A Part Deux of Alek's Fashion Article?

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I was just reading through Teevster's article on fashion and thought, "Hey, it'd be great to read a part two if he has some ideas/the inclination to work on it!"

Some topics of interest for me, are:
  1. Examples of outfits to wear. The first enumerated a good bunch of fundamentals. Those, accentuated with examples this time around, would be of great practical help
  2. Calibrating fashion to environments... and perhaps places where it pays to stand out more, and other where blending in is the way to go. This may be of help to anyone (like me) who errs on the conservative side of dressing far too often
  3. In his experience, the ideal physique to strive for, for the best look. I know that at the moment a loose consensus is a lean athletic look, but screw the consensus -- is that the sexiest to the most women? Can we not put on another 15-20lb of fat and muscle to look more lumberjack-ish, and wear flannel and boots? Of course, that may be one's own choice, but getting an opinion on what an urban, nightclub-going, modern woman prefers would be nice to know
  4. A summer fashion guide, for when the lockdowns end
  5. Any other pearls of wisdom from his experiences in the field of fashion

Alek if you're reading this, consider this a formal request for another article!
Thanks!
 

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Hey. Sorry for not getting back at you.

I may consider this request, although it is unlikely that I will do it for a few simple reasons:
- I don't write about something I am not an expert in. Not saying I dress poorly, quite the opposite. I am a fashion freak, a guy who has this as one of his main hobbies. But I honestly, if we have natural in pick up (guys who are good with women who do not know about the mechanisms behind his actions), then consider me a natural in fashion. I go by gut feeling. I do not have any particular rules of principles that I follow. This makes it difficult to touch.
- And teaching something is not the same as knowing or being good at something. This is something I learned the hard way at GC. I was good with women, and I knew what I was doing, but learning how to teach students my skills and make them truly understand the concepts is a whole different story. Took me a bit of time to grasp that.

I am very proud of my articles. And I have a certain standard I do not want to break. I hope you understand.
Examples of outfits to wear. The first enumerated a good bunch of fundamentals. Those, accentuated with examples this time around, would be of great practical help

This is very individual and depends where you go. I am a bit against the idea of telling people what to wear without seeing them first. One thing is calibrating outfits to their looks. But then there are other factors such as:
- What they want to achieve with the outfit
- Which social settings they want to frequent with the outfit
- The social codes of their environment
- Their personality. One thing is to wear a cool outfit, another is knowing how to carry it.

As you see, there are plenty of important variables at play and my knowledge in applying those variables to random guys is beyond my knowledge.

Calibrating fashion to environments... and perhaps places where it pays to stand out more, and other where blending in is the way to go. This may be of help to anyone (like me) who errs on the conservative side of dressing far too often

This really depends also on so many factors.
- There are 1000s of different environments. If not more.
- And it depends how rebellious you are. You can get away with dressing differently in a certain venues if you not only know how to tweak that outfit to the scene your a frequenting, but also you level of confidence (i.e. how good you are at "carrying" the outfit).
In his experience, the ideal physique to strive for, for the best look. I know that at the moment a loose consensus is a lean athletic look, but screw the consensus -- is that the sexiest to the most women? Can we not put on another 15-20lb of fat and muscle to look more lumberjack-ish, and wear flannel and boots? Of course, that may be one's own choice, but getting an opinion on what an urban, nightclub-going, modern woman prefers would be nice to know

I don't work ou. I have belly fat. I am not the guy to ask about the ideal physique lol.
A summer fashion guide, for when the lockdowns end

I never carried for summer fashion. I wear shorts and stuff just for comfort - not for "style".
Aside from lighter jackets (or dropping it totally) or switching them out to cool longarmed (always) shirts I do not do much to my summer style - aside from maybe adding sunglasses to the mix.


I hope this clarifies my reservations.
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Teevster
 

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Hey Alek,

That's fair, I understand you prefer writing articles about topics you (1) are consciously good at, and (2) can impart your knowledge. So that's cool. Thanks for getting back about this.

If you have the time/inclination, though, any resources on, or off the Internet you have for guys intending to improve their fashion? I understand that someone as invested as you are might learn intuitively, from everywhere...but any good resources or activities (to improve) for a beginner?

Thanks again!
 

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Hey Alek,

That's fair, I understand you prefer writing articles about topics you (1) are consciously good at, and (2) can impart your knowledge. So that's cool. Thanks for getting back about this.

If you have the time/inclination, though, any resources on, or off the Internet you have for guys intending to improve their fashion? I understand that someone as invested as you are might learn intuitively, from everywhere...but any good resources or activities (to improve) for a beginner?

Thanks again!

Hey no problem. Thank you for understanding.

Regarding resources for beginners : sadly no, I do not have any. I didn't get into fashion through the web, but instead hanged in certain circles (gay clubs mostly and then eventually fashion oriented night clubs).

I need to clarify that there is a huge different between "men's style" and fashion. The first one is about how to dress according to the current trends, and dress in a way that makes you look better.

Fashion is a totally different beast. It is art - it is alternative, it is creative.

I don't even know, nor care about current trends in men's clothing.

Best,
Alek
 
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Hey no problem. Thank you for understanding.

Regarding resources for beginners : sadly no, I do not have any. I didn't get into fashion through the web, but instead hanged in certain circles (gay clubs mostly and then eventually fashion oriented night clubs).

I need to clarify that there is a huge different between "men's style" and fashion. The first one is about how to dress according to the current trends, and dress in a way that makes you look better.

Fashion is a totally different beast. It is art - it is alternative, it is creative.

I don't even know, nor care about current trends in men's clothing.

Best,
Alek
That's interesting -- the difference between what you call style and fashion. Obviously, since most guys' goal is to just look better, just "style" suffises for most of us. Fashion's a cool subject though, and there's endless innovation/creative thought that's seen there, so... pretty fascinating. But thanks for chiming in man; guess I'm gonna start by befriending some fashionable gay dudes rn!
 

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That's interesting -- the difference between what you call style and fashion. Obviously, since most guys' goal is to just look better, just "style" suffises for most of us. Fashion's a cool subject though, and there's endless innovation/creative thought that's seen there, so... pretty fascinating. But thanks for chiming in man; guess I'm gonna start by befriending some fashionable gay dudes rn!

That sounds like a great idea. You are welcome to tag me in threads when you need my assistance. I don't mind helping out as a forum member. But as an article writer on the Girlschase mainsite, I have less leeway... But here.. I can allow myself to talk a bit more freely.

Best thing to do is to get a gay friend (who is into fashion - not all gay men are) or a fashionista like me (can be a stright guy or girl).

DO NOT FEMALES FOR ADVICE ON CLOTHING. It is always garbage advice - unless she is into fashion.
Fun fact: most women dress like shit.


Best,
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Quick pick of my indoor jackets.... I have another closet with outdoor jackets (denim jackets, leather jackets, coats (got 7 coats...) and i have a closed full of sweater jeans, t-shirts, etc.... At my dad's i have many more blazers.... (I only have 5 here, including 1 normal black)

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That sounds like a great idea. You are welcome to tag me in threads when you need my assistance. I don't mind helping out as a forum member. But as an article writer on the Girlschase mainsite, I have less leeway... But here.. I can allow myself to talk a bit more freely.

Best thing to do is to get a gay friend (who is into fashion - not all gay men are) or a fashionista like me (can be a stright guy or girl).

DO NOT FEMALES FOR ADVICE ON CLOTHING. It is always garbage advice - unless she is into fashion.
Fun fact: most women dress like shit.


Best,
Alek
Thanks Alek -- gotcha on the women part. I'll be sure to avoid querying women on my fashion sense. Especially those who, I myself, know, don't dress spectacularly. Stylish people seem to be quite common when you walk around in a big city, but actually, 95% of the people we come across don't dress that great. Even most of the cool ones. They may be trendy, but even then, it's too casual. Not much thought put into it.
And yeah, that's cool - I get you can be freer in the forum, less bound be other constraints.

Quick pick of my indoor jackets.... I have another closet with outdoor jackets (denim jackets, leather jackets, coats (got 7 coats...) and i have a closed full of sweater jeans, t-shirts, etc.... At my dad's i have many more blazers.... (I only have 5 here, including 1 normal black)

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Holy crap that is something! I checked out a bunch of your fashion posts, and despite knowing your propensity to flamboyance, didn't expect this kind of a wardrobe. After seeing this I'm gonna go buy myself a fancy-looking coat or two. My biggest problem so far, I'd say, is a dearth of adventurousness in my dressing. I have three coats: a simple leather jacket from Zara, a grey wool cardigan (that I think looks quite decent with my long hair) and a light blue blazer, which I quite like. So quite a traditional/boring collection.

Lemme see if I can find a colorful jacket/coat off the Internet
 

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Newbie here, altough geared towards classic mens style (which I prefer), Alan Flusser Dressing the man is a gold mine on how to complement skin tone, eyes and physiqe with color, fits and proportions (whichever style one chooses)

In a nut shell, clothing should draw attention to you, your face, eyes, not distract. And should complement your physiqe, minimize flaws and lift strengths

Styleforum.net is also a great resource.

Personally i prefer odd trousers, knitted polo shirt(fabric, style dep. on season) or dark shirts and sports coat blazer

sharp, masculine, not too dressed up, comfortable, works in almost every environment

Trousers are a bitch to find good fitting ready to wear, i dont wear "lady" cuts

High and wide, so you can eat, dance and kick :)
 
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Newbie here, altough geared towards classic mens style (which I prefer), Alan Flusser Dressing the man is a gold mine on how to complement skin tone, eyes and physiqe with color, fits and proportions (whichever style one chooses)

Cool thanks will take a look.


In a nut shell, clothing should draw attention to you, your face, eyes, not distract.

Here you lost me. Because you can have the most pretty face ever... if a girl is not seeing you in the first place, then it is all for nothing. This is where flashy clothes comes in.

Additionally, I fail to see how nice clothes become mere "distractions". I have never had this issue, and theoretically speaking I fail to see this happening IRL. Yes she may look at your clothes first - and then if she is curious she will want to check out the rest of the man - i.e. look at your face, hold eye contact and so on.

You need to elaborate more on this premise.
And should complement your physiqe, minimize flaws and lift strengths

Here I agree.
Styleforum.net is also a great resource.

Thanks will take a look.

Personally i prefer odd trousers, knitted polo shirt(fabric, style dep. on season) or dark shirts and sports coat blazer

Obviously not my style, but if you make it work, more power to you. I personally would not wear any of those items.

sharp, masculine, not too dressed up, comfortable, works in almost every environment

The word sharp and masculine is overused and abused in the clothing/fashion world, but means absolutely nothing, especially if you take into consideration trends, sex symbols and fashion from different eras... you will see tons of outfits that are considered more feminine and others that are considered more masculine. I think this distinction is bollocks. It is how you wear it, and in combination with what, and in which setting.

PS; women usually tend to favor masculine men who dress feminine, but hate feminine men who dress feminine.
Trousers are a bitch to find good fitting ready to wear, i dont wear "lady" cuts

What is a lady cut? Skinny fit? Baggy pants is rarely considered sexy (Casanova wore fucking stockings, Mick Jagger wore skinny pants, so did Axel Rose....

List goes on.

The only "masculine" item you mentioned here that is ACTUALLY sexy is the Blazer (or suit). Everything else is just dick crack - clothes designed to please men, and not the female eye.

Best,
Alek
 
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