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Tribal Elder
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I will not deny i feel bad for new generations and the stuff they have to deal with now a days.... But it will be harder to become a film director than to get some decent results with women, at least 50 times harder....

Have you read Tony d (zardoz book)

 

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Then why not be super smooth and suave then? Lol they got articles about that on here.

Anyway bro I’m telling you now, you might as well get used to it. You will get to the point where you will not care about the rejection and games.

You will get to the point you just look at women like a piece of ass and keep playing the numbers game until one bites.

What is your main goal with women?

Have you tried lowering your standards?

You said you messed with a chick at work, why do you think that happened, and why don’t you think that can happen again?
I tried bro. I tried for many many years. I just can't get it. Despite hours of reading on this site and hundreds of hours of cold Approach videos I still can't get it right. Which for the longest time I really wished someone on this sight did was make some demo videos but nobody ever has.

And I thought if it tried hard enough to get women I wouldn't care about rejection but I do. I'm just getting rejected left and right and getting no success. It's just torture at that point.

Main goal? I don't know. Just be married with them. I don't plan on getting married tho.

I have tried lowering my standards many times but even then it doesn't really work well for me.

When did I say I messed with a chick at work?
 

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You're only allowed to change your focus after you've achieved your goal. Otherwise, it's just another failure. We all fail. Mostly it comes down to the wrong mindset, fear, laziness and poor execution.

However, there's nothing wrong with embarking on a career as a film maker. Realize though, this is far harder than learning game. I worked in film for over ten years, as background, PA, Set Dec, and Lighting. If you want to direct, don't expect it to be handed to you as you work up the ladder. You need to just get your camera gear, save your money and start making films on your own. The same as you would to go do pickup. You'll never be discovered.
Where in film did you work? Do you want to be a film director as well?
 
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I tried bro. I tried for many many years. I just can't get it. Despite hours of reading on this site and hundreds of hours of cold Approach videos I still can't get it right. Which for the longest time I really wished someone on this sight did was make some demo videos but nobody ever has.

Learning PU from the written word or from videos is very hard if you don't know the basics.

Have you ever tried to learn from somebody in real life?
 

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Learning PU from the written word or from videos is very hard if you don't know the basics.

Have you ever tried to learn from somebody in real life?
Of course! Plenty of times. I don't meet alot if guys who are extremely smooth with women alot though. They are not as common to meet. And the ones you do meet aren't going to bed hanging around me that much. I learned some things from them but learning from them is also in way much harder because they are just better than me in every way. Witty, smart, knows all convo topics,. I can't emulay what I don't know
 

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Of course! Plenty of times. I don't meet alot if guys who are extremely smooth with women alot though. They are not as common to meet. And the ones you do meet aren't going to bed hanging around me that much. I learned some things from them but learning from them is also in way much harder because they are just better than me in every way. Witty, smart, knows all convo topics,. I can't emulay what I don't know

Well pay for coaching then.
 

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Well pay for coaching then.
Can't afford it right now. I am broke as of now losing my money to the epidemic. And even before that I wasn't making as much. I'm trying to get a better job right now. Amazon is hiring maybe I'll start there. Been filling out applications left and right. Living off the stimulus check at the moment
 

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Can't afford it right now. I am broke as of now losing my money to the epidemic. And even before that I wasn't making as much. I'm trying to get a better job right now. Amazon is hiring maybe I'll start there. Been filling out applications left and right. Living off the stimulus check at the moment

Then getting enough money to pay one or more PU coaches is your first sticking point. Start working on solving it now.
 

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I tried bro. I tried for many many years. I just can't get it. Despite hours of reading on this site and hundreds of hours of cold Approach videos I still can't get it right. Which for the longest time I really wished someone on this sight did was make some demo videos but nobody ever has.

And I thought if it tried hard enough to get women I wouldn't care about rejection but I do. I'm just getting rejected left and right and getting no success. It's just torture at that point.

Main goal? I don't know. Just be married with them. I don't plan on getting married tho.

I have tried lowering my standards many times but even then it doesn't really work well for me.

When did I say I messed with a chick at work?
You said you messed with some chick at your job in a closet or something. I think it was you at least.
 

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Of course! Plenty of times. I don't meet alot if guys who are extremely smooth with women alot though. They are not as common to meet. And the ones you do meet aren't going to bed hanging around me that much. I learned some things from them but learning from them is also in way much harder because they are just better than me in every way. Witty, smart, knows all convo topics,. I can't emulay what I don't know
Emulate the guys you see getting women when you go out to the club again eventually.

I’d say now is the perfect time for you to focus on something else and put women off until this stuff is over. No need to stress out about women at a time like this. This is the perfect time to give up women. Work on what you wanna work on and see where you are in a few months compared to before.
 

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If you want to direct, don't expect it to be handed to you as you work up the ladder. You need to just get your camera gear, save your money and start making films on your own.
Then getting enough money to pay one or more PU coaches is your first sticking point.
He doesnt have the passion for PU. It doesnt sound like. That money would be better spent bootstrapping his film career. Hes already failed PU. Dont be left wondering "what if"
 

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I will not deny i feel bad for new generations and the stuff they have to deal with now a days.... But it will be harder to become a film director than to get some decent results with women, at least 50 times harder....

Have you read Tony d (zardoz book)


Yes, that's what that book is about.

btw, if you guys see there's one shitty comment at the top that Amazon decided is the most important review. If you could just say it's "not useful" or give a different review a thumbs up, it would help me a lot.
 

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Probably not but people quit on their dreams all the time
Well... then, giving up is not going to make you happier; quite the contrary. TRY AGAIN !

Now I have a solution for you...
It seems that your problem is that you struggle to learn from your mistakes...

What if you could do something that could help your directing skills AND your sex life???

That would be... filming yourself interacting with people!!
Do you think you can't pull it off? Well, actually you'd surprised at how easy it is to do. It also gives you plausible deniability to approach!

AND THE BIG THING IS THAT YOU CAN LEARN FROM YOUR MISTAKES.

So an easy way to do it :
  1. Make a thread about this and start a journal
  2. Take your phone and get comfortable to talking to it
  3. Take your phone and get out
  4. Make a few approaches while filming
  5. Edit every video. Watch and analyse how you filmed, what you do, what you could do better...
  6. Upload it privately in youtube and share it with us so we can help you. Also share your analysis.
Once you do all this, you can start making adjustements on your own, buying a camera, focus on angles and stuff!
Doesn' it sound suuuuper fun? You got free actors and you are going to improve with girls, what else could you ask!

We'll be here to help you,
Klimax
 
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popcorn was offering free coaching... though i think you need more in person coaching... but look into it...
 

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Well... then, giving up is not going to make you happier; quite the contrary. TRY AGAIN !
Gotta know when to cut your losses and move on.

This guy doesnt sound like he has any interest in the art of seduction. He just wants to bust a nut. Maybe try online dating apps for that.

He needs to be super focused/obsessed on one thing. Rather than dabbling in two or more paths to get far in whatever hes passionate about
 

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At the end of the day , I do not know why threads like this get so much attention .

clearly there is no reasoning with him as he is right now , and for sure being so emotional will not get any results anytime soon .

@Shake&Bake it would be the best investment to get yourself a life coach :)

if he wants to give up ,it is perfect for the rest , as it is less competition
 

ljrozz69

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He just wants to bust a nut. Maybe try online dating apps for that.
Well thats not completly giving up on women... not learning PU/seduction is not giving up on women (just giving up on the opportunity to improve how you spend your time with them).
Also whats is happening is that he is in a weak emotional phase. He's auto-rejecting from women as a whole. My precedent question was to make him aware that it is not something that is going to make him happy; and that he will feel guilty about it. Thus, making him more likely to TRY AGAIN.

I suggested him to do that to take a different perspective. He also may discover a passion about it; how do we know? Until he tryes we cant know for sure.
Let give him the opportunity to try, shall we?

Klimax
 

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You said you messed with some chick at your job in a closet or something. I think it was you at least.
Ion think that was me bro. As far as I know. There are some chicks at my job I wanted to make moves to but they don't see me that way
 

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Gotta know when to cut your losses and move on.

This guy doesnt sound like he has any interest in the art of seduction. He just wants to bust a nut. Maybe try online dating apps for that.

He needs to be super focused/obsessed on one thing. Rather than dabbling in two or more paths to get far in whatever hes passionate about
Dude what? I don't think you know how long I've been reading this site.
 

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Reading stuff doesn't mean you are actively trying to improve, what did you do in order to improve?
 
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