What's new

From lame ass to badass. My transformation

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Went out. For the first time in a very long time and I got to say, most guys don't have a clue what they're doing and often drunk. So any attempt to make things happen falls flat.

But the cool thing about trying things out is that I learn to deal with new things, like disruptive guys and so on. I want to go out more often now.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Fun to read the old post from last year. Its been an amazing journey so far.

Girl on the bus
Sometimes girls give very little to work with. Almost no response or non-existing investment, but they can be nervous and don't know what to say. The reason? I approached a girl who was this way on my bus ride to Miss T. I saw her checking me out, so I tapped her on the shoulder as I made a comment about her purse.
We had a talk and although she was quiet, she kept answering my questions, still doing some investments (like taking off her headphones, saying it was okay to speak with me when asked and so on). I get off and realized I should have figured out logistics earlier.

Girl I know a little


Before that, I try to stop a girl a liked since high school. She passes by and I shout her name making her respond and asking who I am. I tell her we went to the same high school as her and that we've talked together before. She says she doesn't remember but I see she is intrigued. I make her invest, say I like her and ask "if she is single?"
She isn't but still keen so I did not know what to do.

I realize I am passing many opportunities by not engaging taken girls. If they show interest, should I just continue?

Other observations

Girls on the streets do not check me out as much as in other public places (restaurants, cafeterias etc). They seem more in their own world outside so it takes more refinement approaching them.

They also seem busier because of the cold.

And I haven't got any new lays since September and that's fine because I am working on other aspects of my game.
*Like looking for signs of interest.
*Better fundamentals.
*Relationship management.

December is around the corner and I want to spend my time approaching more girls. Let's see if I can up my rate soon.
 
you miss 100% of the shots you don't take

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Counting my lays
As I was counting my lays so far this year I realized I am doing better than I thought: 7 new lays so far in 2017. 5 of them from cold approach 1 from social circle and one from Tinder.

What a huge difference from 2016 when I had 5 lays, but only two and a half from cold approach (Icelandic girl is the half but I "text gamed" her for one and a half year before the lay, so it counts but it's not the same).

2015 was I year I spent in a relationship so I only had two (plus one oral session).

That's 14 in total.

I think I had 12 - or 13 in 2013 and 2k14 - around 10 the first year. That's a total of 28 lays in four years. Making it 7 a year.

But that number could have been 40 in total if I had just been single. And maybe 50 if I did a little night game the whole time? And what if I did a lot more dating apps and online game? I would probably be around 60!

But then I think that online would have made me lazy - its so much easier than cold approach and would make me approach cold a lot less. So maybe that number would have been the same. But with lesser skills than now.

A trade I guess.

Doing less, getting more
For the first time in my journey, I feel like I don't need to approach as much and work as hard to get some decent results. The main reason must be that I now can see which girls send me signals and know how to move forward from then. I still approach almost every day, but no more than two or three approaches.

And I either get warm receptions or a cold shoulder. It might be that girls know what I am about a lot quicker.

Another thing I think is working in my favor is improved fundamentals. Better posture, better fashion, nicer hair and so on. Those are easier to work with than voice, expressions and so on.

Girls seem also to test me a lot more. Earlier. And that's totally new this year. I think they see me as a potential sexual guy more often so they have to see how grounded I am. I used to hate it, but now I just welcome it. I need as much of this as possible!

A couple of new observations

So I've been going out to parties again, after a long period spending time by myself on the weekends and man, thanks to the work I've done so far, I see with much more ease the game. Which girls to flirt with, how to lead and how to make moves faster. I haven't got laid from parties the last months, but I always get some new experiences each time.

A couple of cold-approach guys are sending me messages lately. They want me to join then out again. I think its time to go out a little bit more, especially now that I drink so rarely. It so much more efficient!

Later I will post from an awesome text-conversation I had with a cute musician I met last week. Now I have to make myself ready for work. Talk to ya later!
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Remember this girl from a couple of posts ago?

I meet a friend and while we are talking, several girls start noticing. A girl looks at me as I say goodbye to him I start running after her. Introduce myself, give her a compliment, start talking about her day and deep diving a little. We trade some info (since I couldn't instant date her because I had a job appointment).


This is the one I had a cool text conversation with, as I wrote about in my last post. This is how it goes:

Me: (Private commenting on a recent Instagram picture). Nice pic!
Her: Hei Kristian, thanks, I am doing good, I was sick, but feel better already. (I sent her a couple of messages before that she didn't respond to)
Me: That's good. (send her a picture of my cats and the piano).
Me: How was your sleepover? (referring to an earlier convo).
Her: She went back. It was only for a couple of days.
Her: Nice piano.
Me: Thanks, it's not in tune now, but it works.
Me: So whats happening with you lately?
Her: (Sends me a picture of her organ player).
Her: I am rehearsing for a religious service.
Her: Its just work. Boring.
Me: Nice organ player.
Her: And then I work the whole day tomorrow. I am going to end up living in the church soon.
Me: Haha, you got to go out for adventures :)
Her: :)
Me: You live at Majorstuen, right?
Her: I am too old for adventures, I guess.
Me: Never too old for that!
Her: ;)
Her: No, I don't live at Majorstua.
Her: I have to rehearse now before the choir comes along. Talk to you later.

The window is closing. I got to react fast now.

Me: Wait a minute...
Me: I think we should meet one day. Hows your schedule the upcoming days? I am free tomorrow evening or Tuesday if you're keen.
Me: That was the main reason I contacted you.
Her: Can I ask you how old you are?
Me: (Thinking she might be in her early 20s): How old do you think?
Her: 25? :)
Me: Close what about you?
Her: 36
Her: ;)
Me: B)
Her: But thanks for showing interest.
Me: I am soon 32.
Her: ;)

Now she is objecting to her age. I am glad I did not say anything like "wow, you look 21". That would make me look like I just want young girls and her to auto-reject.

So I do this.
Me: I never think about age, to be honest. If there's chemistry, then there's chemistry.
Her: True that.
Me: (moving fast now) Ok. What day works for you, Miss M?
Her: What about Wednesday. There's someplace called Mundo Lingo. There are people from different countries who meet up and speak different languages.

Not the best dating option. So I do this.

Me: I don't want to mingle around. I want to know you!
Me: I can show you an awesome place in Grønland (That's close to my house, of course).
Her: Ok, we can try Tuesday and find some food there. I love the ethnic food they got there.
Me: Awesome. 18:00? Outside Deli De Luca by the Metro Station? A lot of places to choose from.
Her: ok.
Me: Then that's noted. My number is 99xxxxxx. Just in case :).
Her: Cool. See ya,
Me: Well do.

I managed to handle her objections, make her comfortable enough to invest and fall for my frame (the better date option). This message is an eye-opener because I am getting better at this.

-------

Some other observations

I am working with an event for my job this week and those give me a lot of exposure in a short amount of time.
*Like the cute girl who looks at me. Looks down and smile for a split second. I go after her, but by then she is saying hello to her co-worker as she enters the coffee shop. I just walk by.
*Or the one at the grocery store who looks at me at smiles for herself. I did not do anything there.
*Or two girls looking at me at one coffee shop as I order a cappuccino.
*I also talk to a random girl who blows me up as I approach. Two actually, no interest so I just excuse myself. No worries.

The cool thing is that I am changing my beliefs from: "I hope this girl like me" to "Let's see if this girl and I have chemistry". A huge difference I believe you only get by approaching so much that rejections stop bothering you.

Another thing I also observed: At events or social circles girls seem much less concerned showing me interest. I am already setting up dates with the voluntaries for the company I work for. I also get so much more signs of interest. That gave me a "lay" report to write about (I write "lay" because I couldn't get it up, for many reasons that I will tell you about next time).

Cant wait!
 

Alcman

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Oct 28, 2017
Messages
56
The cool thing is that I am changing my beliefs from: "I hope this girl like me" to "Let's see if this girl and I have chemistry".

I really like that mindset.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
First a quick video of a perfect approach: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HWY5Z69ckSY

I told you about the "lay" I had two days ago with an Italian volunteer that was working on an event my employer was throwing.

She has a nice face but not an attractive body. She is also well dressed, flirty an friendly. I know about friendly and flirty girls from my past so I did not take how she behaved with any consideration. Until she says the following.

Her: How old are you, anyway?
Me: I am 31 years old.
Her: So am I.
Her: I guess you have a lot of girls falling all over you.
Me: Why do you say that?
Her: I just see it (laughs)

Could this be it? I wasn't sure, and we were at work. I said I find her cute and when she laughs I also understood I could ask her out and say we can "do something when the event is over next week". She agrees and we trade numbers when the other volunteers did not see.

But I had a feeling I had to act fast. So I send her a message saying "we should hang out after work".

Her: But are you playing around or serious? Because I am not playing around fyi.
Me: I don't know yet. Let's just meet up and see what happens.
Me: What about 18:30 at xyz place?
Her: That's fast but I am on my way. Don't make me wait.

We meet up and as we walk towards a bar close to my place she starts asking "how often I do this" and "what do I say to the other girls?". I tell her the truth, that I am playing the field and having fun. She later tells me "she needs fun" after a failed relationship. I see where this is coming.

As we hang out at the bar she moves close to me only to move away saying "I am too hot". It doesn't take a long time before we start kissing.

Her: Let's get to your place. I want you to sing me a song.
Me: Agree

We get to my place and after 10 minutes we lie naked in my bed. I am hard and ready to penetrate when she says I have to use a condom.

Fuck I haven't used any for a very long time! It gets me off the mood.

And she wasn't my type at all. At least body wise. So after trying with the condom and trying to convince her to drop it - to no avail - I give her oral. She sucks my dick (with a condom on, which doesn't work) before I call it a day and follow her to a diner where we both grab a bite. I kiss her goodbye and realize what a weird "lay" this was.

Now I just hope this doesn't come back at me and bite me in the ass. If co-workers find out, things could get complicated.

-------

Other observations and refining my opener


I was on a date today. She was interested but did not follow me home. I will write about that later. I failed partly because I did not move fast enough and I did not escalate fully on high points (because I did not want people to see me "fail", but als because she wasnt contributing as much as I would like her to. But thats another story for another day.

On my date with her, another hotter and younger girl was really checking me out. Isn't it ironic?

I also flirted with a girl on the other side of the streets as I came back from visiting my sister. I later realize I just should have gone direct.

Other than that I still stop myself from approaching, some girls seem scary. I also sent a message to an Instagram girl. It ended in a fun conversation but nothing special.

Alright, I have to sleep now - but now you know that things are progressing.

I just got an e-mail from girlschase where he discuss this opener:

"I saw you walking here... [PAUSE] And I just
HAD to come tell you that... [PAUSE]... You
have THE most luxurious walk I have seen all
day. I'm Chase."

Those pauses are golden. I think its time to incorporate it.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Ok guys!

Many things are happening as I am working on my relationship skills with Miss T and approaching a ton of girls at the same time. This is fun but also a little draining because I have to keep an eye on both skills - which are totally different - at the same time as I am working harder than ever and making music. Fun but hard.

Well, as I worked on the event with my employer today I also got the chance to talk to many women.

*Like the really hot 17 yo that I couldn't get my eyes off. I tried to get to know her several times, but I made it hard for myself by being self-conscious.
*Or one of the interns that I got introduced to today. I tell her I find her cute, after seeing her checking me out. She replies "Well, thanks?" and walks away. So I end up auto-rejecting.
*And then we had a couple of cuties I went fairly direct with, but couldn't close because I felt it wouldn't be professional. I got one number, but don't feel its a solid one.
*Then I went to write my report at a cafeteria nearby. I get to introduce myself to a cute brunette. She responds well, but her orbiter friend appears and she gets self-conscious. I still get her number, but it doesn't feel solid.
*Then I stop a cute blonde girl. I give her a genuine opener, with the pauses Chase recommends on my last post. She likes it but says she has a bf.
*Then I stop another girl. I do like the Good looking loser by holding her hand as we speak. She digs it, but also moves a little away. I ask for her number, she says she can give me FB. I decline and warmly leave her.
*Then I talk to another girl on the bus. Fairly cute, but she is getting married soon. No worries.

At home away from my friend, I notice something special, girls start checking me out. Many of them as well. Might it be that all the momentum from previous girls made me sexy and they could see it from my vibe?

I was too tired to make any moves so I just passed them by. I later realized I could just have approached to see what happens. At least all these interactions made me aware of state and approaching many girls. Interesting!
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
One quick note, I finally realize that the best option is to approach a ton (from 6 and upwards) to get real results. I've been only speaking with 1 - 3 girls a day and that's just not enough if you want to learn or get results.

*And it does something with my vibe.
*I stop obsessing over any particular girl.
*I have more sexual energy, making me seem pre-selected.
*It seems like my testosterone levels go up.
*I make girls smile - even when it doesn't lead somewhere.

Amongst a ton of other benefits. Guys, if you're not approaching every day, you're really missing out. Its never easy, but we learn a lot faster than those who just rely on social circle/online.

Okay, over to the actual approaches.

1. A blonde girl with glasses that I just had to talk to. I open without being noticed. She smiles but gently let me down. Great, at least we are getting started!
2. As I start working on the event I start flirting with the cute Arab girl that is one of the volunteers (I really can't seem to get enough of her). I tell her "We should do something when the event ends this weekend". She agrees and is very into me every time she sees me (nervous, giggly and so on).
3. Another blonde girl at the even (one of the guests) it's not easy to make a proper move without her co-workers (teachers) starts noticing, so nothing substantially happens there.
4. Another blonde girl looks my way. Looks down and smile as we lock eyes. As I go out of the bathroom I do the genuine compliment followed by the "are you single?"-approach.

Miss Andie
And then I just click with girl number 5. She looks at me, smiles slightly and I start commenting on her t-shirt (it had the text "I prefer to wear red lipstick"). She laughs at this and I end up working a couple of tables in front of (as I was sitting in a cafe writing about the event). Then she looks my way and smiles again. This was it - she wanted me to do something about it, but I need to strike in a moment when she had to go to the bathroom or to order something.

Then she does, and as she waits in line I give her a genuine compliment saying I "had to comment on your t-shirt earlier because I find you cute, Kristian is my name".

She instantly hooks we trade numbers, she says she is single and I say we should do something. I later excuse myself from there saying I "can't wait to see you again", when her female friend went to the bathroom.

Never did I talk to her in front of her friend. Then I just sent her a message asking how studies went and to set up logistics for our date.

The rest of the girls

Girl 6 and 7 did not end with anything as 6 said she was waiting for her boyfriend and 7 did not want to give out her number because I talked to her in front of her friends (I think she wouldn't reject me if she was by myself, as all girls I ever been with are either by themselves or from social circle/online dating).

Girl 8 was on my way back from home. She says she is married so nothing there as well.

At least I am seeing many patterns. Many patterns as I see this. And I see things I did not see at all (available girls, how to approach, what to do and so on).
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
I see a girl passing me by. We lock eyes and I turn around. Nice ass. I start running after her and do my pre-opener before delivering my genuine compliment. With pauses and everything. She looks at me with both awe and suspicion.

Me: But I really think we've been introduced to each other. Haven't we?
Her: (More intrigued) I would have remembered that!

We start talking a little but she is really in a hurry. I say "we can talk next time if we happen to bump into each other again".

No worries, there are so many girls out there.

Sexual energy

Remember the cute Arab girl that has been flirting with me lately? It seems she likes me. It seems she is very eager to meet me. And I believe that she is a virgin.

First Miss T (who only had one sex partner before me) and now this girl? It seems like my new sexual vibe makes these girls very into me. Might it be that they need someone to open them up sexually, but who knows?

I walk down the city and get many IOIs. Receptive girls checking me out. I start running after a couple of them but see there are with parents (these are late teens/early 20s). I have tried to pick up girls in front of their families before. They love it but it usually doesn't end in anything substantially.

Other than that. I had an off day today - meaning I was more concerned with work that picking up. My mindset is, however, changing and that's awesome.

Tommorrow is Miss T day. I almost can't wait!
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
I don't know why but I feel a little unease. Nowhere near last years depression. I just feel like something is wrong without knowing what or why. It just feels empty when I am alone, and that means I am not as comfortable with myself. What could be the cause?

But when I go out and meet people, especially girls, I feel great. I look for women everywhere - so turned on and trying to flirt with, number close or take out on dates, the most interesting women I find.

Haven't been approaching that much since Saturday, since I had Miss T visiting me. But that did not stop me from signaling eye-contact with receptive women. These are some of those I remember.

*Like the girl that was with her guy at a local bar. She looks at me with intensity in front of him. Several times.
*Or a cute girl I pass by that smiles back. I was in a hurry so no approach.
*Then we have the cute cashier at one cafe. I look at her and smile when I catch her looking at me.
*And what about the blonde bombshell at a small festival yesterday? She looks at me with expectation. The pure sexual energy between us. I was with Miss T, so nothing happened there.
*The brunette at the same place looking at me and smiling for herself as if she thought: "Finally, a hot guy".

And those are just one-third of all strong signals. I get so many these days it's difficult to keep track.

Miss T looks at all these and becomes more "in love" than ever. We make love 5 - 6 times and she can't wait to meet me again.

And that's cool.

A funny thing is also happening, as I become better at detecting women's signals and approaching, I also become less concerned with rejection. I also give girls smaller windows nowadays, if she doesn't respond, I won't push. But I am always open if she makes an effort for us to meet up. I also try to get "answers faster than before". Like asking straight up "if its gonna happen or not" since I don't have much time to tip-toe around. She is either down, or not.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Waking up today and looking at myself shirtless in the mirror: I can see some definition, a little more muscle mass, clothes fit me a lot better and so on.

But the real difference is the mental one, I feel much more alive, horny, take more chances, doesn't care about rejection as much, work better, is more aggressive into getting what I want and many other things. This is the main reason why I lift heavy, doing compound movements only - like deadlifts, squats, bench press, bent over rows, shoulder press, hang ups etc. I want to activate my whole body, working out so heavy that I don't need to do this more than three times a week for 45 minutes each time.

I am not aiming to become big, just lean, defined with a little booty and a v-shaped back.

I also stopped showering every day and just do that twice or three times a week (when I work out) in order to have that natural testosterone smell that some women react well to. I do some visualizations (not as much as before but still), do intermittent fasting (which boost my hormone levels and burn off fat but keep my muscle mass), amongst other tiny little things.

This is the part when seducing becomes a lifestyle. I am not doing this sporadically anymore, I want to become the lover and there's a lot to do and so little time...

My thoughts so far
Aaaaaaaand, I finally reached 30 lays, a huge step for me and the real goal I had when I left Susan (girl I was in a relationship with for 8 straight years and the only woman I ever had until the age of 27!). I did not know if that was even possible but it is. I could even have fucked ten or 15 more girls if I just stucked to it instead of getting derailed by a couple of relationships (that showed me what not to do).

The reason I spent 8 years with Susan was that she wore the pants, made the shots for what to do and so on. It came to a big thing when my life course was moving to a place I did not want to (house, 8 to 5-job, a huge loan and so on), mix it with a totally different worldview and then you understand why it became almost impossible to continue. Four years later, I still not regret leaving her - but it's sad we can't talk anymore.

A new lay

Remember Miss Andie? I wrote about her a couple of posts ago, I can quote from that just in case:

nd then I just click with girl number 5. She looks at me, smiles slightly and I start commenting on her t-shirt (it had the text "I prefer to wear red lipstick"). She laughs at this and I end up working a couple of tables in front of (as I was sitting in a cafe writing about the event). Then she looks my way and smiles again. This was it - she wanted me to do something about it, but I need to strike in a moment when she had to go to the bathroom or to order something.

Then she does, and as she waits in line I give her a genuine compliment saying I "had to comment on your t-shirt earlier because I find you cute, Kristian is my name".

She instantly, hooks we trade numbers, she says she is single and I say we should do something. I later excuse myself from there saying I "can't wait to see you again", when her female friend went to the bathroom.

Never did I talk to her in front of her friend. Then I just sent her a message asking how studies went and to set up logistics for our date.

The same day as the date (last evening) I send her the following text:

"Hi Andie, are we still on for today? I will be inside the store since its cold outside. I will be wearing a dark grey jacket and blue jeans, just so you know.". She replies "that's cool, see ya".

When she appears she wears a big smile, I give her a hug (in order to start being physical very fast) and then we start walking to the place I take almost all my girls at. We sit in a couch and I suggest that I buy the first drink and she can buy the next (a good thing to say in order to not pay for dates - and make her commit to hanging out for more than an hour).

We start chit-chatting a bit and I can see she really likes my presence. I start touching a little: she responds by standing her ground and getting nervous. A very good sign.

The thing with dates is that you have to find something to spike her emotions enough to be escalated on, not always the easiest thing to do (in my case), but when I mention that I love animals, she melts completely. Finally something we both share and I start touching her hands (I had to eventually!).

When she buys the drinks for us she asks (a test, I guess):

So how old are you?
Me: Take a guess.
Her: No, that's almost impossible.
Me: I believe you are in your early 20s, maybe? Since you go you go to university.
Her: Yes. I am 20.
Me: Oh, that's cool.
Her: You must be 21?
Me: No.

We start playing the "the guessing game" and after a minute I say "I am 31" (followed by complete silence). She gets excited now (because I owned my age and passed the test).
I kiss her and tell her "I love how she does it".

Her: You kiss good too.

We talk a little bit more and in order to invite her home, I touch her a little here and there "so she gets it". I always get nervous when I hate to drop the bomb, but she got glad I did (and the bar is 8 minutes walk from my place).

As we go home we start taking off each other's clothes the same minutes she enters the room. Two hours later I follow her to the metro-station and kiss her goodbye.

The main reason I get to move that quick is that I show girls that I want "to tears their clothes off" from the very moment I see them (long stares, a little touch longer than usual, inviting her to take a drink on evenings and so on). I also use silences to my advance to increase sexual lust.

Well, that's that. Do I want to see her again? Absolutely! Will it happen? I don't know. The sex was great and her body amazing (huge tits). Lets see what happens in the future.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Nothing worth noting today since I've been working and running from meeting to meeting.

But I managed to approach one girl that did not send me any signs and was even married. Still, better to do one approach and commit than none. Later a Turkish girl checked me out before looking away. She was wearing hijab and with a female friend, so no approach there.

So I spent the day on fundamentals and working out.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
They did not mention it at all, but I am so horny it's getting ridiculous. I look at women with so much lust these days it's difficult to even concentrate.

And they sense that.

Some girls get warm around me. Some even blush when I approach. This is totally new, I did not know it could be this way.

The one with the blue eyes

On my way to work I see a new cafe two girls sitting inside look at me I walk inside and ask:

Me: Is this a new cafe?
(The cutest girl responds with a big smile): Yes it is.
Me: Wow. It used to be a frame shop before. So weird to see how the city is changing now.
Her: It is.

I introduce myself after giving her a genuine compliment and start talking about her accent and where she is from. Of course, I guess wrong when I try to find out where she is from. But since she likes me she sees through that I am not perfect (a reason to have fundamentals on lock, girls start forgiving mistakes a lot more).

She says she is waiting for her friend to join her to read for the exams. I see this as a window to ask fast before her friend arrives. I say "we should take a coffee soon". She says she'd love to and give me her number as she agrees that she is bad at responding to IM.

Girls that aren't interested say they can give you their FB or IG. Girls that like you prefer their number - just so you know.

I say I will get in touch and leave her at a high point. I could have deep dived a little bit more, but who cares. At least my approaching skills are getting to new heights.

The married one


Then I went to the store to buy some milk for the coffee machine here in the office. A woman in her late 30s smiles back. Nice body. My type of looks (Nordic).
I wait at the exit after I pay the cashier. She plants herself in from of me in front of the post office.

Me: Hi there. I just saw you inside the store (PAUSE).
And I have to tell you (PAUSE) I find you really cute (smile).
Kristian is my name.

She looks at me in disbelief and suspicion. She is also intrigued so I just say the following.

Me: Did I scare you? I don't mean to do that. I just find you cute and I don't do dating apps (smile).
Her: No. But cool that you approach. It's not common here at all.
Me: So are you waiting here? Which way are you walking after this? Can we walk a little together?
Her: Yes if you are willing to wait.
Me: Me no problem.

The "did I scare you"-line worked wonders here. I think I will use that to disarm girls that get suspicious.

Then I spend the next 4 minutes deep diving. She tells me about her past career and her new job as a stewardess. I try to close her, but she tells me she is married but glad I talked to her. Then she asks "if I do this often," I say "only when I am intrigued, you did that to me". She smiles. I say goodbye and she cant believe what just happened. I give her a warm hug.


That's that so far. I might talk to some girls after that.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Maybe girls want me to move even faster - like going for instant dates then and there. Or maybe it's just the name of the game - many of the girls I talk to will not show up, no matter how good I become of how much I sweep them off their feet when I approach.

I have never had better approaches than now and that's mainly because I got good enough to read signs of interest from girls. Then I incorporate the pauses Chase wrote about in the newsletter. That, along with better fundamentals make many girls react very well and almost hand out the number to me telling me to "send them a message". Could it be that I am too smooth?

I don't think so. Seduction is ultimately a numbers game. We will see if that's the case or if I need to refine it a little more. After all the advanced players get one or two new lays a month. I should be glad if I start racking up those numbers.

The one that couldn't believe it

So on my way home from work I spot a cutie looking back at me. I couldn't resist and run after her. I do my pre-opener and she looks at me almost in shock.

Me: Hi there. I just saw you (PAUSE).
And I just had to come over (PAUSE) to tell you I really find you cute. Kristian is my name.
Her: Ehhhh...
Me: I am so sorry if I scared you or something. I just thought you were cute so I had to introduce myself.
Her: (Still in shock but also intrigued).
Me: Well, then since I don't believe in Tinder or bars to meet cute girls. Let me start off by saying that I am on my way from work, that I am going to buy some underwear and that I want to get to know you a little as well.

I basically helped her by pacing her reality. She then starts talking back (finally) and the conversation is getting a lot better. A guy walking the same way stops just to see my approach and I was glad I had a great interaction in front of him (just so he knows what possible. I hope it inspired him). It turns out she has bf but is very intrigued and startled. I was going to ask for an instant date anyways, but it turns out she is a hurry (a meeting). I warmly leave her and she still looks at me in disbelief. ;)

The one at the store


This must be more of a typical "flirter" as she responded well, gave me her number after joking a little, deep diving and telling her she is cute.

Half an hour later I ask her how she doing and then I just invite her out (as promised in our conversation). She hasn't responded yet.

Other thoughts

That means that if it continues this way (good responses but a little lacking in results) I have two possibilities. To either have more investment from the girl or just go for the instant date (and instant lay, like I had earlier this autumn).

I have to give it a week or two to conclude.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
I was going to write yesterday but spent the whole day writing work stuff and hanging out with Miss T - who lately has given me some new insights about relationship dynamics as well.

So I have been approaching a little, even when I am too tired and running from place to place. Nothing substantial here since both girls weren't that interested. But I was, on the other hand also looking for signs of interest in order to train myself to "see the game" even better.

*Cute Asian girl smiling at me from a food van.
*Cute blonde girl that I stop when she smiled back. Before she looked my way, I thought to myself "look at me" and she did. She was on her way home, to her bf so nothing here.
*Cute blonde at a bar I entered to borrow their restroom on my way to Miss T. She smiles at me as I leave.
*Cute brunette staring at me when she was with a group of girls on my way back home from Miss T.
*Younger girl with hijab I stare at through the window. She smiles back as well.
*Cute cashier yesterday as Miss T and I go to the food store to buy some candy. Smiling and pupils dilating. This one made Miss T, even more, exited to be with me.

This is when the game starts to slow down for real. It is also so much easier to figure out women once you become better at understanding their signs they send out.

The Vibe aspect of game

When I started this journey for real two and a half years ago I thought everything was so mechanical - you say X and then expect Y to happen. Now I see it mostly has to do with fundamentals, and fundamentals have a lot to do with what you feel inside. And as I spent the first part of this day listening to the following podcast with Chase and Cody Lyans https://www.girlschase.com/content/cody-lyans-how-meet-girls-quiet-guy-podcast, I understood that my game is moving from being mechanical to vibrational.

*Because I am more sexually attuned, many girls seem to catch that.
*I see them differently. As sexual beings, wanting to make love. Just like I am.
*There a lot of non-verbals going on between us. A sort of nice communication there none other than me and the girl understand.
* I have a better understanding of the usage of tension.

I think these things has made a greater impact on my game lately, while my fundamentals has been almost the same. I see that I need to work on them a little more now that know some things about the vibe aspect.

Miss T and relationship management
I know that women love to be lead.
I see how women you date react positively when they see you as pre-selected.
Sex make them even more in love.
Mix it with great fundamentals and you easily become the best guy they ever dared to date.

But as I continue to date Miss T I also uncover the fearful avoidant part of myself. To know more about there attachment styles, you should read this baby: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Attachment_in_adults#Insecure

After my mismanagement with Ester and with another girl I was dating I understood why I ruined a lot of what we had: The thing is that I tended to sabotage past relationships istead of wanting to get closer, out of fear of being abandoned. The thing is that I end up being abandoned because I break their heart.

Ive worked a lot inwards lately, trying to understand my triggers behind these patterns. And man, it can be the smallest things:

*Like when I see Miss T. meeting me and I interpret her stare as she "doesnt want me anymore".
*I tried to kiss her while she was making dinner to us. And she was in a hurry.....


To be continued... I have an appointment.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Just like last weeks, when I got laid with Miss Andy, I cold approached a lot and almost every single girl I caught looking back at me. Those days are very educational in many ways because I become able to see more patterns and pieces I believe I miss to make the game more efficient.

After leaving Miss Ts apartment I decided to do some work at a cafe nearby- and what a place. Girls from three nearby schools and colleges were walking by as I sat close to the window a lot of them cute and some were even signaling me their interest. I decided to do something I've never done before. See the girls walking outside and run after them if I saw a cutie. It did not take a long time before I found one that looked at me with interest.

Me: (After pre-opening, I was nervous as F) I just saw you from inside, and I had to basically run after you and tell you I find you very cute, Kristian is my name.

The fact that I owned the "I just had to run after you" made her melt. She was contributing a lot to the conversation, and there were tension between us, but I also knew she had a boyfriend. I asked her and she said she lives with him. That was alright, at least I set the tone for the day.

The second one was also one of those. And even when I stuttered my opener I made her invest. She was in a hurry to a dentist appointment, so I couldn't move her then and there (and besides I had a deadline for a job that had to be done). We traded Instagram (I see that I could just have gotten her number).

The third one did not send me any signs, but I saw her earlier playing piano at the library. Stunning Russian girl who gave me her number, not a solid one, I believe.

The fourth one mistook me for someone else when she looked my way. And wasn't interested.

The fifth one gave me strong signals. We talked for a while. I made her invest and deep dive. I tried to go for an instant date, but nothing happened.

-------

Thinking back again there was one ingredient missing. These girls found me cute, they gave me their numbers and contributed. But I couldn't get any sparks from them. Maybe there weren't that interested in me?

I think I will start implementing these two things every time for a couple of weeks:
1. Fast and intense physical escalation with sexual tension.
2. Asking them if "they're single every time". No exceptions.

Let's see how that would work.

I also have some other observations as well.
*I tend to be better socially when I am fasting and I think it has something to do with heightened hormone levels (like testosterone).
*Within seconds I can find out if a girl is going to give me a real chance or not.

*I want to build a little more muscle mass.
*I want to pay for a coaching session or two.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
The nice thing about flexible working is that I don't need to be at the office. I can also work from coffee houses, lounges, libraries and so on - exposing me for women and lessons as I approach.

So today I decided to work at the same spot as I discovered last week (the one with three schools and colleges nearby). On my way, I already spot a fairly cute girl staring at me. I stare back but made an excuse for not closing because she wasn't cute enough. I could have just warmed up with her, who knows what could have happened?

The Spanish looking one

Then I enter the coffee house, a girl notice me as I talk to the clerk inside, I make a comment to spark a conversation:

Me: Do you speak Spanish?
Her: ??
Me: Hablas espaniol?
Her: No, I don't. (Smiles)

I try to go from here and deep dive a little. It turns out she is half Egyptian. I make a funny remark about that but excuse myself, figuring out I had to start working because I have a couple of deadlines.

Later I open her again, but now the window seemed to be closed. She had to deliver a paper in an hour so she wasn't responding that well. I wave her goodbye as she leaves and understands the need to just close then and there instead of waiting and not escalating as fast.

The one with boyfriend
As she didn't want to be interrupted, I spot a girl looking at me from the outside. Then stopping to "see her phone". I thought this could be a sign so I run out and give her my genuine compliment opener.

She gives me "oh, that's cute but no thanks"-vibe and when I ask her if she is single, she responds that she is on her way to her bf.
I go from there and happy for at least making me first real approach for the day.

I try to look for hot girls as I was sitting on the cafeteria. But also too concerned with some tasks from work, I wasn't that "on" like last time. It was also starting to get dark. And darkness makes me not notice girls that pass by.

Other observations
On my way back home, a girl looks my way. She was cute as well, but I was freezing too much to make a conscious effort. Looking back I could have just moved her to the closest mall and maybe go for an instant date.

As I was walking some errands another woman looks my way. This one cuter than the other girls as well, and she was even smiling at me - she couldn't make it more obvious! She was, however walking with a guy: "Could it be her boyfriend? Or maybe her friend?" I thought to myself. Not realizing I can just start a conversation either way. The chance of me meeting her again is slim to none.

Three girls in total that were sending me strong signs of interest!

-----------

I also realized that picking up girls is also seasonal as well, at least when you try to set up dates with girls between 19 - 26. We all know that winters are not as easy, but what about exams?

*Mid-summers are hard, since many girls are from small towns and country-side. They either go back home or go for a vacation.
*Before Christmas and May are also hard, because they all have exams. So not that much time to meet guys.

The best times are:

*After summer-vacation. New girls in town, ready to meet new people and single.
*January and february. Winter depression sets in and women need some loving.

Things to improve:

*Talking to cute women that send me signals. No matter the circumstance.
*Sexual tension.
*Better fundamentals.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
Haven't been approaching that much this week since I've been working mostly and rehearsing for a gig this weekend.

But have, however, made some observations about myself and women in general.

*I do not get triggered by girls like I did before. They can test, they can stop responding and they can even reject me harshly on the streets.
The last thing happened on Monday when a girl starting running away as I tried to deliver a compliment. Her reaction made me laugh.

I was going to meet up with Ay yesterday, I was looking forward for it and then she flakes on the last minute. Instead of feeling empty like I've done for years I was glad I could instead devote my energy making music.

The things that made me react a couple of weeks ago with Miss T is not bothering anymore. We are talking about small things about her that triggered me but I am over it.

*Girls can come back, stronger than ever.
Miss A a good example. She has been busy for almost four weeks and now appears wanting me more than before and saying she misses me. I think it has something to do with me not chasing that made her realize my value.

I had one nice conversation today. With a girl a complimented on the streets a couple of weeks ago. I remembered her, stopped her again this time and asked her out. All in all a good approach, but then she caught me checking out an attractive girl as we parted ways. I think that made her auto-reject.

And then I had a couple of girls checking me out.
*Like the one at the post office.
*One smiling at me on the bus.
*One at the elevator as I was leaving it and she was going inside.
*A woman visiting my employer.
*A couple of girls looking at me and then looking down.

And these are those I can recall on. I believe I will start talking to every girl that fo this soon. No exceptions.

One more thing: You know I had a huge one-itis throughout 2017 (Miss J.). As I look through her photos, I finally don't feel anything. Our bond is broken and I can finally say that I moved on. 100%.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
So I did some night game last evening since a friend of mine feels down and needed to loosen up a bit. I was drunk too so I don't remember the details of every girl.
However, because I was being forward in my interactions with girls, I got tested a lot.

"We are from Norway and we are sisters" (responding to my "are you also fro Russia).

Me: "That's cool me and Kristoffer are twins as well, don't you see that?

Or what about this one...

"Oh, you look like the nicest couple ever. How long have you been together" (older woman at the bar).

Me: For 3 years. We are getting married soon and will travel to the Maldives in January.

Things like that. Since girls seem to go out in groups and/or with a guy or two, it is also totally different from a social standpoint. I can engage one girl, but then she can reject me hard if I do or say something wrong. And the whole group can be against you if they don't like you.

But I managed to have one nice conversation with a girl at a fast food restaurant. I started commenting her headphones, saying they were nice. Then I just went genuine telling her I wanted to talk to her and had to find an opening. She thought it was adorable and her pupils dilated. I tried to close but got the "boyfriend"-answer.

Todays daygame

I woke up today. Eat breakfast. Had a conversation with my flatmate and decided to go out and systematically day game. Haven't done that in ages because I incorporate it into my daily routine. However, I needed to learn new stuff and discovered the following:

*You don't always need to get signs from girls as I truly discovered when I stopped two young women I found very attractive. They could feel it. Both of them were eager to meet up. Both said they were single. They loved my forwardness and were keen on contributing to our conversations. No resistance at all. But logistics were bad (as both had appointments to attend to).

*Then I had those who kindly rejected me. Also very attractive. They were also happy that I approached them. Three girls actually. And one with the best ass I've seen in ages.

*And then of course, we had those who rejected me a little hard (walking away from me and not wanting to talk anymore).
And it had nothing to do with my lack of technique. My voice was deep, slow and I pre-opened as I wanted to. I also used pauses in between sentences as I delivered my genuine compliment.

Things to improve

But what about touching a little more? I should definitely do that.
I should also be even more sexual.

And I could improve my text game, that's for sure. One in every four-five girls are single and want my number, but many don't respond when I send them messages. Theres something going on that I need to find out.

But I am a lot better at seducing. Of all the lays I had, no one had LMR involved. Women know what I am about, and I can often transition from mid-game to seduction without any problems. My openers are good, but the transition from attraction so deep-dive could be the thing that's stopping me from having a lot better consistency than now.
My goal? Two new women a month and being able to convert them to FBs if I want it to happen. I want them to have nice asses too, haha.

Ok. That's all for today, next time we will see what adventures are lying ahead.
 

kristian

Tool-Bearing Hominid
Tool-Bearing Hominid
Joined
Sep 11, 2015
Messages
470
There should be a way to save all my posts first before putting them online. But I will write as much as I can in five minutes.

So talking to girls is easy now, finally. They open and almost all of them give me the time to deliver a compliment and deep dive a little. Hey, I even get numbers a lot easier than before.

But as I've been seeing lately, the numbers aren't strong at all. One issue is that I started talking to those who don't send me any signs. Thats okay, but the other half are at least slightly interested. I can also get some of them hooked but to no avail. Should I start touching more? Be more attainable? Sexual? I tried many different approaches, but I still plateaued.

This is the part where I seriously need some coaching to get more dates. I want to find some experienced ones in order to get direct feedback on what to work on.

On the other hand; Almost all girls I get on a date, I kiss. And almost all girls I get home, I get able to fuck. Being one on one with a woman has become pretty straightforward. I can convey several things, like sexual lust and pass tests in order to seduce them.

Opening is also a nice thing. However, something happens in between and I do not understand what. So I want to start diagnosing some issues here in my mid-game in order to get dates consistently.
 
Top