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PrettyDecent said:It's also important to remember that no man is born adept with women. The men you see on the streets with the most 'gorgeous women' have put years into learning...behind closed curtains, and since they were 13-14 years old.
To add on to PD's comment, it's important to remember that some guys have just gone out and "socialized" with women since an early age. I have friends who go out all the time to bars just to hang out and have a few drinks, and in the meantime, they are talking to women here and there. Some of them are consciously trying to hit on them, and others are unconsciously doing it. Regardless, they are going out every weekend and being around (attractive) women. If you have very little social experience with women as it is (disregarding experience trying to bed them and take them as girlfriends), then you're naturally going to have a steeper hill to climb to get where you want to be.
I've mentioned this on the boards before, but my background was very different from Chase's. I've been social with women since I was a kid; I was on sports teams in school where I interacted with female athletes; in college, I threw my own house parties where I bought booze for everyone to drink (and my social value skyrocketed because of things like this); after college, I went to bars/clubs/beach parties and socialized with very attractive women. I didn't have nearly as much success as I would have liked to have had, but it's mostly because I didn't know back then what I know about women now!
So when I came to this website, I was able to grasp many of the concepts very quickly because I had technically been "out in the field" for most of my life! But if that's not you, then it's going to take a lot of time, patience, and determination to get where you want to be. As Nick mentioned, determined's journal is a good topic to see what it takes to start from the very beginning. Just don't lose sight of the goal, and remember that every failure means you are getting a little more experience and a little bit better!
- Franco