I had a weak foundation and not sure what I want out of life anymore.

Mr.Rob

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Again, @Oh Pry what I said the other day...

Go find your people, your clan and go crush it together.

Like go actually DO that for a year before coming back to post about the problem again.

If Mr. Hands can find 11 other like minded guys that enjoy getting ass fucked by a horse for fun SURELY you can find 5-6 likeminded guys that enjoy picking up girls and having crazy nightlife experiences.

No excuses. Go take action.
 

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Grand Pooba said girls do not want to DATE a broke ass 35 year old. They will still FUCK said 35 year old if he's attractive (https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...one-skill-to-rule-them-all.22502/#post-112370)

Yeah this is what I meant - girls won't date you, but yes they'll still fuck you. This also helps to set up a pure lover frame. I've known plenty of women whom are super successful and financially well off, but they'll still fuck a deadbeat and even have a FB set up with him. As long as he's attractive.


enough where your not living paycheck to paycheck anymore

The other thing is having your own place. You don't want to be a 35 year old living in your mom's basement....

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Around what age does it really become a problem though? Is it 40s where you start to feel that loneliness and want to start a family? Does the guy feel that way himself or is he too old too continue pickup and can’t get attraction at that time?

And does the player lifestyle really get old? I know dudes that are and were players in their 40s, 50s, sometimes 60s still messing with different women, even though were in a relationship and married with a family.

Chase also has said that after a certain amount of time and experience in pick up or being a player, the guy never fully settles down 100%, he still messes around here and there and I have seen that too as well.

Is this something really to worry about?

I have thoughts about age, but it isn’t about society or not fitting in with them, it’s the attraction I worry about, with age I worry about attraction and not being able to do well at all with attracting many women.

I want to always be able to attract women forever, that’s my main goal, I want options and abundance.


First, i have never felt lonely per se, i am addressing the op... I have never gone through dry spells or things like that... i had always had girls, the only time was after my 10 year break up, that i took some time off (which i recommend) about a month.... i am addressing oh pry, this is something i do not worry about, my mom does worry and other people.... I am the happiest dude i know lol.... Bro my lifestyle women, no debt, no kids, no marriage is the best, i am happy as fuck..... But you need to understand me 45 hanging out with a married dude and his family at 45 will not go well for obvious reasons.... my ex player friend the one that taught me i see him twice a year thanksgiving and christmas in family gatherings.....

they make a bet every holiday that i will bring a new girl, is the joke of the party, same with my family.... They are numb to it
 
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I think that unlike being younger where you know girls will love you for your looks, with age you need to overcompensate for more. You have to have status or wealth, it is why the older guys I see cleaning house are owners of the club or in model photography. You almost have to live with the fact that you will need money and she will go for you for things other than your looks while for younger men, your bargaining chips are your looks.


here you go kj, no neceserely... here you go back again with this crap, when are you going to stop with this, we were making some progress... come to south florida and meet me i am 45 we will go out and i prove you otherwise...
 

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It's not "overcompensate," it just means you should have life handled. Girls don't want to date a 35 year old guy with the maturity and resources of a 21 year old. It also depends - if you're going for pure lover with a girl, she might not care as long as you're attractive.

lol, i almost go off on you, you fix it at the end, ok lets say is a friday or saturday night

so i am skills i am 45, i am not wealthy at all....

i go to a club and i meet a hot young girl...

now she has 0 idea what kind of car i drive, what job do i have, how much is my networth, if i live in a palace or not....

By the time she is attracted and i pull, she may get a bit dissapointed but after my dick is inside she will find a way to backward razionalize my lifestyle and what she did, this is what oh pry does not get, which i have been trying to explain to him in 50 post already...
 
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Grand Pooba said girls do not want to DATE a broke ass 35 year old. They will still FUCK said 35 year old if he's attractive (https://www.skilledseducer.com/thre...one-skill-to-rule-them-all.22502/#post-112370)



enough where your not living paycheck to paycheck anymore


actually they will have no problem dating a 35 or 45 broke dude, why people keep saying this, is not factual.... After you fuck them good 3 times is irrelevant.... they will backwards rationalize anything....

if it was otherwise, trust me i will be the first busting my ass more to make money, it does not make a difference on my end...
 

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Hmmm....

I mean what if my calling is truly for a profession that involves a lot of sex and a lot of hedonism? I mean pornstar is going too far, perhaps, but maybe shooting nude models or something that does involve having my daily life work around models, attractive women, and sex. It could be pushing it but why the fuck not. It seems like the world and the universe balances itself out to some degree.
 

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I mean what if my calling is truly for a profession that involves a lot of sex and a lot of hedonism? I mean pornstar is going too far, perhaps, but maybe shooting nude models or something that does involve having my daily life work around models, attractive women, and sex. It could be pushing it but why the fuck not. It seems like the world and the universe balances itself out to some degree.

We have at least one senior guy here who have participated in a porn movie with masked face for anonymity.

I suggest you go and actually try out some of these things. Modelling, working in nightlife, porn whatever. You don't get any more data on this topic from discussing it online.
 

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Some of you guys have really weird things you worry about.

I am now 37, never done better in club game. I have also at times not had a job, I never get any problems in nightgame from this.

Several of the Elders here have done top notch game when they have been unemployed or worked in unimpressive jobs.

When will you guys stop to whine about this, based on no experience?
 

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Some of you guys have really weird things you worry about.

I am now 37, never done better in club game. I have also at times not had a job, I never get any problems in nightgame from this.

Several of the Elders here have done top notch game when they have been unemployed or worked in unimpressive jobs.

When will you guys stop to whine about this, based on no experience?
The reason why we care about this is because we really have no experience in this. We all are socially programmed to have a certain thing by a certain age, whether that be marriage or career, we’re always told by a certain age you must have this thing.

Then you start to think you are less than when you compare yourself to others who follow the social norms and if you’re not there yet you feel no one wants you.

Not being an early 20s dude without having all your shit handled gets to some I’m sure.

This is also the only place and time where we hear these stories of men who are broke, old, etc. still having success with women.

We don’t hear and see this in regular life, everyone is following the norm, they’ll be the ones to tell you to get married and stop going to clubs at 30, they’re the ones telling you to get your money right to take women on dates and whatever else.

This place, I would say is the only place I hear anyone say you can succeed with pick up basically no matter where you are in life, age, experience, and career-wise.

Sounds like a dream when you hear it and aren’t used to the site.

Like, “all I have to do is learn fundamentals, go out and approach, and I’ll have a decent love life without having to get married or take her on nice dates?! Even if I’m older and broke? No way”.

So all of this takes a lot of reprogramming.
 

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So all of this takes a lot of reprogramming.

I do not think very many people explicitly say that 1) it is impossible to get laid in you late 30s or similar as a single man or that 2) you won't be able to hook up if you don't have a job.

You literally have only to go to a local bar to observe this or hang out with somewhat cool or good-looking unemployed people. It is also commonly acknowledged fact that criminals who have never done a honest day of work get laid, often with disturbingly hot chics. This was clear to me in my early 20s though I did not realize the exact mechanisms at work.

So such beliefs are most likely an EXTRAPOLATION of broader shaming which may hold a grain of truth (LTR minded chics may turn you down etc).

There is a very simple meta-reprogramming to fix a lot of this by removing the root cause. That is to STOP having strong opinions about stuff you haven't made a first hand investigation of.

Literally EVERYTHING the mainstream says is either directly false or low-resolution.

For some reason most people seem to love having strong opinions based on hearsay, pop culture etc.

I was a bit fortunate to have a 1) scientific STEM degree and 2) be exposed to the concept of KJ in my early 20s, so I have been shielded from the worst of this.
 

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As you progress through your 30s and 40s you may discover that you want more from life than having a string of ONS's and Fuckbuddies.

You may decide that you want to travel more often and partake in thrillseeking activities with a female companion(s).

You may decide that you want to live in a better area. To be closer to the girls you want to fuck.

You may decide that you want to eat out more at expensive restaurants (places that serve not only foods that taste out of this world amazing and are good for you) and shop at organic supermarkets more often so you don't have to eat the shit average people have to eat.

All these things require money. Not having money will not make you unattractive to females to where they won't fuck you if you don't have any or very little of it. But it will limit what you can get out of this one life.

Right now none of these things may be all that important to you, as a guy in his early to late 20s, so long as you're getting laid. But that may change, as you see many guys who get into their 30s share views similar to this one

Personally, my mission to be good with women lasted about five years. After that I felt I'd learned as much as I needed. However, I invested heavily into this, not only going out to bars and daygaming, but becoming a coach, starting a business, and making it my living.

Since then I've changed my priorities multiple times. Now, I don't really chase women that much, but when I do, I'm very good at it, and always will be. But I find more fulfillment pursuing other paths, like my writing, world travel, family and business stuff.

You also have to take in to consideration that your sex drive will drop. So you may not want to earn more money for the purpose of living stress-free, while you support your wife and kids (because there may not really a point in having one chick around you all the time if you're not horny all that often), but earn more so that you can pursue your hobbies, travel around the world more often, take girls on dates (because YOU want to), and chase new women only when you feel like it.
 

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Some of you guys have really weird things you worry about.

I am now 37, never done better in club game. I have also at times not had a job, I never get any problems in nightgame from this.

Several of the Elders here have done top notch game when they have been unemployed or worked in unimpressive jobs.

When will you guys stop to whine about this, based on no experience?

Not sure if you are a different guy or what but don't you live in Norway?

Unemployment in Norway is a lot more different than it is in America.
 

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Not sure if you are a different guy or what but don't you live in Norway?

Unemployment in Norway is a lot more different than it is in America.

Yes I do, and how so?

Are you talking about 1) not having a job or 2) being broke?

Very different things.
 

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It is also commonly acknowledged fact that criminals who have never done a honest day of work get laid, often with disturbingly hot chics. This was clear to me in my early 20s though I did not realize the exact mechanisms at work.

Hello carousel

could you explain the exact mechanism at work in this situation?
 

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Kind of a long post here which I will try to keep as short as possible, maybe this is not a site where I get the answer to this and maybe it is a question I never get the resolution for in my life.

The short story of Oh Pry:

I had a very unstable childhood, parents divorced and then I moved around a lot and then they got back together. Never really in one place for too long. Born in California and went to a high school that may as well be featured on WorldStar lol. Overbearing parents at home and wild classmates to deal with in class. Needless to say, never had the high school experience and I could have lived with that.

The college years start, where the long-lasting damage happens:

Started off the Community College route due to mentally sick mother with attachment issues. After 2 years or so, transfer to a top 10 party school on the east coast since I was sick and tired of California. Tried to make friends and fit in socially, failed. Failed to make decent enough friends, often socially rejected from the guys who were getting laid, and actually didn't get laid all that much outside of maybe a handful of times.

Years after college, Oh Pry takes off in a big way and things start to come together:

So after college, I really hit my stride. I ended up sleeping with well over 100 different women, had some wild experiences, slowly made a handful of friends, and started doing more fun things. I probably drank and partied more in my 20s after college than I ever did in college.

At one point I did have what I wanted, a decent enough group of friends and that was starting to go enough places. The issue became that a lot of my friends I did make moved on from NYC and got tired of the life here. A lot of them moved to more calm cities and settled into LTR life. My friends who do stay in the city are often traveling all over the world since they have money to spend and prefer not to be in one city for too long.

Here comes the very thing that's been bothering me forever and has taken up a lot of time in my head....

I guess I see it on the outside looking in but I saw a select number of college kids, mainly Greek Life but also other groups, who had big groups they were a part of. Girls in groups heading out with a couple of guys and I wanted something like that. Like a group of guys who all seemed to be successful and had women going out with them or girls they could call up at anytime.

Like getting laid and having fun are important for me but I want to feel like I am a part of something.

I want to have a @Franco @Chase @Hue @Grand Pooba or other guys who I pull with and then after years, have those crazy stories to share with. I want to be able to have a group of friends to show up to events with hot girls and be able to be a part of that big group.

It feels unnatural, like people did this when they were in school and somehow I want to do it afterwards but it has been eating me.

It's like I got to the point in game where getting laid was not enough, I had to build something through game and seduction....

It's gonna be a while before I post another thread but I know I have a weak social foundation that I am trying to solve through game..

Reach up to the sky and all you catch is dust.

Good job you’ve made it this far, perhaps you can sit and kick the sand off your plateau to the younger children and the starving. They’ll see each glitter as a star, catch each speck as a dream.

A turtle in a pond thinks it knows the whole ocean. When your ready, only when I can show. My entire life I’ve been a sailor.
 

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Reach up to the sky and all you catch is dust.

Good job you’ve made it this far, perhaps you can sit and kick the sand off your plateau to the younger children and the starving. They’ll see each glitter as a star, catch each speck as a dream.

A turtle in a pond thinks it knows the whole ocean. When your ready, only when I can show. My entire life I’ve been a sailor.

no, just no
 
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