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Opened a 2 set in a bar while smoking a cigarette. Did some:
- light chase frameing (sd you can be as cool as me),
- intrigue (''you look just like that actress''),
- contrasting (story about a creepy guy from yesterday contrasted with how I think it should be done),
- some light implicit social proof (sure sometimes it happens that you lock eyes with a girl on the other side on the dance floor and next thing you know you're making out, but i recommend people do that sober),
- light social kino.
It was 38 degrees yesterday and it was terribly hot inside that venue, so I proposed we move to a nice open door bar after 15min. They agreed.
On the door we wait for my targets friend who went to the toilet. We talk to the bouncer who recognizes me, tells me ''I've seen you here a couple times'' tells me that when i come next time I can just go to him and cut the cue line. This does 2 things for me:
- good social proof, he likes me,
- bad social proog, implying I come here a lot, makes my target think I'm a player (I'm moving them to a different bar after 15min, now the bouncer tells me he sees me here a lot).
I get some shit from her ''you come here a lot'' which i exaggerate ''I live here, sometimes I visit my apartment''. On our way
she compliments me that I'm handsome, that I have a very confident walk, strong signs of attraction.
Oh, by the way, for all the short guys, I'm 5'6 - 168,5 cm, my girl is 5'11. 31 yo, can see some signs of ageing on her figure, but still hot body. Face looks like Cameron Diaz, that was the ''you look like that actress'' gambit, which I later remember and she tells me she hears this a lot. I'm calling her Cameron through the evening, teasing her.
We get to the bar, girls buy me an alco free beer. First we're sitting outside on a low window shelf then her friend sits on the curb, saying its not comfy for her there, soon gets into convo with other people. I later found out she purposefully left us alone, so I can do my thing. Yes, she said that. Respect.
This is where I start gaming my girl. She's very talkative and to take convo on the right track I needed to overtake the % of who is talking, I would say i did fine, not awkward but not natural. You know, the kind of girl who talks a lot, giggles a lot and likes to give you girly shit. Cute.
I'm reading a book on trauma and disease connection. Starting to talk about how not everyone who smokes/ sunbathes develops lung/ skin cancer but all the patients who have cancer have similar ways of repressing stress.
You experience emotions on multiple levels. your subjective experience, your interpretation, your outward expression and involuntarily body reactions. Let me give you an example, I tell her.
Lets say you're attracted to me (she makes an fake astonished impression).
That would mean you feel butterflies in your stomach. This is just a feeling but you interpret it ''Im attracted because he is handsome''. Then you express this feelings in your own way outwardly, maybe you start touching me, maybe you start complimenting me. And lastly there are involuntarily reactions like your pupils dilate, your
breath changes and your heart beat fastens.
She's is giggling ''how do you know so much about this stuff'' (well I just told you I'm reading the book), she asks me if I read the ''Play book'' (I think she ment The Game lol).
''You're manipulating me... and its working!''
I escalate touch from here, I let my palm rest on her thigh. She starts playing with my hair and giving me shit for ''manipulating her''.
So far I'm brushing tests off nonchalantely, sometimes exaggerating them. She keeps giving me shit, then I just
go take a piss.
The dust settles, I come back and I'm deep diving her, ask her if she ever wrote songs and go into the creativity - societal norms stack I wrote in this report.
I couldn't finish the gambit because again she busts me again, says ''you're manipulating me again!''. OK now it's becoming annoying. I don't know is this girl this smart, I think she noticed herself being aroused and connected that with manipulation or whatever. Not the best frame to be in.
I told her ''I mean everything I say'' (which i do) and ''what does she think I want from her'', ''if i would be manipulating her i would want something''. She says ''I don't know... companionship, sex, just to fuck with my head?'' i say in a joke ''well sex is nice but i don't care, i liked you now I'm talking to you, lets see where it goes''. She said she was manipulated a few times in relationships and is good at spotting manipulation. Now she wonders why am I doing this, am I desperate
for sex - i ask her whats desperate, one week, one month, one year? and pass the test, did someone hurt me - to which i just reply yes.
This kinda helped me... because she stopped being combative and showed some compassion. I mean I'm not hurt now and everyone was hurt in their lives, I was being just blunt honest.
I don't remember every detail here, but i had to acknowledge to her I'm a psychopath and at that point i could say whatever I want. Then she acknowledge she's broken (looks not broken at all, I've seen broken girls, she's not one of those). Then ''its on'' moment happened. I told her look i did not try to manipulate you but I did want to make you horny once I admit.
She got closer to me. We were touching each other. I told her that in a normal scenario I would invite her to listen to some music have a glass of wine for me and water for her in my air conditioned apartment, but she would think I'm manipulating her. She said nothing but kept looking at me and playing with my hair.
Looked at her, looked away, told her fuck I want to kiss you now, stop doing this to me, she said ''but that would not be good because my friend'' is here - in all honesty her friend would be cool with it, she was winging me.
Then I somehow transitioned back to gambits - haha! - now telling her some fantasies from my secret garden, oh yes I asked her what
her fantasies are, ''I mean you watch porn i know that, im just interested''.
In the middle on it the barman came and interrupted me and started closing the window seal. Fuck me. I should move my girl around more.
We sat back, I told her ''now the spell is broken I cant go back...''. She wanted me to haha because I left it in suspense, but I rather went into secret house gambit by Teevster. then the barman interupted us again, dear looooorrrrdddd.
We stood up, a guy her friend was talking to proposed we move to the next open bar and we walked. On our way I hugged her, she hugged me
then I kissed her neck. I think this was peak of this evenings escalation.
Then it went downhill, we got to the bar and got into a group talk, I isolated her once but she went back and then because the place was empty and it
usually runs till 5 they closed it at 4 this night.
We say goodbye hug for a little longer, she asks me for my number.
I say ''for what, so i can call you in denmark?'' - she's a turist, leaving in 2 days - stupid mistake. Says ''you're right'', then I say ''but we can go out tomorrow''. She says ''no no no that would be a baaad idea''. I say ''come on'' lol, supreme persuasion tech haha. That's it, good night Cameron.
I was frustrated obviously. Solutions welcomed in replies.
On my way back home I talked to this girl who just came from a festival and took her number, she lives close by and I think its solid.
Sorry for such long posts, I'm verbose in field and don't know how to make these shorter.
- light chase frameing (sd you can be as cool as me),
- intrigue (''you look just like that actress''),
- contrasting (story about a creepy guy from yesterday contrasted with how I think it should be done),
- some light implicit social proof (sure sometimes it happens that you lock eyes with a girl on the other side on the dance floor and next thing you know you're making out, but i recommend people do that sober),
- light social kino.
It was 38 degrees yesterday and it was terribly hot inside that venue, so I proposed we move to a nice open door bar after 15min. They agreed.
On the door we wait for my targets friend who went to the toilet. We talk to the bouncer who recognizes me, tells me ''I've seen you here a couple times'' tells me that when i come next time I can just go to him and cut the cue line. This does 2 things for me:
- good social proof, he likes me,
- bad social proog, implying I come here a lot, makes my target think I'm a player (I'm moving them to a different bar after 15min, now the bouncer tells me he sees me here a lot).
I get some shit from her ''you come here a lot'' which i exaggerate ''I live here, sometimes I visit my apartment''. On our way
she compliments me that I'm handsome, that I have a very confident walk, strong signs of attraction.
Oh, by the way, for all the short guys, I'm 5'6 - 168,5 cm, my girl is 5'11. 31 yo, can see some signs of ageing on her figure, but still hot body. Face looks like Cameron Diaz, that was the ''you look like that actress'' gambit, which I later remember and she tells me she hears this a lot. I'm calling her Cameron through the evening, teasing her.
We get to the bar, girls buy me an alco free beer. First we're sitting outside on a low window shelf then her friend sits on the curb, saying its not comfy for her there, soon gets into convo with other people. I later found out she purposefully left us alone, so I can do my thing. Yes, she said that. Respect.
This is where I start gaming my girl. She's very talkative and to take convo on the right track I needed to overtake the % of who is talking, I would say i did fine, not awkward but not natural. You know, the kind of girl who talks a lot, giggles a lot and likes to give you girly shit. Cute.
I'm reading a book on trauma and disease connection. Starting to talk about how not everyone who smokes/ sunbathes develops lung/ skin cancer but all the patients who have cancer have similar ways of repressing stress.
You experience emotions on multiple levels. your subjective experience, your interpretation, your outward expression and involuntarily body reactions. Let me give you an example, I tell her.
Lets say you're attracted to me (she makes an fake astonished impression).
That would mean you feel butterflies in your stomach. This is just a feeling but you interpret it ''Im attracted because he is handsome''. Then you express this feelings in your own way outwardly, maybe you start touching me, maybe you start complimenting me. And lastly there are involuntarily reactions like your pupils dilate, your
breath changes and your heart beat fastens.
She's is giggling ''how do you know so much about this stuff'' (well I just told you I'm reading the book), she asks me if I read the ''Play book'' (I think she ment The Game lol).
''You're manipulating me... and its working!''
I escalate touch from here, I let my palm rest on her thigh. She starts playing with my hair and giving me shit for ''manipulating her''.
So far I'm brushing tests off nonchalantely, sometimes exaggerating them. She keeps giving me shit, then I just
go take a piss.
The dust settles, I come back and I'm deep diving her, ask her if she ever wrote songs and go into the creativity - societal norms stack I wrote in this report.
I couldn't finish the gambit because again she busts me again, says ''you're manipulating me again!''. OK now it's becoming annoying. I don't know is this girl this smart, I think she noticed herself being aroused and connected that with manipulation or whatever. Not the best frame to be in.
I told her ''I mean everything I say'' (which i do) and ''what does she think I want from her'', ''if i would be manipulating her i would want something''. She says ''I don't know... companionship, sex, just to fuck with my head?'' i say in a joke ''well sex is nice but i don't care, i liked you now I'm talking to you, lets see where it goes''. She said she was manipulated a few times in relationships and is good at spotting manipulation. Now she wonders why am I doing this, am I desperate
for sex - i ask her whats desperate, one week, one month, one year? and pass the test, did someone hurt me - to which i just reply yes.
This kinda helped me... because she stopped being combative and showed some compassion. I mean I'm not hurt now and everyone was hurt in their lives, I was being just blunt honest.
I don't remember every detail here, but i had to acknowledge to her I'm a psychopath and at that point i could say whatever I want. Then she acknowledge she's broken (looks not broken at all, I've seen broken girls, she's not one of those). Then ''its on'' moment happened. I told her look i did not try to manipulate you but I did want to make you horny once I admit.
She got closer to me. We were touching each other. I told her that in a normal scenario I would invite her to listen to some music have a glass of wine for me and water for her in my air conditioned apartment, but she would think I'm manipulating her. She said nothing but kept looking at me and playing with my hair.
Looked at her, looked away, told her fuck I want to kiss you now, stop doing this to me, she said ''but that would not be good because my friend'' is here - in all honesty her friend would be cool with it, she was winging me.
Then I somehow transitioned back to gambits - haha! - now telling her some fantasies from my secret garden, oh yes I asked her what
her fantasies are, ''I mean you watch porn i know that, im just interested''.
In the middle on it the barman came and interrupted me and started closing the window seal. Fuck me. I should move my girl around more.
We sat back, I told her ''now the spell is broken I cant go back...''. She wanted me to haha because I left it in suspense, but I rather went into secret house gambit by Teevster. then the barman interupted us again, dear looooorrrrdddd.
We stood up, a guy her friend was talking to proposed we move to the next open bar and we walked. On our way I hugged her, she hugged me
then I kissed her neck. I think this was peak of this evenings escalation.
Then it went downhill, we got to the bar and got into a group talk, I isolated her once but she went back and then because the place was empty and it
usually runs till 5 they closed it at 4 this night.
We say goodbye hug for a little longer, she asks me for my number.
I say ''for what, so i can call you in denmark?'' - she's a turist, leaving in 2 days - stupid mistake. Says ''you're right'', then I say ''but we can go out tomorrow''. She says ''no no no that would be a baaad idea''. I say ''come on'' lol, supreme persuasion tech haha. That's it, good night Cameron.
I was frustrated obviously. Solutions welcomed in replies.
On my way back home I talked to this girl who just came from a festival and took her number, she lives close by and I think its solid.
Sorry for such long posts, I'm verbose in field and don't know how to make these shorter.
