FR Mexican Maybe Milf

[TheEcho]

Thanks Hoof! Anyone have thoughts on when to get back to her and how to angle for a more conducive date?

I'm thinking Sunday afternoon for:
"Hey ___, how's your weekend going?"
bla bla bla
"Was thinking..." "Would be fun to cook something together" (maybe drag out the delay)
If positive:
"I can grab some ingredients and bring them by" "Please tell me you at least have a pot and a pan haha" (quick succession)
If positive:
"What evenings are you free this week?"

Then any thoughts on picking a recipe? Surprise her or see if she can think of something to cook for me? Forget the article, but one mentioned having a girl cook for you to seduce herself

Another angle could be that she said she liked the horror movies related to her name, and I've never seen the movies. What about asking to come over and she can show me one? Caveat is I actually hate horror films lol, sooo may be problematic if she actually starts it. (my imagination eats them up in the worst way)

Again, I'm thinking Sunday afternoon for:
"Hey ___, how's your weekend going?"
bla bla bla
"Was thinking..." "I've only seen the ___ doll, I haven't seen the movies"
If positive:
"How about I grab something to eat or drink and come over and you can prove to me you aren't her?"
If positive:
"What evenings are you free?

 

[HoofHearted]

I'll pass to the pro's

I get through this part, but not super gracefully

 

[TheEcho]

Bump, I know y'all are busy smashing the weekend (and those hotties caught up in the mix), but a second opinion on the above angles would be really helpful before I shoot them off!

 

[HoofHearted]

I think a little bit 'slow your roll' here

If i understand correctly, this is the first time getting her out.

'Cooking date' is awfully boyfriendy and invested imo. Are you trying to be her boyfriend?

This sounds like something else to me. Invite her for a cocktail, talk to her, maybe look at some fuckin art or something, invite her home and fuck her. No need to get too cute with it imo

As for texting her, I would probably wait. Is there a chance you'll see her in person soon? If so, see if phone can just be skipped and do it that same day

 

[TheEcho]

Just looking for an excuse to start at her place, since mine isn't an option. That's the weird thing at my gym, I'll see people once and never again, or once a quarter, or daily, it's very random. Puts a lot of pressure for me to approach the first time I notice a cute girl, but also always makes me wonder who I'll see from the past.

Guess I can start with the movie text, and if she's not keen, divert it to drinks and re-engage the movie excuse while out with her.

 

[POB]

I'm thinking Sunday afternoon for:
"Hey ___, how's your weekend going?"
bla bla bla
"Was thinking..." "Would be fun to cook something together" (maybe drag out the delay)
If positive:
"I can grab some ingredients and bring them by" "Please tell me you at least have a pot and a pan haha" (quick succession)
If positive:
"What evenings are you free this week?"

Then any thoughts on picking a recipe? Surprise her or see if she can think of something to cook for me? Forget the article, but one mentioned having a girl cook for you to seduce herself

Not strong really, too much provider vibes.
Plus food hooks work better if it's you invinting them over to your place.

Another angle could be that she said she liked the horror movies related to her name, and I've never seen the movies. What about asking to come over and she can show me one? Caveat is I actually hate horror films lol, sooo may be problematic if she actually starts it. (my imagination eats them up in the worst way)

Again, I'm thinking Sunday afternoon for:
"Hey ___, how's your weekend going?"
bla bla bla
"Was thinking..." "I've only seen the ___ doll, I haven't seen the movies"
If positive:
"How about I grab something to eat or drink and come over and you can prove to me you aren't her?"
If positive:
"What evenings are you free?

Again, too much BF vibes.

The best option IMO...accept the coffee.
If you want to bang her the same day, do the 3-bounce technique.
After the date, if the temperature rises, just shoot straight:

"We should go to a quiet pace where we can get comfortable and chill"
Yeah, we should. Where do you live?
"Look, I'm gonna be honest here....my place is kinda of a mess right now. I have a roomate who is not the most organized person, and we still don't know each other that well, so I'm trying to cause a good impression. Can we go to your place this time?"

Another option is blackdragon's 2-date strategy.
Either way, It's the same route to seed the isolation and sex at her place.
Only with 2-dates you do it by text.

 

[TheEcho]

Thanks for the input! Guess I felt like the age gap would help keep out boyfriend issues (her likely being 10+ years older). Since my text game has been junk lately (or everything changed and I'm not caught up), would you recommend I try to make conversation, or just ping and ask when she's free?

Read your 3 bounce article, seems straight forward enough. I just seem to be down bad with being new to my area, living at home, not having work, and feeling like an alien with 2020's pickup lol

 

[POB]

Thanks for the input!

No prob.

Guess I felt like the age gap would help keep out boyfriend issues (her likely being 10+ years older).

Quite the opposite...she wants to fuck a younger stud (or else she would've bailed a long time ago).
So she knows whats up.
Giving BF vibes is gonna dry her coochie for sure.
Now it's your job to not fuck up and close the deal.
Good news is you already over the hardest part.

Since my text game has been junk lately (or everything changed and I'm not caught up), would you recommend I try to make conversation, or just ping and ask when she's free?

No no no. You always follow the same procedure:
Ping with someting interesting>quick banter>soft close>hard close if yes,
>politely excuse yourself and re-engage later if no.

Read your 3 bounce article, seems straight forward enough. I just seem to be down bad with being new to my area, living at home, not having work, and feeling like an alien with 2020's pickup lol

Plan ahead.
I've always used this sequence: coffe or deli > park or garden > slowly walk back to my place

 

[TheEcho]

No no no. You always follow the same procedure:
Ping with someting interesting>quick banter>soft close>hard close if yes, >politely excuse yourself and re-engage later if no.

Well damn, started with asking how her weekend was going lol, no response yet. Not a crazy amount of time has passed, but she previously was immediately on it. I'll do my best to live and die by that sequence, at least until I am up to speed again.

 

[POB]

Well damn, started with asking how her weekend was going lol, no response yet. Not a crazy amount of time has passed, but she previously was immediately on it. I'll do my best to live and die by that sequence, at least until I am up to speed again.

Damn, I guess Hector's book is not enough.
Why guys have such a hard time texting? (retorical question).

Well, wait a couple of days.
If she doesn't reply, you ping the following (this is old school but still works):

"God damn, I think you were kidnapped!!!
Tell you what, just wait untill nobody's looking and quickly send me your captivity's location.
I'll make sure to slide you a chocolate bar through the window (hands up emoji)."

If she does reply, follow the sequence: banter and try to soft close>hard close again.

 

[TheEcho]

Damn, I guess Hector's book is not enough.
Why guys have such a hard time texting? (retorical question).

Don't want to throw him under the bus, not like I was getting anywhere on my own and responses have improved since (trying) to implement his texting fundamentals. Reviewing it, it does seem to instruct more of how my examples were worded (not the boyfriend aspect, obviously).

 

[POB]

Don't want to throw him under the bus, not like I was getting anywhere on my own and responses have improved since (trying) to implement his texting fundamentals. Reviewing it, it does seem to instruct more of how my examples were worded (not the boyfriend aspect, obviously).

I'm sure Hetor's book is awesome!
The problem is probably in the reader's experince and interpretation.
(not a knock on you, just an observation).
BTW, it's never easy to forget our old ways to learn something new!
We always tend to revert back to what we know, even if it's not working.

 

[TheEcho]

I guess while I'm at it, how do you go about the first text and into the first ask out? I'm operating under the asking to meet for coffee or w/e, then get the number, then intro text, sometimes with the ask for her schedule, and sometimes separate those. It's not working very well anymore...

Also, she still hasn't responded.... ugh. Makes me wonder what I'm doing so differently from the past. I doubt things have changed THAT much. Pre-relationship, I went out with a good 50% of all contacts and slept with 25% of those (with a solid 20% lost to derpy handling of LMR). Now I'm stuck at ZERO...

Honestly, I think my cold approach interactions used to be even shorter than what I'm pushing for now. Thought I wasn't spending enough time, but maybe it's actually too much (at least for a gym). Both people are worn out by working out, so things seem to sputter out earlier. Guess I can try closing as soon as a high point comes along. Have 1 golden minute, instead of 2-5 trying minutes.

 

[HoofHearted]

"God damn, I think you were kidnapped!!!
Tell you what, just wait untill nobody's looking and quickly send me your captivity's location.
I'll make sure to slide you a chocolate bar through the window (hands up emoji)."

Well if we're doing it by poll i vote NOT this. It looks like trying hard to do work imo

Heres why. She flaked on you, which is a natural process, but also means the sell wasn't super high

Reasoning goes, she kinda doesn't give a shit already, how do you expect her to respond when she sees a wall of text trying to do clever somersaults? Chasing.

But you all tell me. I'm not a magician texter. I think I'm good, but as far as im concerned the only measure of 'good' is getting dat ass out in front of you in person. What happened before the texting matters most imo (not strong in this case), and then the funnel of texting is just always a crapshoot anyways, texting is like Canada, not a great place to be but we have to go there sometimes to trap fresh fur.

 

[TheEcho]

To be fair, she jumped on the first little gambit pob gave me. I agree the situation seems to have deescalated, but this is also a smooth way for her to give me her address, if she chooses that route. Hard to say considering she isn't even responding to how her weekend is going lol... ;-;

 

[HoofHearted]

Well the more i see the less i know.

Do report back

 

[TheEcho]

So yes, she is a Milf lol. She texted me back:

Her: Hi! Good thank you, I been busy. How are you
Me: Hey! I'm good, been swamped every day. Could use a break
Her: Oh
Me: Have you ever had Boba? There's a place nearby that looks interesting
Her: sorry I'm in the gym right now *down face*
Her: I'm miss the gym for two days *embarrassed face*
Me: Ah, bad ___, need to earn it *winky-tongue out*
Me: I was thinking later haha, like tonight or an evening this week
Me: But you have to promise to workout hard
Her: Hahajaja
Her: This week it’s van a hard for me I have to prepare a birthday party for my daughter
Her: Maybe next week we can go for a coffee

Edit: Crap, just realized she may have been open to meeting during the day, but me pushing for evenings locked me out

Sooo, need some tips for when she comes back around, I doubt mine were great. I see why it kind of seemed like she was always thinking of meeting midday, so the kids aren't there. Thoughts on responding? My thought:

Me: Ooh fun, had a feeling you were a mom haha
Me: Yeah, we can do an evening or during the day so you don't have to worry about any kids. Go ahead and let me know when you're free and you better be working out hard again

Ball in her court due to flakiness, but understanding and making room for a daytime meet. Also placing it into her mind that if she's working out hard it might be related to me (she looks like she works out hard)

Sent this one:
Me: Ooh fun, had a feeling you were a mom haha
Me: Coffee or I can just come over if that's easier for you. Thankfully, I can work anytime. So just depends on how flexible you can be

Basically, if you want to fuck, just ask under the pretense of making things easier. Cut out the "just let me know" part, given how much this avenue opens up if she's positive at all. Thoughts on the last part? Feel like it serves the purpose of kind of asking her to let me know, without locking me into that frame, and being innuendo

 

[HoofHearted]

What happened here?

 

[TheEcho]

Me: Hey ___, just saw some birthday balloons *liked*
Me: Made me think, hope your part went well!

Her: Yes everything went well I'm out of dallas

Me: Good to hear
Me: You ran away?
Me:

Her: Yes I thank my daughter to a resort

Me: That's cool, what kind? Like Grey Wolf Lodge?

Her: Yes like that one

Me: So generous
Me: Save some for me for when you get back

Her: Thank you have a good day *hearted*


Lol, going to leave it for now. I mean, she did respond after me strongly suggesting I can come over in the last session, but that flirt at the end seemed to not land well

 

[Skills]

So yes, she is a Milf lol. She texted me back:

Her: Hi! Good thank you, I been busy. How are you
Me: Hey! I'm good, been swamped every day. Could use a break

this was good ^

Her: Oh
Me: Have you ever had Boba? There's a place nearby that looks interesting

I would have waited a bit to do the soft close...

Her: sorry I'm in the gym right now *down face*
Her: I'm miss the gym for two days *embarrassed face*

here i would have say oh my bad! i text you later when you are out of the gym and would have re open with a text on how was the workout, trying to look fit and sexy for our upcomming date, i appreciate that...

Me: Ah, bad ___, need to earn it *winky-tongue out*
Me: I was thinking later haha, like tonight or an evening this week
Me: But you have to promise to workout hard

this was bad chasing date/appt.

Her: Hahajaja
Her: This week it’s van a hard for me I have to prepare a birthday party for my daughter
Her: Maybe next week we can go for a coffee

when women say maybe, you reply "maybe you don't sound confident enough"

Edit: Crap, just realized she may have been open to meeting during the day, but me pushing for evenings locked me out

Sooo, need some tips for when she comes back around, I doubt mine were great. I see why it kind of seemed like she was always thinking of meeting midday, so the kids aren't there. Thoughts on responding? My thought:

Me: Ooh fun, had a feeling you were a mom haha
Me: Yeah, we can do an evening or during the day so you don't have to worry about any kids. Go ahead and let me know when you're free and you better be working out hard again

Ball in her court due to flakiness, but understanding and making room for a daytime meet. Also placing it into her mind that if she's working out hard it might be related to me (she looks like she works out hard)

Sent this one:
Me: Ooh fun, had a feeling you were a mom haha
Me: Coffee or I can just come over if that's easier for you. Thankfully, I can work anytime. So just depends on how flexible you can be

Basically, if you want to fuck, just ask under the pretense of making things easier. Cut out the "just let me know" part, given how much this avenue opens up if she's positive at all. Thoughts on the last part? Feel like it serves the purpose of kind of asking her to let me know, without locking me into that frame, and being innuendo

^ your texting needs work my friend... is like you are chasing date frame, I hate that.... here are some post to review:

Calls & Texts - when scheduling she gives you a maybe or any weak agreement...

If you are texting and you do things properly you should not be getting a maybe, the ideal situation is that she is invested and respond positively to the soft close, then you hard close... It is very rare to get maybes or weak responses to the hard close if you have done things right...

www.skilledseducer.com

Calls & Texts - How to soft close, when to soft close and some mistakes I am seeing....

So guys, i see some of you are doing things kind of right, some of you still doing same old bad habits, the guys that are actually listening, have totally exponentially improved results or adapted to their style what i have been preaching, the stubborn ones, same crap.. Anyways guys though the...

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Calls & Texts - How to properly hard close (set up logistics for meet up)

A hard close is defined as finding out when the girl is available for you 2 to meet and arranging the meeting (logistics).... I specifically advice this after you get high investment and properly soft closing a girl. A basic structure is to ask "how does your schedule looks like?" or "how...

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