frame control

  1. G

    FR Too rigid frame-control?

    I was reading this post now and something similar happened to me earlier this week.. looking for some feedback. That post already covers most of what I was looking for but I needed some more inputs on logistical navigation and frame-control I approached an Austrian chic (textbook beautiful with...
  2. Jan

    Using "I'm in my woman's days' as an excuse

    3 out of 4 of my last dates with different women when I was in isolated space, I heard "I'm in my woman's days". It can be a coincidence but it seems like too much of a coincidence. During these dates, I escalated, it went pretty far, but not that far. I don't like to have sex when a woman is...
  3. Y

    Need Motivation to approach in Zurich

    Boys, i have made it to a very nice country called Switzerland ( of-course, you might have your own opinion and i respect that but i really love this place ! ) I am currently working in Zurich and holy shit, i recognized that i was the problem the entire time I had my excuses in Pakistan (...
  4. N

    Socializing How to Counter "Cockblockers" Twixt You And Your Mark, Claiming You're Too Old?

    I ran into an issue with someone close to me, when I was flirting with a girl who was way into me. In such a case, what are my options? Essentially, take ownership by saying I am flirting, and joking about being old and creepy like Craig Ferguson, or something?
  5. Calibration

    How should I play this?

    I cold approached a girl on the street while going to the gym sometime ago and complimented her hair and I discovered she works at my office. So, I didn't take her number and left it at that. Fast forward a few weeks, she meets me in the office and tells me to message her on office messenger. I...
  6. Calibration

    Calls & Texts How can I change the frame over text?

    I met a super hot chic today in a park. Tbh, I was a bit intimidated by her looks (I know, I know). I opened her direct, complimented on her hair. She was investing and the conversation lasted a good 15 mins or so and I left the conversation since I had to go somewhere. She was a psychology...
  7. Calibration

    FU How to seduce when a girl is resisting lover frame due to past bad experiences?

    I'm not sure if this fits in the FU section, as you'll see below. Anyway, I met this cute chic a month ago in a supermarket. Had a brief interaction but she was into me I guess. I just opened with my name with a winky face over text but she wrote a whole paragraph about how she enjoyed our...
  8. Teevster

    LR Toe Jam: When Some Random Dude Starts Sucking Your Girl's Toes... (Teevster's Freakshow Report)

    When you think you have seen it all… until you realize you haven’t. Prepare for some good old freakshow calibre stuff here. This is a wild and weird one! The type of report I love writing! The type of report that makes me nostalgic for the good old wild days! It has been a while since I last...
  9. Calibration

    How can I frame a girl as a chaser when I was the one who literally approached her?

    This may be a basic question but I fail to understand. I mostly do cold approach and sometimes it's street approach where I literally run to approach her. Most of the guys on this forum seems to frame the girl as the one who is chasing. I get that it's a lot easier to game with that frame but...
  10. Retouch

    Frame battle about women equality

    What up players, recently I had a conversation with a couple of women where I wanted to start to warm her up for sex talk. So I began talking about how to seduce women (teasing, push&pull, flirting) in a playful way. Usually it gets her really attracted to me and it tells her indirectly that I...
  11. Jan

    She gets COMPETITIVE after I disqualify myself as a boyfriend

    It happened to me several times that a woman gets FRAME COMPETITIVE after I disqualify myself as a boyfriend. Usually she frames the situation as a date leading to a relationship, while I try to frame it as something leading to sex or FWB. I want to make it a COOPERATIVE situation for both of...
  12. Vision

    A Conversation About Frames (2008)

    I've been asked by some people in here if I'd contribute some of my old stuff from the Mystery Lounge in here. This series was something I wrote in 2008 after incorporating framing into my game and what I was doing. I hope you enjoy and find value out of this... A Conversation About Frames: You...
  13. mist

    Bring On The Fugly Bitches

    Hello friends! Been awhile :D. I've been kicking it in the chat and reflecting on sticking points, skill acquisition, my many failures, and fantasizing about the seducer I hope to become. The topic of this thread is asking for input on taking a "Fuck Anything That Moves" approach to flatten...
  14. Kaida

    Frame Challenge: Teacher throws you a bone, but you need more. How do you respond?

    Welcome to Frame Challenges, a fun frame control exercise where we present to you awkward, challenging, and uncomfortable situations and challenge you to frame your way out of them. Do you have what it takes? This was a scenario I was faced with recently and I think it would be a nice exercise...
  15. Razorlight

    Rich girl and you are just a poor guy

    Hi all, i am a construction worker 29yo who lives in Eastern Europe has an average salary, no car, no high fashion clothes and cant afford too much I have improved my game a lot, i know how to get a "6-7" average girls, but this is not a game, because we had a same value "naturally" This year...
  16. Darius

    Should you accept women's counter-offers

    Hello gents, Back with another thread, another conversation that went awry, and another question. This time from tinder. Matched a girl, we had a good conversation with good rapport. Asked to meet for a coffee and asked for her number. She refused to give me her number, and proposed insta...
  17. Darius

    Recovering after a big failure

    Hello everyone, Stupid thread incoming but one that I cannot shake off. I fucked up with my ex a ton, and acted in ways that were really stupid. My emotions got the best of me, I got weak and before I broke it off with her I essentially ended up dropping all sense of reason, chasing her and...
  18. Darius

    How much should one control his girlfriend?

    Hello everyone, I was going through my past relationship and seeing where I could have done things better, and I found this point to be incredibly difficult to solve. How much should one control his girlfriend, in a monogamous relationship? By that I mean, what would you allow her to do, and...
  19. M

    Getting in the zone causing awkward behavior

    I still remember this episode in my head vividly. I was a 17 year old virgin. Still in high school, had no idea this site or any of this stuff existed. I was leaving the library (yes) one sunny afternoon. As I'm innocently walking back to my car, minding my own business, I suddenly find myself...
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