bruh you've been here for over a year wtf
I used the forums briefly this time last year, then fell off. Came back recently. Never read GC beyond like 10 articles; I got all my PU knowledge from ASF archives.
Teaching style and fitness has always been part of the community...i teach this as well, agayis we have a fashion forum selection... Is not practical to spent 200 forum post on this, it becomes narrow casting, not even puahate did that the original anti community look maxers, the most active forum was called shitty advice... you could start writing threads on how to get laid with your style suggestions like i have, again there is just so many posts you can make talking about the subject... My latest student was going to take a break to focus on fundamentals...i told him, not to got laid next day... This is exactly what happens cause
@KJ Francis trolling... Now we got a go in circles
Too boring and too obvious for me to write about. Yes, I have lots of thoughts on this, and I enjoy discussing style/fashion/fundamentals with other PUAs. But as you say, it's already been beaten to death. If people aren't reading and applying it, that's their own problem. I want to offer help to newbies, but I don't want to write the same old BEGINNER advice again and again.
Very very often, I start writing a well thought out thread, or a lay report about how I personally got a threesome and how I think people can learn from what I did, or I start writing an essay on some topic that I think is of grave importance and overlooked. But then what?
Skills/Spike write ad infinitum on style/fashion/fundies: 100 people read it, all replies are arguing/denying obvious truth, 10 threads pop up "HOW DO I GET NUMBERS FROM DAYGAME???" If these guys read and applied what has been thoughtfully written and what is very easily applied, they would get more than 1/30 numbers in daygame.
Someone writes a high effort post/LR: 2 responses, no useful discussion from advanced guys.
"How to lay transsexuals in Bogota?": 5 pages of discussion
"Is cold approach dead??"/"Red light?": 20 pages of heated debate
So I start writing my very high effort stuff on, for example, advanced understanding of frame control, how do cool guys naturally get laid more than 90% of PUAs, negative mindsets which damage PUAs, micro/macrocalibration, social circle metagame, and then I just stop. Because if I post it, I'm gonna get two responses, 90% of people who read it won't be at the level to apply it because they don't understand basics, and the 10% of people who do understand it I've already discussed it with them in a private group. Meanwhile, someone posting a thread about their great realisation, "Establishing comfort before taking the number gets me more dates!" generates 3 pages of discussion.
So, I don't care to write about fundamentals or style because it's completely obvious and solved 20 years ago.
What I do care to write about will receive zero engagement, and won't help anyone anyway because most of the board don't understand the basics of PUA on which my new ideas are built. So I just don't bother, and watch guys argue and discover stuff that I learnt in my first 6 months of study. This board is just entertainment to me. Maybe one day the culture will shift and I'll be motivated to contribute my ideas, but until then, I'll just watch the discussion about "I have perfect game but girls from my city have something wrong with them!"
So yeah in response to you Skills, I know and agree that style and fitness has been taught in the community forever. That's why I won't bother to engage with it for the most part, and why most guys need to shut the fuck up and listen to
@Spike and
@Skills and actually apply what they're writing. It's literally step 1 of game.
All this is to say, I
want to share my thoughts, but every time I get motivation, I just realise there's no point, and I discuss it in a private group instead, where I'll have guys give me actually useful feedback and add to my thinking. It's a shame that some guys who could have learnt/found it interesting then don't get to read my stuff, but it's disheartening watch a good thread get buried under reams of completely basic discussion/autism from trolls.
There's room for both. We have beginners who want to talk about this stuff, and that's good. Spike makes a post about Style and he gets lambasted. Skills makes a post about style and it's completely ignored, with obviously sub30 lay guys arguing against him. Why would I bother to post for the newbies? Instead of useful newb-helping discussion, it's just rot. I'd love to post for newbies if it made good discussion, but it doesn't. Posts for advanced guys are ignored. So I end up doing the opposite of what I joined this board to do, and post useless messages like this one. I think like half of my messages are just trolling/metacommentary on the board, the other half is ignored or restating obvious shit to people who just don't want to get it.
Spike and Skills are doing charity work restating the same shit over and over again to help people on this board, and the people on the board just won't listen.
I am also NOT an anti-pua guy, I
love the game, I love the theory, I love all the tactics and so on. I just acknowledge that having decent fundamentals is the BARE MINIMUM BASIC requirement to game. But I can't talk about advanced, or even beginner stuff, because most of the board right now is spent arguing over the bare minimum basic stuff that is the minimum requirement for game. It's like trying to talk about multiplication with people who not only can't do addition, but are arguing over whether addition is even important.
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