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@HeartOfChaos,
Well, that's how it is then.
Anyway, if I wanted to marry a Slavic girl, I probably wouldn't move to Central Africa.
But if I did move to Central Africa, I like to think I'd be realistic with myself and ask myself, "Well, would I like to marry a Central African girl, or would I prefer to depart Central Africa?" rather than pulling my hair out looking for the one halfway decent Slavic girl who occasionally visits Central Africa then trying to turn her into my bride.
You are compromising due to scarcity.
Presumably it is at least part due to your location.
The woman you choose to build a life with is one of the most important decisions of your life.
She is the woman who is going to have a bigger influence on you, your thoughts, dreams, ambitions, liberties, etc., than almost anyone else. She is also going to birth you children who are a lot like herself. e.g., if she is confident and ambitious, they will be confident and ambitious. If she is depressed, LSE, and on pills, well guess how your kids are likely to be.
If that is the best you can get due to skills, location, etc., then fine. But it is worth asking yourself if there is anything you can do to change any of those factors. "Location" seems like the obvious one.
Due to scarcity...
Yeah, lots of guys do this in scarcity.
It is called "finding a project."
It is very risky.
Sometimes the girls don't evolve... sometimes they do but after they do, look around and say, "Wait, why am I with THIS guy? I can do a lot better than this guy NOW..." If you are expecting gratitude, that is not always (or even often) how it works..
Well then you are not in a position to be either a.) trying to logic your way into commitment with girls or b.) trying to take it slow with girls.
Ever seen a broke guy or a guy with a chaotic life trying to slow-court a girl? It is always a disaster.
If you're going to be the chaotic guy, you need to start acting like the chaotic guy.
The whole "date for 2 years, then propose; engagement for 2 years, then marry; married for 2 years, then child" does not really work when you are the dude living an unstable, unreliable life. That is the path for very stable husband-material men who want to take things slow and slowly prove to the girl that they are reliable while also carefully vetting her for her own reliability.
You are not in that position.
If you are at the point where you want a wife, then either you need to get a lot more stable than you are if you are trying to pursue the "take things slow and court her in a traditional slow manner" path, or else you need to start moving a lot FASTER.
There is a reason why unstable guys elope, knock chicks up, etc., etc.
And that is because if the unstable guy tries to go slow, she is going to get cold feet and bail.
Get stabler or move faster; you are going to have to pick your poison.
Chase
I wrote above that a big factor here was that I am simply not meeting the right women in terms of ancestral background. I personally believe that if I was in either my country of origin X or my "second" country Y I would have found a girl to settle down with a long time ago.
Well, that's how it is then.
Anyway, if I wanted to marry a Slavic girl, I probably wouldn't move to Central Africa.
But if I did move to Central Africa, I like to think I'd be realistic with myself and ask myself, "Well, would I like to marry a Central African girl, or would I prefer to depart Central Africa?" rather than pulling my hair out looking for the one halfway decent Slavic girl who occasionally visits Central Africa then trying to turn her into my bride.
The current girl is one of the few who actually ticked some boxes that I'd be looking for long term, notwithstanding all her problems. Regarding her problems, I tried working with them... I would still work with them... I told her this and she knows... I wanted to give it a real go first, I was really going for it this summer on a personal level with her but she already started to detach...
You are compromising due to scarcity.
Presumably it is at least part due to your location.
The woman you choose to build a life with is one of the most important decisions of your life.
She is the woman who is going to have a bigger influence on you, your thoughts, dreams, ambitions, liberties, etc., than almost anyone else. She is also going to birth you children who are a lot like herself. e.g., if she is confident and ambitious, they will be confident and ambitious. If she is depressed, LSE, and on pills, well guess how your kids are likely to be.
If that is the best you can get due to skills, location, etc., then fine. But it is worth asking yourself if there is anything you can do to change any of those factors. "Location" seems like the obvious one.
Years ago stuff like depression were also a hard no for me, but my views on life have adapted.
Due to scarcity...
I wrote earlier that I want a girl to evolve with me and I was willing to try hard to achieve this with a chick I actually was connected to rather than searching for yet another one who may appear tomorrow or in 5 years, while I am not getting any younger.
Yeah, lots of guys do this in scarcity.
It is called "finding a project."
It is very risky.
Sometimes the girls don't evolve... sometimes they do but after they do, look around and say, "Wait, why am I with THIS guy? I can do a lot better than this guy NOW..." If you are expecting gratitude, that is not always (or even often) how it works..
I am of mixed ancestral background and I am aware this creates a dichotomy in my mind and long term plans. Further, the career path I was on also made things extremely difficult in terms of stability and income. This goes back to " I don't know what I'm doing with my life exactly right now", and not even right now, but for the last decade or so. Now things are better, but far from optimal, and right now is as best as it was in last 3 years...
Well then you are not in a position to be either a.) trying to logic your way into commitment with girls or b.) trying to take it slow with girls.
Ever seen a broke guy or a guy with a chaotic life trying to slow-court a girl? It is always a disaster.
If you're going to be the chaotic guy, you need to start acting like the chaotic guy.
The whole "date for 2 years, then propose; engagement for 2 years, then marry; married for 2 years, then child" does not really work when you are the dude living an unstable, unreliable life. That is the path for very stable husband-material men who want to take things slow and slowly prove to the girl that they are reliable while also carefully vetting her for her own reliability.
You are not in that position.
If you are at the point where you want a wife, then either you need to get a lot more stable than you are if you are trying to pursue the "take things slow and court her in a traditional slow manner" path, or else you need to start moving a lot FASTER.
There is a reason why unstable guys elope, knock chicks up, etc., etc.
And that is because if the unstable guy tries to go slow, she is going to get cold feet and bail.
Get stabler or move faster; you are going to have to pick your poison.
Chase