to want to get into a serious long term relationship with her. Would YOU get into a serious long term relationship (not a situationship)with a hot girl who is

Mentally unstable/disagreeable/promiscuous etc etc.

Or are there other traits you look for in a girl besides looks, that you factor into the equation, of someone who you would settle down with for a long term serious relationship.

 

[TomInHo]

The question was directed towards you. Not what she needs to do to get a man to want to get into a serious long term relationship with her. Would YOU get into a serious long term relationship (not a situationship)with a hot girl who is

Mentally unstable/disagreeable/promiscuous etc etc.

Me personally NO, but I can't deny that when a woman was attractive enough I was tempted to bend my standards or try to find ways to make it "work" hoping that she will change or I could mold her

When you get very attracted to a woman as a man your IQ points can severely drop. I am not immune to behaving irrational sometimes and have seen many men behave the same