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I went on a second date this afternoon with the girl from Tuesday.

We met at a gelato shop. Got gelato. Walked to the park and ate it. Ate it and talked. It started raining, so we walked to a bookstore. Looked at books and guessed the dates they were written (these were old books). Walked back to my apartment. Escalated. Got on the bed, with shirts off, and rubbing her vagina. But she said she didn't want to have sex day. We kept kissing a bit, and then stopped. She said she had to go and get something to eat (she hadn't eaten all day). She left.

This was interesting. She was definitely compliant enough. I didn't really have much time to plan logistics, but it worked out alright to meet at the gelato shop, walk to the park and sit, then go to the bookstore (which was on the way from the park to my apartment), then go back. The rain was annoying. It's hard to do outside walking type dates when it is raining. I didn't want to go to a place to eat food, because eating food with a girl stinks, plus I didn't want to plan it. I didn't really have a plan, kind of just made it up as I went. That worked out.

She was compliant enough, as we saw. However back at mine, when I went to kiss, and then escalate, she sort of went with it, then of course gave the LMR. The one spot when I felt like I wasn't quite "controlling the pace" was, we were kissing on the couch, and she said like we're sitting up really straight, should we move to the bed." I said sure, and we went. However, when we were there, she said she didn't want to take off her pants, and gave that LMR. Maybe I could have said like "let's stay on the couch for now". Then escalate there, and get her pants off, then say "let's move to the bed." That way, you're sort of using the move to the bed as an agreement that you're going to have sex. Regardless, you would control the pace more, which I believe is helpful.

With the girl from a few weeks ago, it was something similar. After kissing on the couch, she said let's move to the bed. We did, and then she gave LMR. I'm thinking to myself, why did we move to the bed, if you weren't ready for sex? That was another instance where I felt like I should have controlled the pace more. Go 10% slower than she wants to. That's good that she suggested the bed, but you don't have to give that to her right away. Stay on the couch, escalate more, maybe get the pants off, then move to the bed. In any case, control the pace, and go 10% slower than she wants to.

The conversation flowed easily enough. That is, I felt like I was having fun, and making jokes, and having fun with the conversation. That is good. Fun is good. Fun is all you can do. If you have the vibe, and just vibe and move things forward, that is basically all that game is. Keep the vibe up and move things forward.

This girl liked to joke and tease a lot. A lot. It was kind of like the teasing that I would do, as a guy. It was mildly amusing, but a bit tiring after a while. I wonder if this falls into the category of girl who isn't getting what she wants, so adopts the male dating approach, of teasing and so forth. It was somewhat fun. I was amused. At the same time, I would just prefer that a girl acts femininely. But I guess that is neither here nor there. It was just odd to see. She seemed like she went on a lot of dates. Odd.
 

bobbyb112

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I went on another date today.

We met at the bar. It was empty (yay). We went to the back and sat. Talked. Got drinks. Deep dived. Teased some. Touched some. Sexual topics some. Tried to pull, she said she didn't go back on the first date. Talked more. Left.

This one was okay. She was good at talking, which was okay, although it was frankly hard to get a word in edgewise. She didn't really stop talking. I touched a bit, but it was hard to close the distance to touch, with her sitting somewhat far away. She was also kind of logical. Which isn't bad, but maybe I need to get used to talking to logical girls.

As far as my 3 things to work on: 0. Posture: posture was good. I kept straight lower back. Frankly it probably looked like I was perhaps trying too hard in that regard. But oh well. I would rather sit up too straight, than slouch. 1. tease/ have fun. I did this a bit, although it was hard to tease, because she would kind of talk over whatever I was saying. 2. seed the pull: I tried to seed the pull, but she basically talked over me, lol. So didn't really land there.

It was playful enough of an interaction. When I touched, she didn't mind, which is good. Sexualizing, I tried to a bit, but she kind of talked over me. As far as the objection, I suppose it is better to have gotten "I don't go home on the first date" rather than a straight up excuse like "I have to feed my cat" or whatever. Meaning, maybe the objection of not on the first date, leaves the door open to a second date, as opposed to just making some excuse, which doesn't. I will probably follow up to see if she wants to do a second date, just to see. My prediction is not. But we will see.

My "game" is kind of just to have good posture, joke and tease, deep dive some. Touch some, sexualize some. Having fun is a good "silver bullet" for what to do on a date. I think Chase has an article about "do what feels fun". How true. Just do whatever feels fun. Simple.

A lot of "game" can be boiled down to have good fundamentals, tease and have fun, lead and move things forward. That is like saying "the way to win a football game is to move the ball down the field." Duh. But still, at a certain point in your mind, those are the things that you are only thinking about. Having good fundamentals (in the moment, after you have gotten dressed and done your hair, posture is most important), and teasing and having fun, and leading, is kind of all you have to think about. It is chunked up, to the higher levels. Then, let the chips fall as they may.

I'm not sure why the "bubble" gets formed with some girls, but not others. What leads to the bubble, and how can you create it with all girls, and not just mostly Latina ones (my personal experience, lol). That is sort of the occam's razor of it.

It's interesting going on a lot of dates, to see these patterns, and let them play out. I went on 5 dates in the last 7 days, as well as hang out with a regular one night. So lots of things to test or try out. The having fun and teasing piece I feel like has been a good unlock, overall. It worked with basically all the girls I've used it on, with the purpose making the interaction fun, and her not wanting to leave, and me not wanting to leave, and the interaction not getting stale. That is probably the real unlock. Things not getting stale. Getting lots of experience points, and having things you are working on, all help in seeing patterns and trying to develop some consistency.

For seeding the pull, I need to set aside some time to come up with the right way to seed the pull.

Things to remember/work on: 0. Straight back posture (do it even more than you think you need to). 1. Teasing, flirting, touching, having fun. 2. Seed the pull. Those are my 3 things to work on.
 
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Got on the bed, with shirts off, and rubbing her vagina. But she said she didn't want to have sex day.

With the girl from a few weeks ago, it was something similar. After kissing on the couch, she said let's move to the bed. We did, and then she gave LMR. I'm thinking to myself, why did we move to the bed, if you weren't ready for sex? That was another instance where
https://www.tiktok.com/@annabellegesson/video/7464713231693614379?lang=en

do this on the bed. stop rubbing the vagina with your hands as foreplay. as she explains in the video, that’s creepy during escalation.
 
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