What is your STRONGEST motivation for seduction

[Skills]

I did in RIP nextasf a survey on 2015 on what type of women body type seducers like, since there were sooo many ridiculous fights about taste (Now a days, same shit, like your dick gives a fuck of what some other dude in the internet likes), here are the results.... Today I want to do the same for my own seduction control trial funded by my autism.... here is the answer by @Chase i will add one for the blackdragon/Caleb Jones types at the end, i will call it sexual rotation comfort (part of mission-driven but chase explanation was limited so i put this in there):

"Based on my conversations the various primary motivations appear to be:

• Emotional conquest: what @James Cruse talks about in the OP.
• Sexual conquest: this is the guy who loves scoring notches, flags, etc. for their own sake.
• Pleasure: the guy who is just addicted to the feel of a new warm pussy wrapped around his dick.
• Validation: the guy who needs to be continually revalidated by (sexually) approving women.
• Recognition: the guy who wants to look cool, popular, etc., by shagging a lot of chicks.
• Revenge: the guy who gets off on fucking women & thinks he is taking something from them.
• Connection: the man who feels emotionally & spiritually connected with women through sex.
• Skill-building: the guy who treats pickup as a personal development project.
• Gaming/sporting: the guy for whom pickup is a kind of game or sport; a pastime; a hunt.
• Mission-driven: the guy who is looking for a long-term gal / wife (or some other mission) and has decided pickup is the best way to find her. edit.- sexual rotation comfort* is part of mission driven...

I would add in honor of Blackdragon and the og poly nextasf guys this one:

* Sexual rotation comfort.- Guys that don't want to get exclusive, but are comfortable banging the same couple of girls on their rotation... and don't feel the need to get new women till the rotation depletes to less than 2, they call it "default monogamy" which is when you ran out of women in the rotation and stay with one, though you don't want to be mono. I will post as part of mission driven

^ if you guys can elaborate like i will do now, would be great to get an idea.... Now we all have a bit of all, but i want the STRONGEST MOTIVATOR.... since we probably want a bit of all of them...

For example my strongest one is Gaming/sporting follow by pleasure and sexual conquest...

I love going out there and game in really difficult situations, for example clubs with women that could be my granddaughters, not daughter, granddaughters.... I rather you guys to pick the strongest and then if you have other ones then just post... Remember it will change as your life stages change, unfortunately for me is over... I am beyond the deep end...

 

[orkie123]

For me it's validation and mission driven.

Validation probably because I had some limiting beliefs as a teenager so now I get excited when hot girls wanna have sex with me.

Mission- driven because I want to find the one to have the best chance at my hollywood fairytale.

Combine the 2 and its why sometimes I lose any interest in a girl if im certain she will sleep with me but doesnt have long-term potential. I alrdy have my validation and it doesnt help with my mission.

 

[topcat]

Great thread idea @Skills, i had to bite my tongue (fingers??) not to troll the original post cuz I felt it missed the mark severely, but some positive insights came out of it so i’m glad i was able to control myself..

For me, my main motivations are
mental stimulation, physical stimulation and aesthetic stimulation. For me seduction is stepping out in to the unknown, challenging ambiguous environments and teasing beautiful experiences out of it. Figuring out winning processes, and solving problems. As soon as a girl, way of seducing, venue or rotation get familiar and I feel i’ve mastered it, I lose interest immediately.

I also enjoy having a main-ish girl that’s independent and has a divergent and interesting way of seeing the world and enjoys exploring as much as I do.

So if I were to summarize my motivations i’d say sexual stimulation (pleasure?), mental stimulation (gaming/skill building) and adventure (pleasure?/gaming?/mission?).

Not entirely sure where they fit categorically.

Curious to see where the others on here fit..

Great post!

 

[Skills]

Great thread idea @Skills, i had to bite my tongue (fingers??) not to troll the original post cuz I felt it missed the mark severely, but some positive insights came out of it so i’m glad i was able to control myself..

yeah same, but he meant well

For me, my main motivations are
mental stimulation, physical stimulation and aesthetic stimulation. For me seduction is stepping out in to the unknown, challenging ambiguous environments and teasing beautiful experiences out of it. Figuring out winning processes, and solving problems. As soon as a girl, way of seducing, venue or rotation get familiar and I feel i’ve mastered it, I lose interest immediately.

yep

I also enjoy having a main-ish girl that’s independent and has a divergent and interesting way of seeing the world and enjoys exploring as much as I do.

same i always pretty much have a main, since 17

So if I were to summarize my motivations i’d say sexual stimulation (pleasure?), mental stimulation (gaming/skill building) and adventure (pleasure?/gaming?/mission?).

Not entirely sure where they fit categorically.

brah is right there the definitions by chase (they are not perfect but is there on the quote)

Curious to see where the others on here fit..

Great post!

But brah i said STRONGEST (SINGULAR) cause obviously we all have many, but thinking about it, i don't think there is such thing as singular is like me asking people what is your Favorite food, when there are too many.... so the survey in itself is flawed, but may give people perspective... So yeah i don't think many of us can fall anyway categorically tbh, we all pretty much fall into everything, that is why i said strongest..

 

[KJ Francis]

Ranked order (voted top three)

Mission driven: pass on genes with highest value mate who is good companion (different from connection below)

Skill-building: method of achieving above before reaching satisficing stage later in life

Emotional conquest: partly for her benefit, but more so for bonding reasons for sake of self and family unit (skill building for future). goes hand in hand with devotion. driven by historical scarcity and lack of current ability to replace rotation with increasing quality. currently lets me maintain solidity of connections with less time investment. for example after breakup with main, rotation was still around for oxytocin replacement therapy despite low frequency of meeting while with main. current rotation is all very long term

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Sexual conquest: more of a marker for skill currently.

Pleasure: less important currently, but can see it rising in importance over time as satisfaction with options improves

Gaming/sporting: same as above. currently playing nintendo and looking forward to future playstation

Connection: same as above, can see it rising in importance later with more of a life partner

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Recognition: I have brag-like tendencies here, but a big part of it is for inexperienced lurkers. I had late blooming success and it was super important to me to see success stories of what was possible. I often forget now how eye opening things were over time even just reading articles. in real life I am 100% discreet except for strategic preselection or reassuring parents I am not lonely since they haven't met any girls besides a handful in high school

Validation: maybe should be higher, but is mostly a skill marker currently. besides pure data, direct from women is the only feedback.

Revenge: none of this. possibility for others could be revenge on other guys maybe but not for me. I have not heard of this from guys actually but only from girls fucking their friends ex after girl fight drama.

 

[empath]

Pleasure, otherwise I will just jerk off, and new girl gives me more pleasure.

Followed by validation and recognition, late bloomer, can tell guys I did this you will ne never able to do it. Make me feels like I am unique.

Emotional and sexual conquest in relationship, I want to be her best I will erase ever memory of her past lover until they hate them ( i need to like the girl for this)

 

[FunGuy]

I voted for pleasure. To me its more about avoiding long droughts without sex as I start getting thirsty when I get too long without it. A more accurate category for me would've been "to avoid sexual frustration". I don't need much to be satisfied sexually and I'm probably lower sex drive than most dudes but it does affect my ability to be productive when I've gone too long without it.

When it comes to motivation its pleasure but when it comes to focus its skill-building so I am wayyyy more focused on building skill right now. I have absolutely 0 interest in any of the other voting options but for long term then connection would probably have my vote.

Long term I want a LTR but I will only focus on that once I hit my financial goals first.

 

[empath]

I voted for pleasure. To me its more about avoiding long droughts without sex as I start getting thirsty when I get too long without it. A more accurate category for me would've been "to avoid sexual frustration". I don't need much to be satisfied sexually and I'm probably lower sex drive than most dudes but it does affect my ability to be productive when I've gone too long without it.

When it comes to motivation its pleasure but when it comes to focus its skill-building so I am wayyyy more focused on building skill right now. I have absolutely 0 interest in any of the other voting options but for long term then connection would probably have my vote.

Long term I want a LTR but I will only focus on that once I hit my financial goals first.

Yes sexual frustration resonated with me too. Similar tough to be productive when boobs and ass are bouncing in your mind.

 

[TwoNameGame]

On one hand, I seek connection. On the other hand, I love the power of being able to just walk up to a woman who catches my eye in the street and seducing her.

Unfortunately, my main motivation is one-itis. I found this amazing girl in high school who was quite unique, hence my penchant for girly girls. I learned pickup for her (failed before finding Girls Chase) and I now want to be able to seduce a woman like her if I get ever get another chance. This scarcity mentality means approach anxiety is not an option; I must approach when even a chance presents itself, even of it is a street approach. So, there is nothing wrong if I get rejected by someone I'm not as interested in. But if I meet a great girl while sarging, then that's a happy surprise.

 

[isildur1]

Genuinely enjoy meeting new people and the women i've met through daygame have been incredible - wouldnt change it for the world. They were also a lot more interesting and feminine that the women i met at University or School . For me watching my social circles dwindled after university daygame made me meet new people and expand my horizons into different cultures and made me a more adaptable and social individual.

 

[DarkKnight]

Validation I give zero shits about, but the connection with these girls are satisfying. But I think my drive has shifted in the past it was all kinds of things . Conquest, validation,.

I think I also start to see it more like a sport these days. Which is really odd given my frame was not like this at all

 

[empath]

Validation I give zero shits about, but the connection with these girls are satisfying. But I think my drive has shifted in the past it was all kinds of things . Conquest, validation,.

I think I also start to see it more like a sport these days. Which is really odd given my frame was not like this at all

Yeah after getting good enough+ validated enough, you really level up. I guess for many starting point would have been some kind of inadequacy or limitations if not heartbreak, its just some guys keep going after feeling validated so it becomes a game and they are more positive about it.

 

[orkie123]

Yeah after getting good enough+ validated enough, you really level up. I guess for many starting point would have been some kind of inadequacy or limitations if not heartbreak, its just some guys keep going after feeling validated so it becomes a game and they are more positive about it.

Maybe it is the same thing but for me validation isn't so much out of insecurity but as a measure of success in the world. I feel like ultimately, men get judged on how attractive they are to high quality women, and there are various combinations and ways for guys to achieve that attractiveness (game, fame, intelligence, money, looks, etc). I feel more fulfilled in life when I can see my ability to influence the world to my liking rising, and being better at attracting girls is one of the best ways for me to achieve that.

My limiting beliefs in the past could be seen as insecurities, but I see it more that I was ignorant on how certain aspects of the world work.


Another thing that does motivate me though is the stories. I fking love a good story of seduction. Not even to brag or anything, sometimes out of sheer luck or whatever the craziest things happen and its nice to have those memories.

 

[Will_V]

I enjoy the most when I get a girl really immersed in sex or even just a seductive conversation, when I feel she's really letting go and giving herself to the experience, she becomes very charming to me at that point. I suppose that's 'emotional conquest', but I don't really like the term, I'm not trying to crank her emotions or control them particularly, I just like it when her mind and body are pulling together in concert, without inhibitions. I think that's what makes any person magnetic.

I think of sex and seduction as a dance, so I guess my motivation is to dance a beautiful dance. And there are all sorts of different dances you can enjoy with different energies.

My ex once sent me this video and I watch it occasionally, this is what seduction is to me - making her move sweetly and with ease to my music, from the street to the bedroom, making her fall in love with herself and what she is made of.

I have other motivations as well from that list, but this is the meaningful one.

 

[DarkKnight]

Am I the only guy here who also likes when these girls go the extra mile for you not only sex but really pamper you like making you food. Making things extra cozy for you. I have always liked that behavior when I become like a spoiled cat

 

[KJ Francis]

Am I the only guy here who also likes when these girls go the extra mile for you not only sex but really pamper you like making you food. Making things extra cozy for you. I have always liked that behavior when I become like a spoiled cat

Big time. I think it falls under emotional conquest. The other factors seem more moment-in-time, but seducing her emotions is the gift that keeps on giving and the one that translates to "auto-investment".

That said, I think a lot of it is driven by hope for a future with you and it is prone to evaporate instantly.

She’ll Do What She Has to to Get What She Wants

Girls: pretty darn good at getting what they want from men. Apologies if this is a little rough-written. I haven’t slept in 36 hours (save a pair of 30-minute cat naps) and just spent 24 of those hours in a hospital emergency ward (not for myself; the injured party’s going to be fine we think)...

www.girlschase.com

 

[TomInHo]

Pleasure is #1 for me by a landslide

Cared about skill building at first, but once I got a solid understanding of how to get sex fast and easily it became less important. But will still work on my skills and keep em sharp to get #1

Emotional & Sexual conquest don't really matter too much because I've noticed that if me and the girl are compatible it naturally happens that she will view me as one of the best she's had. So I lowkey expect a girl to fall in love if I keep banging and focus on enjoying my time with her

Tbh I would probably pay for sex if it wouldn't hurt my self esteem. Did it once and it was ok, but it didn't feel like the full experience if you catch my drift. Guess I also like the feeling of a girl craving my dick and not my wallet but not sure what category that is tho

Maybe thats Pleasure + Companionship then?

 

[DarkKnight]

Big time. I think it falls under emotional conquest. The other factors seem more moment-in-time, but seducing her emotions is the gift that keeps on giving and the one that translates to "auto-investment".

That said, I think a lot of it is driven by hope for a future with you and it is prone to evaporate instantly.

She’ll Do What She Has to to Get What She Wants

Girls: pretty darn good at getting what they want from men. Apologies if this is a little rough-written. I haven’t slept in 36 hours (save a pair of 30-minute cat naps) and just spent 24 of those hours in a hospital emergency ward (not for myself; the injured party’s going to be fine we think)...

www.girlschase.com

Not about conquest for me.. So I guess this is probably also pleasure then

 

[KJ Francis]

Guess I also like the feeling of a girl craving my dick and not my wallet but not sure what category that is tho

Validation, maybe? The word reads at first glance like a "flaw" sort of like an attention whore girl, but I don't think there's anything wrong with being wanted for your value. Like how it feels wrong to be in the chasing position and like things are in the right place when you are chased.

Not about conquest for me.. So I guess this is probably also pleasure then

Makes sense! That's an interesting distinction, like the thrill of completing the hunt vs. enjoying the spoils.

Might be relevant for me too. I don't enjoy flipping the girl so much as having her at that point all the time. Conquest seems to overlap with gaming/sport though.

Once hitting a good skill/quality level though I could see enjoying the game like managing crazy pulls in unique situations, flipping hard cases etc.

This is a really interesting thread @Skills lol

 

[TomInHo]

Validation, maybe? The word reads at first glance like a "flaw" sort of like an attention whore girl, but I don't think there's anything wrong with being wanted for your value. Like how it feels wrong to be in the chasing position and like things are in the right place when you are chased.

Not quite. I know guys that get validation from paying so not sure it's the same thing

I have had friends brag to me about hookers they banged lol

Thinks it probably closer to connection. Because I also prefer to bang girls I have real chemistry with even if I know it's only going to be a fling

Also I had an interesting convo with a female friend recently

Was telling her about how I have had FBs that would would fuck me for free but have a sugar daddy pay for it. Yet they rarely asked me to provide to that same level and in some situations would invest more in me than them

I told my friend they are getting nothing from me so why behave like that?

She then told me "They are getting something from you... they are getting attention"

That made me really think... Do women also have a different motivation list?

Do women sometimes use sex as a form to get attention from one guy and resources from another?

Could game be used as a way to hack women's need for attention so we can get more of what we want?

Am I using game and sex to get attention too?

Could be an interesting topic to dive into as well