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After seeing other people's journals and recognizing easier the mistakes, I want to do one also, for debugging my interactions with girls. I ll write about other things that goes through my life also.
Thursday, 10 December.
Had planned a date with a girl, R. The plan was to go out with her, in a park, then riding with her to her home, and going with the classic "I want to go to bathroom". I know this already works, because I used it. But, unfortunately, father of one of my best friends died, so I wanted to spent some of that evening with him. I still went to the date, tho, didn't want to let it tbh. Today, 13 December is my birthday. She knew and already bought me a gift, a hoodie. This was nice from her. Already investment from her side.
When me met, a lot of compliance from her side. I deep dived her, she told me a lot of her personal stuff, with her family. She had an abusive family, so we'll see how this turned with me. This is enough of a red flag, but in the first month it doesn't really matter. I m not really screening for ltr.
I had a good time with her, talked a lot, did some kino with her, laughed a lot to my jokes. We took a walk in a park. In that park I went with some girls, it's part of my routine. We stayed on a bench, said to her "Come closer". She complied and then went straight to kiss. We kiss passionately. Nice. But this was at the end of the date. We had to go, I had to be at my friend.
Took her at a ride with my moto. First time, she had so many emotions, but turned out to be good. She trusted me. Tbh, it was dangerous to ride my moto in december, when outside was about 7 Celsius, with a passenger.
Talked with her on 11 December, but a few replies since I was busy. Left her on read for a few hours. I think this change my attainability too much, because she left me also. Today, 13 December, we started talking again, said to her we should celebrate my birthday. Went for an invitation to cook some pancakes at my place. I ll see how this works.
Friday, 11 December
Another date, this girl A. This is a dentist. She came with her car, so this kind of logistics helped me. I think I need a car, especially for this kind of situations, with bad weather, too cold, or even going to a place, instead of metro. I can't ride my moto for too long now, since it will snow.
We went to a pub. Had some drinks. We stood at 90 angles, so I can touch her. I had compliance from the beginning, since she said "we go wherever you want", "we do as you want". There was some replies which I ignored, like "didn't know wheter to see you or not. we had the date because I replied to a story of yours", or "if I wouldn't go out with my friend today, I think I would have flaked". So, idk if those were some shittest, I said something like "no, you wouldn't. you wanted to go out with me".
We stayed for 2h, and then we stayed in her car. I took her to a nice place, on a bridge, with a view, stayed in her car, sometimes outside and listening to music. She was compliant like "do you want music? is it too cold in car? do you want to put music by yourself?" She didn't fully kissed me tho. I went for a kiss about 4-5 times, but almost at the end of a date did a properly one. Instead, she stayed in my arms. In car, I put my arm around her neck, gave her a massage, and she liked to somehow caress herself with my hand. She did that a few times.
She didn't stopped with some of her, idk were them but I ignored, replies like "you don t look so good, I look good". In term of fundamentals, I look very good. I dont have a proper haircut due the fact that I want to try to grow my hair, but other than that, almost everything is on point. "Why do you have rings?" "Because I like them". "No, I don t know what to say about them".
Her: Do you have a fuck buddy?
Me: What?
Her: Yeah, a fuck buddy. Do you have?
Me: If I want to do sex, I can call someone, but I don t want to do that, I mean -:> and here don't remember, but didn't gave an explanation
Her: You know what, you don't have to explain to me
Me: I m not. I just don't know what to tell you for this matter
Maybe here I should have go for "Yeah, I have thousands of them" or something cocky and funny.
We talked about sex also
Her: I don't like swallowing.
Me:Why? Because of the texture?
Me: Or taste? I ate fruits today.
Her: What? Why did you say that?
Me: Just saying. I eat fruits everyday
Her: Did you expected that from today?
Me: First day sex? No. And even if it would happen, so what?
This was in a total relaxed state.
I asked her to drive me home. She did. While going home, she was following my indications.
So, this girl was attracted, compliance, kino fuckin a lot. She even touched my dick accidentally, but I was too focused on kissing her. Maybe I should have just going for neck kiss and escalate from there. Will do that next time. Also, she put some songs that were a little bit too emotional and somehow took from my hardness because of the moment. I should be more aware of this.
What is interesting, as well as the girl before, is that, even if the compliance and attraction was there, we didn't text too much. Today, when I asked her to go out, I was feeling like just shooting my shot, but surprisingly, she responded very well, so I have to play with this more, I think. I m used to talk more on insta/whatsapp with girls, and building comfort there also.
She expected to have a 2h date. In total, we stayed for 6h. We should met tomorrow, 14 December.
Saturday, 11 December.
Maybe this is unorthodox, but I had the game in blood, so I had to do something. That day was this friend's dad funeral. I m sorry for him. Somehow fortunately, he wasn't so close to him, and he doesn't feel so much pain.
I girl from our social circle took me with her car. We had to buy something from mall. Lead her with my indications. Had also compliance from here. She let me put music on her phone, in car, gave her little orders. So, unconsciously, was thinking just on Gunwitch method, especially mirror neurons part. Strong eye contact, touching, some funny jokes, some sexuals, and a low deep voice made her a little bit aroused, I could feel. She said she feel safer with me in the car, since she doesn't drive too much. I have to give her some money. Requested her number on our group friends on facebook. She actually wrote her number in private(despite the fact that we re all friends from that group).
Her: xxxx number
Me: So this is the number to call when I want that good midnight ride, with a view?
Her: --something here--
Her: That doesn't sounds bad at all. It's a good idea
She s hooked. We talked about some little things and alcohool. Unfortunately, she s out of town, and we ll get togheter again in the New Year's night. We ll spend a few nights with a group of 20+ people. In that group is already a girl I dated and fucked. So maybe there's some preselection.
With this girls, and her friend I discussed many times about sex, men and women, so there's some sexual prizing.
It's fun to experiment this much. @Teevster latest article regarding Advanced Calibration really opened my eyes with some things that I felt, but didn't know how to point them.
One of the things I'm asking myself now is how 2nd date should be proceeded when 1st one was full of arousal, but due to logistics, didn't end up anywhere.
Due to my style, I end with 1st night lay from dates, but that's because I took care about logistics and vibe. Somehow I end up to their home, rarely mine.
After seeing other people's journals and recognizing easier the mistakes, I want to do one also, for debugging my interactions with girls. I ll write about other things that goes through my life also.
Thursday, 10 December.
Had planned a date with a girl, R. The plan was to go out with her, in a park, then riding with her to her home, and going with the classic "I want to go to bathroom". I know this already works, because I used it. But, unfortunately, father of one of my best friends died, so I wanted to spent some of that evening with him. I still went to the date, tho, didn't want to let it tbh. Today, 13 December is my birthday. She knew and already bought me a gift, a hoodie. This was nice from her. Already investment from her side.
When me met, a lot of compliance from her side. I deep dived her, she told me a lot of her personal stuff, with her family. She had an abusive family, so we'll see how this turned with me. This is enough of a red flag, but in the first month it doesn't really matter. I m not really screening for ltr.
I had a good time with her, talked a lot, did some kino with her, laughed a lot to my jokes. We took a walk in a park. In that park I went with some girls, it's part of my routine. We stayed on a bench, said to her "Come closer". She complied and then went straight to kiss. We kiss passionately. Nice. But this was at the end of the date. We had to go, I had to be at my friend.
Took her at a ride with my moto. First time, she had so many emotions, but turned out to be good. She trusted me. Tbh, it was dangerous to ride my moto in december, when outside was about 7 Celsius, with a passenger.
Talked with her on 11 December, but a few replies since I was busy. Left her on read for a few hours. I think this change my attainability too much, because she left me also. Today, 13 December, we started talking again, said to her we should celebrate my birthday. Went for an invitation to cook some pancakes at my place. I ll see how this works.
Friday, 11 December
Another date, this girl A. This is a dentist. She came with her car, so this kind of logistics helped me. I think I need a car, especially for this kind of situations, with bad weather, too cold, or even going to a place, instead of metro. I can't ride my moto for too long now, since it will snow.
We went to a pub. Had some drinks. We stood at 90 angles, so I can touch her. I had compliance from the beginning, since she said "we go wherever you want", "we do as you want". There was some replies which I ignored, like "didn't know wheter to see you or not. we had the date because I replied to a story of yours", or "if I wouldn't go out with my friend today, I think I would have flaked". So, idk if those were some shittest, I said something like "no, you wouldn't. you wanted to go out with me".
We stayed for 2h, and then we stayed in her car. I took her to a nice place, on a bridge, with a view, stayed in her car, sometimes outside and listening to music. She was compliant like "do you want music? is it too cold in car? do you want to put music by yourself?" She didn't fully kissed me tho. I went for a kiss about 4-5 times, but almost at the end of a date did a properly one. Instead, she stayed in my arms. In car, I put my arm around her neck, gave her a massage, and she liked to somehow caress herself with my hand. She did that a few times.
She didn't stopped with some of her, idk were them but I ignored, replies like "you don t look so good, I look good". In term of fundamentals, I look very good. I dont have a proper haircut due the fact that I want to try to grow my hair, but other than that, almost everything is on point. "Why do you have rings?" "Because I like them". "No, I don t know what to say about them".
Her: Do you have a fuck buddy?
Me: What?
Her: Yeah, a fuck buddy. Do you have?
Me: If I want to do sex, I can call someone, but I don t want to do that, I mean -:> and here don't remember, but didn't gave an explanation
Her: You know what, you don't have to explain to me
Me: I m not. I just don't know what to tell you for this matter
Maybe here I should have go for "Yeah, I have thousands of them" or something cocky and funny.
We talked about sex also
Her: I don't like swallowing.
Me:Why? Because of the texture?
Me: Or taste? I ate fruits today.
Her: What? Why did you say that?
Me: Just saying. I eat fruits everyday
Her: Did you expected that from today?
Me: First day sex? No. And even if it would happen, so what?
This was in a total relaxed state.
I asked her to drive me home. She did. While going home, she was following my indications.
So, this girl was attracted, compliance, kino fuckin a lot. She even touched my dick accidentally, but I was too focused on kissing her. Maybe I should have just going for neck kiss and escalate from there. Will do that next time. Also, she put some songs that were a little bit too emotional and somehow took from my hardness because of the moment. I should be more aware of this.
What is interesting, as well as the girl before, is that, even if the compliance and attraction was there, we didn't text too much. Today, when I asked her to go out, I was feeling like just shooting my shot, but surprisingly, she responded very well, so I have to play with this more, I think. I m used to talk more on insta/whatsapp with girls, and building comfort there also.
She expected to have a 2h date. In total, we stayed for 6h. We should met tomorrow, 14 December.
Saturday, 11 December.
Maybe this is unorthodox, but I had the game in blood, so I had to do something. That day was this friend's dad funeral. I m sorry for him. Somehow fortunately, he wasn't so close to him, and he doesn't feel so much pain.
I girl from our social circle took me with her car. We had to buy something from mall. Lead her with my indications. Had also compliance from here. She let me put music on her phone, in car, gave her little orders. So, unconsciously, was thinking just on Gunwitch method, especially mirror neurons part. Strong eye contact, touching, some funny jokes, some sexuals, and a low deep voice made her a little bit aroused, I could feel. She said she feel safer with me in the car, since she doesn't drive too much. I have to give her some money. Requested her number on our group friends on facebook. She actually wrote her number in private(despite the fact that we re all friends from that group).
Her: xxxx number
Me: So this is the number to call when I want that good midnight ride, with a view?
Her: --something here--
Her: That doesn't sounds bad at all. It's a good idea
She s hooked. We talked about some little things and alcohool. Unfortunately, she s out of town, and we ll get togheter again in the New Year's night. We ll spend a few nights with a group of 20+ people. In that group is already a girl I dated and fucked. So maybe there's some preselection.
With this girls, and her friend I discussed many times about sex, men and women, so there's some sexual prizing.
It's fun to experiment this much. @Teevster latest article regarding Advanced Calibration really opened my eyes with some things that I felt, but didn't know how to point them.
One of the things I'm asking myself now is how 2nd date should be proceeded when 1st one was full of arousal, but due to logistics, didn't end up anywhere.
Due to my style, I end with 1st night lay from dates, but that's because I took care about logistics and vibe. Somehow I end up to their home, rarely mine.
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