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Disclaimer.- This is not a moral post i am not a pastor, i am going to show you actual ways in which older men are getting laid with younger women..... Cause i am tired of the constant coping posts every few months.... I have addressed all types of copes from living at home, not money, looks,height etc... I know chase has some stuff on race cope (I am ethnic latin so for me the race cope is meh, but chase has articles on the race cope that are better than anything i can write). But i forgot about the age cope..... I totally forgot, but it seems to be another issue now a days.....
Everything i am writing is my opinion based on my life experiences and what i see on the field, nothing is kj, but again my take, my shit, my opinion...
So first the different types of older guys, i called older 38 plus, you have a bunch of beginners, autist and kjs calling older guys in their 30s.... which is retarded, anywhere from 30-38 is prime, (more money, more confidence, more sexual experience, more field experience, more muscles) and women target this demo a lot, i never had to put effort into seduction till i was 47, before that was super easy(and i don't know if is age or post corona gen z shit, i still think is the post corona tbh)...
- The Peter Pan guys: I made up the term, some normies call them "middle life crisis guys" but i think that term is retarded and it is just to shame men.... These are guys that were in long term relationships since a very young age or even their 20s the marriage went to shit, and they want to "catch up",,,,, no necessarily has to be a marriage or a long term girlfriend..... It could be guys that, were never good with women through the teens, or in your early adulthood stages and missed out and now want to try again..... Could be guys that were in some type of business, or even medical issue etc.... It could be guys like me that came post high school to usa and missed almost 5 years of youth getting acclimated to USA, studying etc... The commonality of Peter Pan Guys is a window of years were they were not having the dating, fuckaton stages in those years...
- The eternal playboys.- These are outliers that just decided to devote life to hedonism.... (probably me) very unusual just extreme outliers...
- Normal older men.- These are just really normal guys which is a majority of the population, they have no interest in women that are that young to be honest... They will start seeing them as daughters, or little girls, they still think they are hot or cute, but they are genuinely not attracted to such a big age gap. A lot of seducers of course can not understand this... They think is cope, or they are not good at seduction or they can't, which is extremely annoying arguing with this people... They always mention to point the none sense outliers like "Leo Dicaprio"....
- Former playboys.- These are older guys that actually fucked a lot of women including A LOT OF young women in their youth and now they have not interest on younger women... People assume again, cope or ______ excuse..... But their preference is not younger women.... Finally, they think "preference" means that if a hot 18 year old comes and open the legs they will say "no i am sorry you are too young" because they don't understand the word preference or they are projecting their OWN PREFERENCE.... I thought really hard and deep on why, cause is hard to explain, i try explaining this many times, and i hope those guys come around here when older and say "oh shit skills you were right"... But i will try my best to explain.... most of you know the term "post nut clarity" means you seduce a girl and you finally bang her, everything is awesome and after you bust that nut, you are like fuck now what, let me get the fuck out...... When you are older you get PRE NUT CLARITY, so since you have a lot fucks, you experience pre nut clarity, i will give you an example "that girl is hot, but when i fuck her and start to date her, we will be in different life stages, i will have nothing really to talk about and in common with her, she will be extremely annoying and clingy" you will be a live nostradamous pre interaction based on 100s of interactions, and you will say "i am good"... Again does not mean you won't bang her, is just the effort to reward ratio wont be there for incentive/motivation... You will typically be attracted for women 5-20 years younger, anything above that will not really be your preference, does not mean you will not bang... A lot of normal older guys will experience this as well...
When most guys picture older they think this:
^ that is shit! none of the cool older guys that i know or myself look and dress like that.... First what i count as a younger girl, for me a younger girl is a girl that is 15-30 year age gap.... It can be done from cold approach, i am still doing it... But there is no way around this since is you will polarize, no matter what you may have to put more numbers and/or effort (not always)... Most of the guys that are in the forum and i know that get younger women put tons of work and effort..... Even spike put a fuck tun of effort (working on fundamentals, logistical advantages in venues, researching target demos, picking right jobs etc... dude takes it to insane extreme though), that makes it look easier...
I am going to dedicate first to cold approach, then to other ways... But first the 3 types of younger women:
- women that no matter what will date and older guy.(again older 15-30 age gap)
- women that under right circumstances may date older guys
- women that prefer older guys... They want the mentorship, security, sexual advance experience...
just lol (intentionally left out light system lol)^
Fundamentals is important as an older man.... You need to be in shape, does not have to be a body builder just no fat, cause one of the keys to seduce younger women is to try to have your looks age around 30s, to make it much easier..... Look at the difference in this video of how guys in their 30s became the sex symbols (i know is outdated millennial sex symbols but just to make the point)..... From the forum couple of older guys are very fit thominho and pob for example, are top 1% shape for their demo thominho in the 30s and pob in the 40s...... :
Style.- You need to have a cool style for your niche demo and keep updated for the times... For example i go to gen z clubs, my current style is baggy, jewelry, shoes, cap, all that gen z shit, on style now it makes a bit easier when i am seducing younger women, for the gun 3 keys the social.... But you can also archiotype for your demo, @DonGately gets younger with suits and shit like that, successful biz archetype, just different style of game for the type of gen z demo clubs i go to. but he gets it done too... (i will talk about that style of game as well later)... after certain level of fitness i put style higher for club game than fitness....
hairstyle, facial hair etc... Again to cover the social aspect, for example i got rid of my beard totally just doing the pedo mustache gen z style...
Edit.- I totally forgot the skin care like @Dreamer he is in his 40s getting teens, plastic surgery, hormone replacement and hair transplants... i will totally forgot...
^ water is wet, i know now lets go to the game aspect of older game nuances:
- for cold approach day game nothing changes much or at all...- Problem you will have is when lying about age (if you do), she searching and finding your age, it may be an issue..
- For night game you will have to pass the social aspect to be in the group and go a bit under radar.
- online game you have to use premium to get rid of age display (i think there 1 app that does not allow it) or just lie about the age... Cocporn is in the 50s girls young girls on apps. So does pob.
post 38 your age may be too polarizing.... Not recommending lying about age, but I usually use 35- or 38 some girls think i am lying or not, i don't care is just my plausible deniability IF THE SUBJECT COMES UP.... Most girls tbh that like you, won't bring it up, cause they also want to be seduced and will look the other way.... however if you are a Jehovah witness use this post on how to deal address age gaps
Different ways older get younger:
- Highest value guy in the club.- for example i am the highest value guy in the dance floor.... ex.- Club owner, club promoter, club bouncer, club dj, vip tables........
- High value guy in a biz.- Owner, manager, top sales guy etc.... You are sub communicating high status, and you are a boss, people under you leader ship role... Some women are attracted to leadership, dad figure, mentor figure...
- Position around young women.- Cook, waiter, strip club bouncer, strip club manager, model scout, tv producer, music producer etc.... You are just around young women and you have a higher position...
- Sugar daddy bait and switch.- Sugar daddy game i detest but people think is paying for sex, and yes but not always, a lot of guys do BAIT AND SWITCH.... So they have the money, they have the status, the girl gets in the head that she will "get that money or that status" and works for the her goal, the dude strings her along, bang her and she does not get anything, after couple of fucks she is hook.... I hate this type of game but a bunch do this type of game... Usually guys with money.... if you don't know how to do it can backfire cause a lot of girls will boyfriend zone you, if you don't know what you are doing.... I also don't like that i don't feel is genuine sexual desire that i crave, is like invisible transactional. For this style being in shape is not that important... (tony soprano and tom lykes)
- Scumbag older game.- Guys will just offer women, modeling gigs, or being in a movie, or _______________________ benefit but they have to do this and that.....
- Role model game (scumbag game).- These are role model presidents, teachers, pastors, counselors, martial arts instructors, gym instructors, massage therapist.... that use their position to bang young women.....
- Geo arbitrage.- Guys move to third work countries to use "visa" or "illusion of better life in the west" or "soft pay for play" or "just pay for play".... Passport bros, not impress at all by this dudes... This is not as effective as once it was since decline of USA... but still people doing it....(caleb jones aka blackdragon does a version of this)
Regular seduction community type of game.- You can be also older and do any ____________ community legit method, but you will have to put a lot of effort and more numbers due to polarization..... age gap....
Most of the posts in forums are guys in the later 20s and early 30s complaining how "they are soo old" when their issue have 0 to do with the "being old" they are usually.- unattractive, autistic, black pillers, incels, beginners etc....
Most guys that are the top guys in the forum are mainly in their 30s.... which make sense is their prime years... At times they are annoying, cause they are projecting their prime, into other guys that are not in their prime coming across super annoying... "just be confident" "just look good" type of minimalistic advice a lot of the time useless... But they can't tell, i know cause that was me in my prime in mpua forum i used to give the same subpar advice...."don't talk and escalate" was my favorite phrase...
Everything i am writing is my opinion based on my life experiences and what i see on the field, nothing is kj, but again my take, my shit, my opinion...
So first the different types of older guys, i called older 38 plus, you have a bunch of beginners, autist and kjs calling older guys in their 30s.... which is retarded, anywhere from 30-38 is prime, (more money, more confidence, more sexual experience, more field experience, more muscles) and women target this demo a lot, i never had to put effort into seduction till i was 47, before that was super easy(and i don't know if is age or post corona gen z shit, i still think is the post corona tbh)...
- The Peter Pan guys: I made up the term, some normies call them "middle life crisis guys" but i think that term is retarded and it is just to shame men.... These are guys that were in long term relationships since a very young age or even their 20s the marriage went to shit, and they want to "catch up",,,,, no necessarily has to be a marriage or a long term girlfriend..... It could be guys that, were never good with women through the teens, or in your early adulthood stages and missed out and now want to try again..... Could be guys that were in some type of business, or even medical issue etc.... It could be guys like me that came post high school to usa and missed almost 5 years of youth getting acclimated to USA, studying etc... The commonality of Peter Pan Guys is a window of years were they were not having the dating, fuckaton stages in those years...
- The eternal playboys.- These are outliers that just decided to devote life to hedonism.... (probably me) very unusual just extreme outliers...
- Normal older men.- These are just really normal guys which is a majority of the population, they have no interest in women that are that young to be honest... They will start seeing them as daughters, or little girls, they still think they are hot or cute, but they are genuinely not attracted to such a big age gap. A lot of seducers of course can not understand this... They think is cope, or they are not good at seduction or they can't, which is extremely annoying arguing with this people... They always mention to point the none sense outliers like "Leo Dicaprio"....
- Former playboys.- These are older guys that actually fucked a lot of women including A LOT OF young women in their youth and now they have not interest on younger women... People assume again, cope or ______ excuse..... But their preference is not younger women.... Finally, they think "preference" means that if a hot 18 year old comes and open the legs they will say "no i am sorry you are too young" because they don't understand the word preference or they are projecting their OWN PREFERENCE.... I thought really hard and deep on why, cause is hard to explain, i try explaining this many times, and i hope those guys come around here when older and say "oh shit skills you were right"... But i will try my best to explain.... most of you know the term "post nut clarity" means you seduce a girl and you finally bang her, everything is awesome and after you bust that nut, you are like fuck now what, let me get the fuck out...... When you are older you get PRE NUT CLARITY, so since you have a lot fucks, you experience pre nut clarity, i will give you an example "that girl is hot, but when i fuck her and start to date her, we will be in different life stages, i will have nothing really to talk about and in common with her, she will be extremely annoying and clingy" you will be a live nostradamous pre interaction based on 100s of interactions, and you will say "i am good"... Again does not mean you won't bang her, is just the effort to reward ratio wont be there for incentive/motivation... You will typically be attracted for women 5-20 years younger, anything above that will not really be your preference, does not mean you will not bang... A lot of normal older guys will experience this as well...
When most guys picture older they think this:
^ that is shit! none of the cool older guys that i know or myself look and dress like that.... First what i count as a younger girl, for me a younger girl is a girl that is 15-30 year age gap.... It can be done from cold approach, i am still doing it... But there is no way around this since is you will polarize, no matter what you may have to put more numbers and/or effort (not always)... Most of the guys that are in the forum and i know that get younger women put tons of work and effort..... Even spike put a fuck tun of effort (working on fundamentals, logistical advantages in venues, researching target demos, picking right jobs etc... dude takes it to insane extreme though), that makes it look easier...
I am going to dedicate first to cold approach, then to other ways... But first the 3 types of younger women:
- women that no matter what will date and older guy.(again older 15-30 age gap)
- women that under right circumstances may date older guys
- women that prefer older guys... They want the mentorship, security, sexual advance experience...
just lol (intentionally left out light system lol)^
Fundamentals is important as an older man.... You need to be in shape, does not have to be a body builder just no fat, cause one of the keys to seduce younger women is to try to have your looks age around 30s, to make it much easier..... Look at the difference in this video of how guys in their 30s became the sex symbols (i know is outdated millennial sex symbols but just to make the point)..... From the forum couple of older guys are very fit thominho and pob for example, are top 1% shape for their demo thominho in the 30s and pob in the 40s...... :
Style.- You need to have a cool style for your niche demo and keep updated for the times... For example i go to gen z clubs, my current style is baggy, jewelry, shoes, cap, all that gen z shit, on style now it makes a bit easier when i am seducing younger women, for the gun 3 keys the social.... But you can also archiotype for your demo, @DonGately gets younger with suits and shit like that, successful biz archetype, just different style of game for the type of gen z demo clubs i go to. but he gets it done too... (i will talk about that style of game as well later)... after certain level of fitness i put style higher for club game than fitness....
hairstyle, facial hair etc... Again to cover the social aspect, for example i got rid of my beard totally just doing the pedo mustache gen z style...
Edit.- I totally forgot the skin care like @Dreamer he is in his 40s getting teens, plastic surgery, hormone replacement and hair transplants... i will totally forgot...
^ water is wet, i know now lets go to the game aspect of older game nuances:
- for cold approach day game nothing changes much or at all...- Problem you will have is when lying about age (if you do), she searching and finding your age, it may be an issue..
- For night game you will have to pass the social aspect to be in the group and go a bit under radar.
- online game you have to use premium to get rid of age display (i think there 1 app that does not allow it) or just lie about the age... Cocporn is in the 50s girls young girls on apps. So does pob.
post 38 your age may be too polarizing.... Not recommending lying about age, but I usually use 35- or 38 some girls think i am lying or not, i don't care is just my plausible deniability IF THE SUBJECT COMES UP.... Most girls tbh that like you, won't bring it up, cause they also want to be seduced and will look the other way.... however if you are a Jehovah witness use this post on how to deal address age gaps
Different ways older get younger:
- Highest value guy in the club.- for example i am the highest value guy in the dance floor.... ex.- Club owner, club promoter, club bouncer, club dj, vip tables........
- High value guy in a biz.- Owner, manager, top sales guy etc.... You are sub communicating high status, and you are a boss, people under you leader ship role... Some women are attracted to leadership, dad figure, mentor figure...
- Position around young women.- Cook, waiter, strip club bouncer, strip club manager, model scout, tv producer, music producer etc.... You are just around young women and you have a higher position...
- Sugar daddy bait and switch.- Sugar daddy game i detest but people think is paying for sex, and yes but not always, a lot of guys do BAIT AND SWITCH.... So they have the money, they have the status, the girl gets in the head that she will "get that money or that status" and works for the her goal, the dude strings her along, bang her and she does not get anything, after couple of fucks she is hook.... I hate this type of game but a bunch do this type of game... Usually guys with money.... if you don't know how to do it can backfire cause a lot of girls will boyfriend zone you, if you don't know what you are doing.... I also don't like that i don't feel is genuine sexual desire that i crave, is like invisible transactional. For this style being in shape is not that important... (tony soprano and tom lykes)
- Scumbag older game.- Guys will just offer women, modeling gigs, or being in a movie, or _______________________ benefit but they have to do this and that.....
- Role model game (scumbag game).- These are role model presidents, teachers, pastors, counselors, martial arts instructors, gym instructors, massage therapist.... that use their position to bang young women.....
- Geo arbitrage.- Guys move to third work countries to use "visa" or "illusion of better life in the west" or "soft pay for play" or "just pay for play".... Passport bros, not impress at all by this dudes... This is not as effective as once it was since decline of USA... but still people doing it....(caleb jones aka blackdragon does a version of this)
Regular seduction community type of game.- You can be also older and do any ____________ community legit method, but you will have to put a lot of effort and more numbers due to polarization..... age gap....
Most of the posts in forums are guys in the later 20s and early 30s complaining how "they are soo old" when their issue have 0 to do with the "being old" they are usually.- unattractive, autistic, black pillers, incels, beginners etc....
Most guys that are the top guys in the forum are mainly in their 30s.... which make sense is their prime years... At times they are annoying, cause they are projecting their prime, into other guys that are not in their prime coming across super annoying... "just be confident" "just look good" type of minimalistic advice a lot of the time useless... But they can't tell, i know cause that was me in my prime in mpua forum i used to give the same subpar advice...."don't talk and escalate" was my favorite phrase...
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