- Joined
- Jul 7, 2014
- Messages
- 419
Hey guys, what’s going on? I’ve recently been struggling a lot with “first date sex” and I am writing 3 reports up, each of different girls that I had dates with over the last week and half. All of these girls, I met off tinder and I actually had another date set up last night (A girl I met Friday night at a bar) but I ended up flaking on her because I was experiencing some “date fatigue”. Funny how Chase came out with that newsletter last night and yet that’s exactly what I experienced yesterday. I’m starting to get busy with school and things are getting a little hectic here. Also, it doesn’t help that out of all three girls, I wasn’t able to get a lay. Anyways, I’ll get started with girl one:
So before this date with Sarah, I wanted to work on inviting myself over to a girl’s house. It’s not always the most convenient when I bring girls back to my house because I live with my parents. And everyone time, I bring a girl home my parents ask me a million questions and think the girls is either my girlfriend or some slut lol?
Note: Anywhere that there is a square it means its a
Sarah
Tinder (Wednesday)
Texting
(Friday)
So about an hour before the date, I text her to confirm that we are still on for 8. She texts me back and say’s that she is running a bit late and asks if it’s okay if we meet for 8:30, which I agree too and I am fine with.
So, I get ready and leave and go to meet Sarah at the bar/pub. I show up a few minutes late, just to get her thinking about me a little more and to make her a little “ancy”. So, just before I show up, she texts me saying that she is sitting in the back of the bar/pub in a booth. I text her back and tell her I am about a minute away. I walk in and then I proceed to walk to the back of the bar/pub and there she is sitting in a booth.
I walk over and greet her and then sit down across from her in the booth. She is really short, a lot shorter than I thought. Probably about 5 feet tall but she has some pretty big tits for a short person haha. I have to say, she isn’t the greatest looking but she is still quite cute.
As I sit down, we each order a Guinness (Fucking best beer ever). This chick already seems pretty cool because she like Guinness haha. Anyways, as soon as I saw her order a beer, I remembered one of Chase’s article about girl’s who prefer to drink beer over spirits or no alcohol are more likely to be open to “First Date Sex”. There was some research article that Chase posted in his article about this. So, I thought to myself there is probably a good chance I am going to fuck this girl tonight, once I saw that.
So I get into some deep diving with her and some key takeaways from the conversation where that she had just moved here to the city for Co-Op. Co-Op only lasts about a semester and that means she is probably only down for a few months. Also, she was from Guelph, which is about like 5 hours away from where we were and she had just moved to the city about a week ago. I kind of took these points, as a good indication that she is probably looking for some cock. New girl form out of town that doesn’t know anyone = free to do whatever she wants and no one will really ever know. Also, I found out she lived nearby on her own with a landlord.
So, conversation continues on and we order another beer and an appetizer. After her second beer, she tells me she already feels drunk. Lol really? I didn’t believe it but she may have been a little tipsy. We continue to flirt a bit, she tells me she has a big ass, I tell her I have a bigger ass, etc. After about 2 hours, I finally pull her, but I felt I dragged things out a bit. I should of pulled her at about 10PM because things got slightly awkward (A few awkward laughs, stares and pauses lol) for about half an hour.
The Pull 10:30PM
My House
We get to my house at around 11PM and then we walk downstairs to my basement. Thankfully my parents were sleeping, so I didn’t have to deal with them at all. I offer Sarah a girl of water, but she declines. So we sit down on my small couch and I throw a movie on, basically whatever was on, I think it was Spider-Man. We sit and talk for a few minutes and then I just kiss her. We makeout for about 30 seconds and then I think she may have pulled back and said.. “Wow, that’s was unexpected” and she laughs a bit. I don’t say anything and I just kind of give her a smirk lol.
The kiss actually seemed to make her more comfortable though, as she then kind of cuddle up next to me and she put her legs on my lap. I then started to rub her legs as we were watching the movie and then after about 10 minutes, I kiss her again.
This time she seems really into it and she is breathing a little more heavy now. She start’s touching my shoulders and chest and I caress her hair, I rub her shoulders and legs. I then, pick her up and then throw her on the other couch, which is much longer and bigger.
I get on top of here and then she then get’s a little more into and she starts rubbing her hands up and down my chest (under my shirt). I start getting pretty turned on and then I start grabbing her big tits. I then pop her tits out of her shirt and then start sucking on her nipples. I then go back and forth with her boobs and making out wither, breaking into ear, sucking on her neck a bit, and then I proceed to go for her pussy. (Note: At some point here, she also put her boobs back in shirt). I start to rub the outside of her pussy, and then she moves my hand away. So, I go back to making out with her and I then try 2 more times and but she moves my hand away both times. Time to switch it up a bitch I think to myself.
I pull her up, so were both sitting up and making out now. She looks a little awkward now because she has her arms crossed like she is not sure what to do or she is afraid I’m going to attack her something. I just keep making out with her and eventually she dropped her arms and looked a little more comfortable. I then proceed to take off this little sweater/jacket she had on. She seemed a little hesitant but she didn’t give any resistance and now I had her in a tank top basically.
I then kind of pushed her down and went back on top of her, still making out with her. I then put my hand in the back of her pants and grabbed her big bare ass. I then star to move my hand to the front of her body, just above her pubic area and I start rubbing her around her belt. I then slide my hand into her pants and no resistance, just yet. But as soon, as I go for her pussy, she pulls my hand up but not out. She keeps my hand in her pants but won’t let me touch her pussy. I try 2 more times but she gives the same resistance. I then pull my hand out of her pants and stop the escalation completely.
I get off her and say..
I then drove her home and let me tell you it was pretty awkward driving her home. She didn’t say much and was pretty quiet. It was very frustrating and I was disappointed that I could not get this done. I dropped her off and said thanks for the night and she had a good time and to text her. Well, I can tell you I never texted her after this and she never texted me.
Not sure really where I went wrong? I felt like maybe she had me on the fence between a Lover/Boyfriend categories. And I probably could of done better in my escalation. LMR strikes again. Fuck me eh? On to the NEXT
Lin (Cute Asian Girl)
Alright fellas, this is a bit of weird one and this date happened four days after I hung out with Sarah. Actually, my buddy “the mechanic” had taken her on 2 dates before I had went out with already and he kinda of “fucked her”, at least from what he told me on the second date. I didn’t really care though, I just thought I would of have some fun with this and practice some social skills and flirting and see what I could pull off with this girl. Maybe potentially become Eskimo Brothers with my wingman haha.
I don’t have the tinder conversation or text conversations but we had planned for Thursday night at 9 O’clock. I had started messaging her Sunday or Monday night on tinder and then Tuesday night she ended up messaging me this:
(No response and like 8 minutes go by and I am wondering wtf? I call her and no answer. I’m like wtf, is this girl standing me up? I was about to leave. She then texts me)
She comes out and then opens the door, gets in the car and then apologizes to me saying that her friend just called her or something just as she was heading out the door. Seemed a little odd.
So we end up driving by to a nearby bar just around her house and grab a drink. I park just on the road outside of this bar.
We sit down in a booth, she orders a Caesar, and I order a beer. We each pay for our own drinks. I deep diver her and we have some good dialogue going. A few important points of our conversation was that she actually brought my buddy “the mechanic”. She asked how I knew him because she saw that we were friends on Facebook. I just played it off, like I just knew him through a few friends of mine. Also, another point was somehow we got into talking about drugs, she starts telling me that she does MDMA before concerts and gets all fucked up. I take this and see this as a girl that’s very impulsive and I know that it’s just about time to pull, once we started talking about drugs. Last, important point was that she lived on her own with a few roommates. After about an hour of talking, I just decide to pull.
The Pull (10:30ish)
So, we then proceed back to my house and then we go downstairs. It’s just around 11PM. I offer her a water and she accepts and then she sits down on my couch and I throw a movie on. And I believe it was Broken City. Meh decent movie.
So, after about 10 minutes, I go in for the kiss. And it was a bit awkward because she barely moved in, as I went in to kiss her. We ended up making out for like 30 seconds and then both pulled back at the same time, followed by me saying… “you have soft lips”. She replies…. “thanks…Wow, that was very bold, like very bold and unexpected”. I just smirk at her and say “ya”. She then asks for a blanket and I give her one.
She then kind of gets into awkward positions, where she is all cuddled up with her body, she’s like squeezing her knees to her chest. I’m thinking to myself it’s going to be kind of hard to kiss her again, if that’s what her body language is like.
After about 10-15 minutes, I then try to kiss her, after it looked like she loosened up a bit. I go in and she doesn’t even move, she actually pulls back.
So I drove her back, once again frustrated and disappointed. I got to stop driving these girls back home, especially if I haven’t fucked them. It’s such a demoralizing feeling and pain in the ass. It’s like I just lost a sports game like hockey and now I’m getting booed by the opposing crowd as I’m going home.
P.S. My buddy “the mechanic” fucked her the next night and I guess she was talking some shit about me to him the next night. Saying things.. like she didn’t like how I didn’t pay for her drink, and then I tricked her to come home with her. All bullshit lmfao. Whatever girls are silly and cute.
Stefanie
So, a little breakdown of Stefanie: This girl actually went to my high school, yet she was a year older and not very popular from what I remember. I never had talked to her anything but I know who she was because a friend of mine took her to prom. I would consider this girl probably somewhere in my extended social circle. Anyways, she had added me on Facebook about a few months ago and I contemplated messaging her to set something up but I decided against it. And then a few days ago, we ended up matching on tinder and I messaged her.
Tinder
Texting (Friday Night)
Saturday
So, we end up showing up to this bar at around the same time. We both parked in the same lot, so we walked in together. As we walked in, we grabbed a table and sat down. The waitress comes over and we both order a beer.
And then I begin deep diving her. Now, this girl was exactly the type of girl that was recently described in Colt’s article about awkward girls. This girl was shy, awkward and a little nerdy. I did about 85-90% of the talking, which started to make things hard on me after a while. After about 40 minutes of doing some deep diving, things started to get a bit awkward. We had a few awkward stares and laughs and I even found myself repeating myself a few times. I could tell she was nervous, because she started going on her phone and texting? So, after this, I just decided to pull because well let’s face it, things could of kept getting awkward so I just pulled.
The Pull
So, she ends up paying and then we get out of there. She gets in her car and then follows me back to my house.
My House
So we get back to my house just around 10PM, and we go downstairs. However, my mom is up and she starts teasing me a bit calling me Casanova and shit because it’s like the third broad I have had over in a week and a half. Fuck me lol. My mom, then goes to bed shortly after I get home though.
So, me and Stef are downstairs and then I offer her water but she declines. We then sit down on my couch, next to each other and I throw a movie on.
So before, I began this escalation and I wanted to focus on making this escalation more mutual (e.g., I put my hand on her chest, she puts her hand on my chest. Alek’s article on LMR explains this well) and I also didn’t want to look to pushy/needy. Basically, I was trying to change my strategy up and it make different from the last two girls I was trying to fuck.
As were watching this movie, she seems very nervous, as she is constantly on her phone and texting. I try to look at her phone and she’s like holding her phone tight and texting her friends or something. So, after about 15-20 minutes, I just go in for this kiss and she is right into it. She begins making out with me somewhat passionately and I was a little surprised by this. So we makeout for maybe a minute and then she pulls back. I then say.. “you have very soft lips”.
Now, after we makeout, she looked a lot more comfortable with me. She put her phone down and then kind of cuddled up next to me by placing her legs on me. Similar to what Sarah did (the girl above) did before. I begin rubbing her legs back and forth, while were watching a movie. We talk a bit but I don’t make another move, until the movie is over.
After the movie is over, probably about an hour went by after I first made out with her. I begin kissing her after the movie is over and we begin making out. I caress her hair, I rub her shoulders and legs and then I place her hand on my head and chest. When I placed her hand on my chest, it seemed like she didn’t know what to do and she just left it there. Kind of awkward but that explains her personality.
After making out for a few minutes, she pull backs and say’s… I should probably get going. I respond “okay” and go back to making out with here. She makes out with me for a few seconds and then pulls back again and asks for phone because she can’t find it. She ended up dropping it in the couch lol.
After, she gets her phone, she get’s up and then starts getting ready to leave. I end up walking her out of my house and then she gives me a big hug before she leaves and says good night? LOL… Did I just get boyfriend zoned? I think so…. Fuck lol
Alright, guys I’m working hard to get over this first date sex issue but I am having a tough time. I’m not sure if these girls boyfriend zone me or if I am off in my escalation. It’s getting frustrating because I feel like I should have converted on at least 1 or 2 of these girls. Also, it’s starting to mentally fatigue because I keep getting to the same point with these girls but I can’t seem to overcome this resistance. Any thoughts, comments or feedback would be appreciated.
All the best,
Rdawg
So before this date with Sarah, I wanted to work on inviting myself over to a girl’s house. It’s not always the most convenient when I bring girls back to my house because I live with my parents. And everyone time, I bring a girl home my parents ask me a million questions and think the girls is either my girlfriend or some slut lol?
Note: Anywhere that there is a square it means its a
Sarah
Tinder (Wednesday)
Me: Looks like we both have great taste
Her: Why would you say that?
Me: you tell me :/
Her: I like dark beer
Me: I guess we have great taste in two things then lol
Her: how's it going? ahah
Me: pretty good! just relaxing a bit haha hbu??
Her: Sorry, I fell asleep, I had a long day at work
Me: oh yaa, where do you work at?
Her: The government
Me: Oh cool, the government? that sounds like a lot of responsibility lol. How long have you been doing that for?
Her: I just moved here! Only a couple days
Me: Oh that's awesome! So you moved to XYZ then?
Her: That is correct
Me: Nice, well welcome to XYZ haha! Where did you move from?
Her: Thank you! I'm from guelph!
Me: ahh cool! That's quite the move then to here haha
Her: Yeah, it is! Pretty different
Me: Haha ya! Well, since your new around here. How about we grab a drink or a bite sometime soon and maybe I can show you around a bit?
Her: I'de love to, there's actually this place near my work I keep wanting to go into
Me: Great! Haha really? Do you know what the place is called?![]()
Her: XYZ? The XYZ?
Me: The XYZ, ya that's a great place and they got some great drinks there! Here text me *** *** ***** or send me ur # and will set something up![]()
Texting
Her: Hey, it's sar
Me: Hey Sarah! So what do you say we grab those drinks and bite at Manchester then?![]()
Her: Haha sure what day this week ya thinking?
Me: Alright, well i'm free Friday or Sunday evening, if either of those days work for you?![]()
Her: Friday's Good!
Me: Alright, how does 8 sound Friday?
Her: Sounds great
kk great! I'll see ya Friday![]()
Me: Her: Okay awesome, i'll text you closer to then
Me: Okay
Her: Looking forward to it!
(Thursday)
Her: Hey are we still on for tomorrow night?
Me: Yes we are
Her: Okay great!
(Friday)
So about an hour before the date, I text her to confirm that we are still on for 8. She texts me back and say’s that she is running a bit late and asks if it’s okay if we meet for 8:30, which I agree too and I am fine with.
So, I get ready and leave and go to meet Sarah at the bar/pub. I show up a few minutes late, just to get her thinking about me a little more and to make her a little “ancy”. So, just before I show up, she texts me saying that she is sitting in the back of the bar/pub in a booth. I text her back and tell her I am about a minute away. I walk in and then I proceed to walk to the back of the bar/pub and there she is sitting in a booth.
I walk over and greet her and then sit down across from her in the booth. She is really short, a lot shorter than I thought. Probably about 5 feet tall but she has some pretty big tits for a short person haha. I have to say, she isn’t the greatest looking but she is still quite cute.
As I sit down, we each order a Guinness (Fucking best beer ever). This chick already seems pretty cool because she like Guinness haha. Anyways, as soon as I saw her order a beer, I remembered one of Chase’s article about girl’s who prefer to drink beer over spirits or no alcohol are more likely to be open to “First Date Sex”. There was some research article that Chase posted in his article about this. So, I thought to myself there is probably a good chance I am going to fuck this girl tonight, once I saw that.
So I get into some deep diving with her and some key takeaways from the conversation where that she had just moved here to the city for Co-Op. Co-Op only lasts about a semester and that means she is probably only down for a few months. Also, she was from Guelph, which is about like 5 hours away from where we were and she had just moved to the city about a week ago. I kind of took these points, as a good indication that she is probably looking for some cock. New girl form out of town that doesn’t know anyone = free to do whatever she wants and no one will really ever know. Also, I found out she lived nearby on her own with a landlord.
So, conversation continues on and we order another beer and an appetizer. After her second beer, she tells me she already feels drunk. Lol really? I didn’t believe it but she may have been a little tipsy. We continue to flirt a bit, she tells me she has a big ass, I tell her I have a bigger ass, etc. After about 2 hours, I finally pull her, but I felt I dragged things out a bit. I should of pulled her at about 10PM because things got slightly awkward (A few awkward laughs, stares and pauses lol) for about half an hour.
The Pull 10:30PM
Me: It’s getting kind of busy and loud in here. Do you want to get out of here?
Her: Sure
We end up splitting the bill, put our jackets on and then head outside. We start walking down the street.
Me: Wow, it’s freezing out here.
Her: Omg. I know
Me: Listen, your place is closer than mine. How about we go back to your place and just relax and warm up? I’d invite you back to my house but’s it further out.
Her: Oh, my landlord doesn’t let me have people over. (Lol wow?)
Me: haha really?
Her: Ya, I can’t bring anyone back. (She just didn’t seem comfortable with the idea of bringing me back to her place, oh well no big deal)
Me: Okay, well, let’s go to my place then, it’s cold out here
Her: Okay
So, we walk back to my car and then I drive her back to my place, which is about a ten minute drive. (note: this girl doesn’t drive).
My House
We get to my house at around 11PM and then we walk downstairs to my basement. Thankfully my parents were sleeping, so I didn’t have to deal with them at all. I offer Sarah a girl of water, but she declines. So we sit down on my small couch and I throw a movie on, basically whatever was on, I think it was Spider-Man. We sit and talk for a few minutes and then I just kiss her. We makeout for about 30 seconds and then I think she may have pulled back and said.. “Wow, that’s was unexpected” and she laughs a bit. I don’t say anything and I just kind of give her a smirk lol.
The kiss actually seemed to make her more comfortable though, as she then kind of cuddle up next to me and she put her legs on my lap. I then started to rub her legs as we were watching the movie and then after about 10 minutes, I kiss her again.
This time she seems really into it and she is breathing a little more heavy now. She start’s touching my shoulders and chest and I caress her hair, I rub her shoulders and legs. I then, pick her up and then throw her on the other couch, which is much longer and bigger.
I get on top of here and then she then get’s a little more into and she starts rubbing her hands up and down my chest (under my shirt). I start getting pretty turned on and then I start grabbing her big tits. I then pop her tits out of her shirt and then start sucking on her nipples. I then go back and forth with her boobs and making out wither, breaking into ear, sucking on her neck a bit, and then I proceed to go for her pussy. (Note: At some point here, she also put her boobs back in shirt). I start to rub the outside of her pussy, and then she moves my hand away. So, I go back to making out with her and I then try 2 more times and but she moves my hand away both times. Time to switch it up a bitch I think to myself.
I pull her up, so were both sitting up and making out now. She looks a little awkward now because she has her arms crossed like she is not sure what to do or she is afraid I’m going to attack her something. I just keep making out with her and eventually she dropped her arms and looked a little more comfortable. I then proceed to take off this little sweater/jacket she had on. She seemed a little hesitant but she didn’t give any resistance and now I had her in a tank top basically.
I then kind of pushed her down and went back on top of her, still making out with her. I then put my hand in the back of her pants and grabbed her big bare ass. I then star to move my hand to the front of her body, just above her pubic area and I start rubbing her around her belt. I then slide my hand into her pants and no resistance, just yet. But as soon, as I go for her pussy, she pulls my hand up but not out. She keeps my hand in her pants but won’t let me touch her pussy. I try 2 more times but she gives the same resistance. I then pull my hand out of her pants and stop the escalation completely.
I get off her and say..
Me: Wow, it’s getting hot.
( A few seconds late)
Her: What time is it?
Me: I Don’t know
( She gets up and grabs her phone)
Her: Oh wow, it’s already 12, it’s late, I should probably get going (I know this was bullshit but I guess she made up her mind she didn’t want to fuck me or I fucked up somewhere?)
Me: Alright
I then drove her home and let me tell you it was pretty awkward driving her home. She didn’t say much and was pretty quiet. It was very frustrating and I was disappointed that I could not get this done. I dropped her off and said thanks for the night and she had a good time and to text her. Well, I can tell you I never texted her after this and she never texted me.
Not sure really where I went wrong? I felt like maybe she had me on the fence between a Lover/Boyfriend categories. And I probably could of done better in my escalation. LMR strikes again. Fuck me eh? On to the NEXT
Lin (Cute Asian Girl)
Alright fellas, this is a bit of weird one and this date happened four days after I hung out with Sarah. Actually, my buddy “the mechanic” had taken her on 2 dates before I had went out with already and he kinda of “fucked her”, at least from what he told me on the second date. I didn’t really care though, I just thought I would of have some fun with this and practice some social skills and flirting and see what I could pull off with this girl. Maybe potentially become Eskimo Brothers with my wingman haha.
I don’t have the tinder conversation or text conversations but we had planned for Thursday night at 9 O’clock. I had started messaging her Sunday or Monday night on tinder and then Tuesday night she ended up messaging me this:
Her: What are you doing right now? 7:15PM
Me: Just kicking it back and watching some hockey. Hbu? 7:30PM
Her: Oh, well my plans got canceled tonight and I was going to see if you wanted to hangout. But it’s okay we can wait till Thursday. (Thirsty much?)
Me: Well, I don’t got much going on tonight, I could do tonight.
Her: Okay, what time?
Me: how does 9 work?
Her: Ya that sounds good. Ahhh one thing thought, I don’t drive.
Me: That’s okay, I could pick you up, if you want.
Her: Alright, I should probably get ready then, don’t want to look like a mess.
Me: haha a mess isn’t a bad thing8:30PM
Her: Well, that wouldn’t be good for the first date 8:50PM
Her: My address is *****
(So I leave and go pick her up and I show up at her house at around 9:05PM)
Me: Here
(No response and like 8 minutes go by and I am wondering wtf? I call her and no answer. I’m like wtf, is this girl standing me up? I was about to leave. She then texts me)
Her: Sorry, give me 5 minutes (Wow wtf this bitch ain’t even ready)
(10 more minutes go by and she finally comes out. I probably waited over 20 minutes. It was almost 9 30 at this point)
She comes out and then opens the door, gets in the car and then apologizes to me saying that her friend just called her or something just as she was heading out the door. Seemed a little odd.
So we end up driving by to a nearby bar just around her house and grab a drink. I park just on the road outside of this bar.
We sit down in a booth, she orders a Caesar, and I order a beer. We each pay for our own drinks. I deep diver her and we have some good dialogue going. A few important points of our conversation was that she actually brought my buddy “the mechanic”. She asked how I knew him because she saw that we were friends on Facebook. I just played it off, like I just knew him through a few friends of mine. Also, another point was somehow we got into talking about drugs, she starts telling me that she does MDMA before concerts and gets all fucked up. I take this and see this as a girl that’s very impulsive and I know that it’s just about time to pull, once we started talking about drugs. Last, important point was that she lived on her own with a few roommates. After about an hour of talking, I just decide to pull.
The Pull (10:30ish)
Her: Ahhh I want a glass of water but it looks like there busy.
Me: mhmm. Do you want to get out of here?
Her: Yes
Me: Okay
So we walk outside and head back to my hair. Kid me not, it was fucking freezing this night. It was so dam cold outside, I fucking hated it. We jump in the car, I crank the heat up to full blast and we try to warm up.
Me: Is there anywhere you wanted to go or do? (Don’t know why I said this, I kind of hesitated a bit and made a rather somewhat weak remark)
Her: Oh no, it doesn’t matter to me.
Me: Alright, well I’d invite you back to my house but I’m little further out. How about we go back to your place and chill? (Again like I said earlier I’m trying to work on imposing on people and doing it right)
Her: Ohh, I don’t think we can tonight. My one roommate is sleeping already and he doesn’t like it when I bring people over this late. (Again another girl doesn’t seem comfortable inviting me over, oh well I can always improvise)
Me: Oh really eh?
Her: Ya, he usually gets mad if people are over and it’s late at night, especially when he has to go to school tomorrow.
Me: Alright, well we can just back to my house then. I’ll drive you back home later.
Her: Oh, we can always do it another time. It’s a little far.
Me: It’s not that far, it’s only about 10 minutes away.
Her: Alright, ya I guess.
So, we then proceed back to my house and then we go downstairs. It’s just around 11PM. I offer her a water and she accepts and then she sits down on my couch and I throw a movie on. And I believe it was Broken City. Meh decent movie.
So, after about 10 minutes, I go in for the kiss. And it was a bit awkward because she barely moved in, as I went in to kiss her. We ended up making out for like 30 seconds and then both pulled back at the same time, followed by me saying… “you have soft lips”. She replies…. “thanks…Wow, that was very bold, like very bold and unexpected”. I just smirk at her and say “ya”. She then asks for a blanket and I give her one.
She then kind of gets into awkward positions, where she is all cuddled up with her body, she’s like squeezing her knees to her chest. I’m thinking to myself it’s going to be kind of hard to kiss her again, if that’s what her body language is like.
After about 10-15 minutes, I then try to kiss her, after it looked like she loosened up a bit. I go in and she doesn’t even move, she actually pulls back.
Her: Ahhhhhh….. no more kissing, no more kissing.
Me: Okay
So wtf? This is odd, in my head now, I’m like wtf am I going to do. So 10 minutes go by and then I start thinking about driving her home and getting her out of here because it just doesn’t seem like she’s going to do anything. Also, she seemed more into the movie then me, like wtf lol.
I get up for a second to grab my water, and then she says to me
Her: how much longer is this movie because I am getting kind of tired.
Me: oh it’s like an hour longer, we can always watch it another time. I’m kind tried to, I’ll drive you home.
Her: Oh okay, ya the movie seems pretty cool but I’m just kind of tired.
So I drove her back, once again frustrated and disappointed. I got to stop driving these girls back home, especially if I haven’t fucked them. It’s such a demoralizing feeling and pain in the ass. It’s like I just lost a sports game like hockey and now I’m getting booed by the opposing crowd as I’m going home.
P.S. My buddy “the mechanic” fucked her the next night and I guess she was talking some shit about me to him the next night. Saying things.. like she didn’t like how I didn’t pay for her drink, and then I tricked her to come home with her. All bullshit lmfao. Whatever girls are silly and cute.
Stefanie
So, a little breakdown of Stefanie: This girl actually went to my high school, yet she was a year older and not very popular from what I remember. I never had talked to her anything but I know who she was because a friend of mine took her to prom. I would consider this girl probably somewhere in my extended social circle. Anyways, she had added me on Facebook about a few months ago and I contemplated messaging her to set something up but I decided against it. And then a few days ago, we ended up matching on tinder and I messaged her.
Tinder
Me: Looks like we both have great taste
Her: haha I guess so
Me: haha how’s the tinder world treating ya?
Her: lol I haven’t been on it in months. Hbu?
Me: haha really? It’s been a pretty interesting experience lol
Her: lol ya it got boring for me. But that’s good haha
Me: Cool lol. I notice we have each other on facebook? How about we grab a drink or bite sometime soon?
Her: haha sure
Me: haha alright shoot me a text *** *** ***** or send me your number and we can set something up
Her: Sounds good
Texting (Friday Night)
Her: Hey it’s Stef
Me: Hey Stef, what’s going?
Her: nothing much lol. Hbu?
Me: Nice. Just kicking it back. So, what’s your schedule like?
Her: I’m free every night except Tuesday and next Friday.
Me: Alright, well how does Sunday or Monday evening for you?
Her: Sunday works
Me: Okay, how about we grab a drink Sunday night…. Say 8:30PM at Zip’s?
Her: Sounds good
Me: Alright great, I’ll see ya Sunday
Her: Okay
Saturday
Her: How was your weekend? 9:30PM
Sunday
Me: Good! Just been relaxing all weekend. Are we still on for tonight?
Her: That’s good! Mhmmmm!
Me: Okay, I’ll see ya tonight!
Her: Sounds good
So, we end up showing up to this bar at around the same time. We both parked in the same lot, so we walked in together. As we walked in, we grabbed a table and sat down. The waitress comes over and we both order a beer.
And then I begin deep diving her. Now, this girl was exactly the type of girl that was recently described in Colt’s article about awkward girls. This girl was shy, awkward and a little nerdy. I did about 85-90% of the talking, which started to make things hard on me after a while. After about 40 minutes of doing some deep diving, things started to get a bit awkward. We had a few awkward stares and laughs and I even found myself repeating myself a few times. I could tell she was nervous, because she started going on her phone and texting? So, after this, I just decided to pull because well let’s face it, things could of kept getting awkward so I just pulled.
The Pull
Me: Hey, it’s getting kind of busy and loud in here. Do you want to get out of here? We can go back to my place and watch a movie and chill?
Her: Ya, Okay.
Me: Alright, will get the bill and go.
(So the waitress comes over and gives us the bill, it’s like 12 bucks and I ask her if she wants to split)
Me: Mhmm. Do you want to split?
Her: I don’t have any cash on me. (She expected me to pay lol?)
Me: Okay?
Her: I just got debit
Me: Okay, well it’s 12 bucks, I got 6 bucks on me, I can give you this and then you just me with your debit.
Her: Umm.. Okay.
So, she ends up paying and then we get out of there. She gets in her car and then follows me back to my house.
My House
So we get back to my house just around 10PM, and we go downstairs. However, my mom is up and she starts teasing me a bit calling me Casanova and shit because it’s like the third broad I have had over in a week and a half. Fuck me lol. My mom, then goes to bed shortly after I get home though.
So, me and Stef are downstairs and then I offer her water but she declines. We then sit down on my couch, next to each other and I throw a movie on.
So before, I began this escalation and I wanted to focus on making this escalation more mutual (e.g., I put my hand on her chest, she puts her hand on my chest. Alek’s article on LMR explains this well) and I also didn’t want to look to pushy/needy. Basically, I was trying to change my strategy up and it make different from the last two girls I was trying to fuck.
As were watching this movie, she seems very nervous, as she is constantly on her phone and texting. I try to look at her phone and she’s like holding her phone tight and texting her friends or something. So, after about 15-20 minutes, I just go in for this kiss and she is right into it. She begins making out with me somewhat passionately and I was a little surprised by this. So we makeout for maybe a minute and then she pulls back. I then say.. “you have very soft lips”.
Now, after we makeout, she looked a lot more comfortable with me. She put her phone down and then kind of cuddled up next to me by placing her legs on me. Similar to what Sarah did (the girl above) did before. I begin rubbing her legs back and forth, while were watching a movie. We talk a bit but I don’t make another move, until the movie is over.
After the movie is over, probably about an hour went by after I first made out with her. I begin kissing her after the movie is over and we begin making out. I caress her hair, I rub her shoulders and legs and then I place her hand on my head and chest. When I placed her hand on my chest, it seemed like she didn’t know what to do and she just left it there. Kind of awkward but that explains her personality.
After making out for a few minutes, she pull backs and say’s… I should probably get going. I respond “okay” and go back to making out with here. She makes out with me for a few seconds and then pulls back again and asks for phone because she can’t find it. She ended up dropping it in the couch lol.
After, she gets her phone, she get’s up and then starts getting ready to leave. I end up walking her out of my house and then she gives me a big hug before she leaves and says good night? LOL… Did I just get boyfriend zoned? I think so…. Fuck lol
Alright, guys I’m working hard to get over this first date sex issue but I am having a tough time. I’m not sure if these girls boyfriend zone me or if I am off in my escalation. It’s getting frustrating because I feel like I should have converted on at least 1 or 2 of these girls. Also, it’s starting to mentally fatigue because I keep getting to the same point with these girls but I can’t seem to overcome this resistance. Any thoughts, comments or feedback would be appreciated.
All the best,
Rdawg