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Space Monkey
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I think I blew my best opportunity to get my first last week during an insta date.

But I am too scared to simply kiss the girl. I think maybe asking if I can kiss her would be a good step, so as not to catch her by surprise.

But is this ok? I need a kind of lead in to kissing the girl, so it's not too much of a surprise for her.
 

OldGuy

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My first kiss was by asking the woman, then I broke out in giggles because it just kept going on, and told her I did not know how to stop! (Her reply was "no need to stop.) This is not the best way (by far), but if you need to do it the first time, do it!
 

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My first kiss was by asking the woman, then I broke out in giggles because it just kept going on, and told her I did not know how to stop! (Her reply was "no need to stop.) This is not the best way (by far), but if you need to do it the first time, do it!
I should have done that instead of not kissing her at all.

There is so much advice not to ask permission but I think for some of us, we need to, to get over that initial awkwardness.
 

Chase

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If you want to ask without asking:

YOU: I really want to kiss you right now.​
HER: [whatever reaction]​
YOU: But you're a little too far. Come closer.​

If she complies and moves closer, you have your green light.

Chase
 

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I think I blew my best opportunity to get my first last week during an insta date.

But I am too scared to simply kiss the girl. I think maybe asking if I can kiss her would be a good step, so as not to catch her by surprise.

But is this ok? I need a kind of lead in to kissing the girl, so it's not too much of a surprise for her.

The test and proven way for someone with limited experience is triangular glazing... During the is on moment..

AKA triangulating Quick Definition: The act of getting into a sexual state by looking from a woman’s eyes down to her lips, in a triangular pattern. Full Definition: Triangular gazing is a way to set the tone for a kiss through subcommunication and body language. By usingtriangular gazing, a PUA can subtly and nonverbally let his target know that he is interested in kissing her. And, if she seems receptive, go in for the kiss.

You can see a sample of Triangular Gazing in minute 6.42 of this video:



i have a routine also called the shut the fuck up routine (has to be done in a very specific case)

I am not a personal fan of verbal kiss requests or routines (i actually for trolling use sexual request with girls from work, cause i don't want them)... "come here make out with me" i do this every day with my co workers cause i know they are going to say no...
 

Ratata

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Here's my dumb make-out routine.

Caveat: only tested during night game. It's a set of crutches that are nice to use when you're a bit unsure, or starting out at this stuff. And it's also useful later, for shits 'n' giggles.

Setup: She's in "isolation" with you or "semi-isolation" with her back turned to her friends, or you're a bit away from her friends, so she in the least feels a bit safe from feeling judged. So, you've definitively hooked her already, and she's showing some compliance by coming with you somewhere more private, even if only a few steps away from her friends. The routine also assumes you already know where's she's from, so if you haven't already asked, find out where she's from... (It'll become important later.)

The dumb routine: If you suddenly feel the urge to kiss her, ask her this:

"Are you a good kisser?"

She'll say yes or no, but most girls say yes and start to brag somewhat, depending on how riled up they are. This is when you subtly start disqualifying her with stuff like "Nah, I'm not convinced. I've never had a good kiss from a girl from Ohio..." (or whever it's from.) Or dismiss her straight to her face that you don't believe her, and that all girls from Ohio are horrible kissers.

Invariably she'll deny this. That's where you cock your head and go: "Prove it!"

(And in the off case she doesn't deny it, then you can still act surprised and tell her that you don't believe her and then have her prove what a horrible kisser she is....)

If she hesitates, go: "Well, what are you waiting for?" And perhaps pull her closer. Then make out with her lol.

If she doesn't want to, you can dismiss her even more and go "I knew it. Not only are they bad kissers but pussies too."

Important. Don't be all serious when you do this. This is all a joke. It's a flirt. You're not doing it because it's the end-all to get a make-out with her. You're doing this to tease her, whether you get the make-out or not. Perhaps she just gives you shit and token resistance at first, but then - when you show that you're unphased by her shit tests, she will jump you and stuff her tongue down your throat. I mean, women are strange and different, so her reaction will wary - sometimes wildly. But it will always be fun and surprising to see her reaction! So, never crave the make-out, but instead crave the thrill of her bs, laugh of how it catches her off guard, or how it doesn't. And then have a back-up solution for it. In essence, you want to be this priest:
No matter what she throws at you, you always want to have a backup solution. And this routine gives you that, though cheesy and dumb.

Some general social dynamics of make-out, as a bonus - in case you want to "natural game" this stuff: Usually make-outs work like this: If you suddenly feel the urge, but gets unsure, that's when you should do it despite your anxiety. If you suddenly ask yourself "Hm, would she want me to kiss her right now?" The answer is usually always yes. She might still reject you, though, if you're unsure. But here's the good part! It's totally chill! If she rejected your kiss, it usually means nothing at all - unless you make it so. So, just act as if nothing, and continue chatting and try again a bit later. What really happened, is that she got a bit starled, because you did indeed come into it a bit too early for her, but now she knows that you're a man of action. Moreover, she know can trust you more, because you actually respected her rejection. This is highly sexy to women, because you're both showing that you're capable, and that you're able to show restraint.

Hope this helps!
 

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Tribal Elder
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Here's my dumb make-out routine.

Caveat: only tested during night game. It's a set of crutches that are nice to use when you're a bit unsure, or starting out at this stuff. And it's also useful later, for shits 'n' giggles.

Setup: She's in "isolation" with you or "semi-isolation" with her back turned to her friends, or you're a bit away from her friends, so she in the least feels a bit safe from feeling judged. So, you've definitively hooked her already, and she's showing some compliance by coming with you somewhere more private, even if only a few steps away from her friends. The routine also assumes you already know where's she's from, so if you haven't already asked, find out where she's from... (It'll become important later.)

The dumb routine: If you suddenly feel the urge to kiss her, ask her this:

"Are you a good kisser?"

She'll say yes or no, but most girls say yes and start to brag somewhat, depending on how riled up they are. This is when you subtly start disqualifying her with stuff like "Nah, I'm not convinced. I've never had a good kiss from a girl from Ohio..." (or whever it's from.) Or dismiss her straight to her face that you don't believe her, and that all girls from Ohio are horrible kissers.

Invariably she'll deny this. That's where you cock your head and go: "Prove it!"

(And in the off case she doesn't deny it, then you can still act surprised and tell her that you don't believe her and then have her prove what a horrible kisser she is....)

If she hesitates, go: "Well, what are you waiting for?" And perhaps pull her closer. Then make out with her lol.

If she doesn't want to, you can dismiss her even more and go "I knew it. Not only are they bad kissers but pussies too."

Important. Don't be all serious when you do this. This is all a joke. It's a flirt. You're not doing it because it's the end-all to get a make-out with her. You're doing this to tease her, whether you get the make-out or not. Perhaps she just gives you shit and token resistance at first, but then - when you show that you're unphased by her shit tests, she will jump you and stuff her tongue down your throat. I mean, women are strange and different, so her reaction will wary - sometimes wildly. But it will always be fun and surprising to see her reaction! So, never crave the make-out, but instead crave the thrill of her bs, laugh of how it catches her off guard, or how it doesn't. And then have a back-up solution for it. In essence, you want to be this priest:
No matter what she throws at you, you always want to have a backup solution. And this routine gives you that, though cheesy and dumb.

Some general social dynamics of make-out, as a bonus - in case you want to "natural game" this stuff: Usually make-outs work like this: If you suddenly feel the urge, but gets unsure, that's when you should do it despite your anxiety. If you suddenly ask yourself "Hm, would she want me to kiss her right now?" The answer is usually always yes. She might still reject you, though, if you're unsure. But here's the good part! It's totally chill! If she rejected your kiss, it usually means nothing at all - unless you make it so. So, just act as if nothing, and continue chatting and try again a bit later. What really happened, is that she got a bit starled, because you did indeed come into it a bit too early for her, but now she knows that you're a man of action. Moreover, she know can trust you more, because you actually respected her rejection. This is highly sexy to women, because you're both showing that you're capable, and that you're able to show restraint.

Hope this helps!
out of all of the verbal kissing routines finally one that i like and i can see working... i will even field test...

kudos!
 
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Tool-Bearing Hominid
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So, never crave the make-out, but instead crave the thrill of her bs, laugh of how it catches her off guard, or how it doesn't. And then have a back-up solution for it.
Love the routine, but especially this part!

I can't wait to try the whole thing out :)
 
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