Lack of sexual motivation

[The Improviser]

I have a problem: I don't know what to talk about during a first date after we've finished building a comfortable atmosphere (work, hobbies, travel).

What do you talk about on a date to discuss male-female topics, female fantasies, and topics that trigger a woman's sexual motivation to respond to an invitation to your apartment or a second date?

I know it's very important to look for sexual innuendos, strong eye contact, and bold escalation of touch, but I don't know what topics to discuss at this stage of the date.

My only idea is what type of guys do you like? Sometimes we start talking about women, but it's ineffective. I'd love to learn from your experience: what topics you introduce and what questions you ask.

 

[mirror]

My only idea is what type of guys do you like? Sometimes we start talking about women, but it's ineffective. I'd love to learn from your experience: what topics you introduce and what questions you ask.

it's honestly not about the topic but about the kino, tone of voice, the rhythm you talk with

Hell you can even talk about your pets and make it sexual :')

Edit: don't talk about women, a lot of women would turn insecure or move away. unless you actually want to talk about something you have had happen while you simulteanously show her how it is done ofcourse

 

[Lover]

I don't know what to talk about during a first date after we've finished building a comfortable atmosphere (work, hobbies, travel).

Are you deep diving them when you talk about those topics? Sometimes you don't need to talk about more topics as much talking in depth about few topics on the first date. Girls generally love nothing more than a guy who knows them and gets them

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What do you talk about on a date to discuss male-female topics, female fantasies, and topics that trigger a woman's sexual motivation to respond to an invitation to your apartment or a second date?

You can lead with a

"You know what I think is sad for women these days?"

And when she answers what, tease her a bit about how you don't think she's ready for all that, that she seems too sweet/pure. Build up tension by not responding right away

If she insists that she's ready to hear it, then you mention something you think is sad for women. E.g. double standards regarding high body counts for men vs women. Or something else that you think is sad.

See what happens from there when you elaborate on it

If she agrees to your frame that she's sweet/pure, she may need more comfort before she's ready to talk about more sexually charged topics. Then switch topic again to something less sexual

I know it's very important to look for sexual innuendos, strong eye contact, and bold escalation of touch, but I don't know what topics to discuss at this stage of the date.

If you run out of things to say, don't be afraid to let a natural break occur where you can both breathe again. Then get eye contact with her, smirk and touch her appropriately. Let your non-verbals do the work then until you feel like talking again.

At this point, something like "I think we are having a great time. You smell great/your skin is soft/etc" can work quite well for transitioning to a more intimate/sexual vibe

 

[The Improviser]

yeah just showing natural sexual interest, what about being super honest and unfiltered? i had cases when milfs asked me in the middle of a date "Which kind of sex do you like?" we had an honest conversation and went back at my place, maybe i should stop playing safely and just go one way or a highway, while having right sexual tension created by escalation and kiss before

 

[Will_V]

I have a problem: I don't know what to talk about during a first date after we've finished building a comfortable atmosphere (work, hobbies, travel).

What do you talk about on a date to discuss male-female topics, female fantasies, and topics that trigger a woman's sexual motivation to respond to an invitation to your apartment or a second date?

I know it's very important to look for sexual innuendos, strong eye contact, and bold escalation of touch, but I don't know what topics to discuss at this stage of the date.

My only idea is what type of guys do you like? Sometimes we start talking about women, but it's ineffective. I'd love to learn from your experience: what topics you introduce and what questions you ask.

The way I think of it, sex is the physical expression of passion together with lack of inhibition. As you go through the seduction, you build the bubble and then at the end you take her to the bedroom to release all the built up energy.

1. Start with information (e.g. what do you do for work)
2. Move toward passion (e.g. what makes you passionate about XYZ)
3. Release inhibition (e.g. talk about times she's been rebellious/adventurous, talk about girls not being able to express themselves sexually, etc)
4. Use touch, proximity, eye contact, sexual innuendo to add sexual expression to the emotional experience.
5. Lead her to the bedroom.

It's not a one way street, there are some detours, some side paths, etc, but that's the gist of how things go for me.

 

[Lover]

yeah just showing natural sexual interest, what about being super honest and unfiltered? i had cases when milfs asked me in the middle of a date "Which kind of sex do you like?" we had an honest conversation and went back at my place, maybe i should stop playing safely and just go one way or a highway, while having right sexual tension created by escalation and kiss before

With MILFs, them escalating like that may work if they are single mothers with limited time on their hands. You did right by taking charge of the situation and getting them to bed like that

Haven't had the chance to try the unfiltered and super honest approach myself and would be a KJ to say anything about how it works. In principle, I think it's like opening a girl with a neo-direct approach, which is high risk. But its still different as I'm sure that, with calibration, it can work under certain circumstances. Other will have to chime in if they have experience with this on dates

I've read guys having success being super honest and unfiltered during night game but then change topic right away to a more common topic before escalating later on. Some of @Hue 's LRs come to mind but I just can't find the ones where he did that

 

[The Improviser]

With MILFs, them escalating like that may work if they are single mothers with limited time on their hands. You did right by taking charge of the situation and getting them to bed like that

Haven't had the chance to try the unfiltered and super honest approach myself and would be a KJ to say anything about how it works. In principle, I think it's like opening a girl with a neo-direct approach, which is high risk. But its still different as I'm sure that, with calibration, it can work under certain circumstances. Other will have to chime in if they have experience with this on dates

I've read guys having success being super honest and unfiltered during night game but then change topic right away to a more common topic before escalating later on. Some of @Hue 's LRs come to mind but I just can't find the ones where he did that

Thanks for useful tips and your motivation