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Handling flakes is not fun.
But it can be. Some of the funnest lays are when you come back from a flake or multiple flakes, then somehow manage to meet her, and when you do, she's VERY into you and you fuck and you feel like you knocked some dude out in the 12th round, knowing that you'd lose if it came down to a judge's decision.
For some flakes, you get a simple, "Hey I can't make it today," with no emotion and that's it. You're done. You can follow standard operating procedure and say, "Aww
Okay, I understand," and this is good....but it won't help much. She didn't give you much to work with. Not even a reason.
However, there are some flakes that give you more.
She texts you,
Ah. This is something. She is flaking but gives an explanation and apologizes TWICE. Maybe it's a lie and she's meeting some other guy or she's just not interested, but she put in some EFFORT.
We see this and follow procedure, but wait for an opening.
She responds,
Okay, so good, so far.
Being a LITTLE sad, but mostly CHILL is a really good response. It shows you're human and did want to see her, so it's disappointing not to, but you won't slit your wrists later. Then you make some light joke to diffuse tension. Good.
She gives a standard response, acknowledging what you said.
Now...here's where some magic happens.
She responds
Now, you go deeper
Then,
Now you've got a cute little conversation going on...and guess what? She's forgotten, at least emotionally, about flaking on you.
It's like when you ask a girl home and she rejects you but still stays on the date and is interested. Do you let it bring you down? No, you regroup and keep talking, rebuilding interest, get some compliance, maybe spark some arousal, then try again in 20 minutes. Persistence is a lot easier in person, but it's possible over text.
What's even better is that the next time you ask her out, the conversation that preceded it was fun. And since you've got some texts between the flake and now, when she responds to you, she won't see the flake conversation above her on the screen. It won't remind her "Oh yeah, I flaked on him that day...and idk...I'm not feeling it again today," leading her to flake again.
Sometimes, I've done this and the girl, being excited by our new conversation that day or in the days after (if the conversation continued that long), would reschedule HERSELF.
So, it goes like this
1. You get a good flake (she puts some effort in her excuse/apology)
2. You respond with a HINT of sadness but mostly chill
3. She gives a small response
4. You bring up some new conversation topic in a VERY low-effort way (and the topic could be anything, just make it easy to talk about and maybe if it's cool, that's better)
5. Continue conversation for 5+ texts to shake off the bad vibes of the flake and put some texts between you and the flake conversation (so she essentially forgets it happened).
Do this and your flake-to-lay ratio will go up
Hector
But it can be. Some of the funnest lays are when you come back from a flake or multiple flakes, then somehow manage to meet her, and when you do, she's VERY into you and you fuck and you feel like you knocked some dude out in the 12th round, knowing that you'd lose if it came down to a judge's decision.
For some flakes, you get a simple, "Hey I can't make it today," with no emotion and that's it. You're done. You can follow standard operating procedure and say, "Aww
Okay, I understand," and this is good....but it won't help much. She didn't give you much to work with. Not even a reason. However, there are some flakes that give you more.
She texts you,
Hey, I actually found out that I need to babysit from noon, not 4, so I can't make it to coffee again
Ah. This is something. She is flaking but gives an explanation and apologizes TWICE. Maybe it's a lie and she's meeting some other guy or she's just not interested, but she put in some EFFORT.
We see this and follow procedure, but wait for an opening.
Oh
She responds,
Okay, so good, so far.
Being a LITTLE sad, but mostly CHILL is a really good response. It shows you're human and did want to see her, so it's disappointing not to, but you won't slit your wrists later. Then you make some light joke to diffuse tension. Good.
She gives a standard response, acknowledging what you said.
Now...here's where some magic happens.
She responds
Now, you go deeper
Then,
Now you've got a cute little conversation going on...and guess what? She's forgotten, at least emotionally, about flaking on you.
It's like when you ask a girl home and she rejects you but still stays on the date and is interested. Do you let it bring you down? No, you regroup and keep talking, rebuilding interest, get some compliance, maybe spark some arousal, then try again in 20 minutes. Persistence is a lot easier in person, but it's possible over text.
What's even better is that the next time you ask her out, the conversation that preceded it was fun. And since you've got some texts between the flake and now, when she responds to you, she won't see the flake conversation above her on the screen. It won't remind her "Oh yeah, I flaked on him that day...and idk...I'm not feeling it again today," leading her to flake again.
Sometimes, I've done this and the girl, being excited by our new conversation that day or in the days after (if the conversation continued that long), would reschedule HERSELF.
So, it goes like this
1. You get a good flake (she puts some effort in her excuse/apology)
2. You respond with a HINT of sadness but mostly chill
3. She gives a small response
4. You bring up some new conversation topic in a VERY low-effort way (and the topic could be anything, just make it easy to talk about and maybe if it's cool, that's better)
5. Continue conversation for 5+ texts to shake off the bad vibes of the flake and put some texts between you and the flake conversation (so she essentially forgets it happened).
Do this and your flake-to-lay ratio will go up
Hector
