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Since the discussion has made rounds recently, I've wanted to kind of share a different perspective but not about whether or not you can get these women. I want to say that for the sake of this thread, you can get women who might not initially be as warm to you. So we have established that you can get reds and whatever. Now Chase talked about in the recent article here about why a seducer might go for some of these women. Some scenarios are understandable such as being out late at night and those are the only women available.
We even talked about the "challenge" and I think it digs into some deep psychological need of chasing after what you feel you cannot have. I think in some ways, these whys were unhealthy, especially trying to "prove" to friends that you can get the toughest girl? I wonder how that is not to some degree seeking validation. Even then though, there is just that something to where if we struggle a lot with a woman, we want to somehow keep going. Like instinctively, it is a state of a guy to never be satisfied with what he has.
I almost feel like by being closed off, women earn the respect of a guy. The same guy who would take a certain women who is more "loose" and "easy" for granted somehow respects the closed off and cold woman more, he will be less likely to treat her like crap and show a degree of respect towards her. I feel as if such a woman can get proper treatment from most men by being very closed off if she looks good compared to a woman who sleeps around and looks good. Even on a cultural level, I talked to my friend from the Mediterranean about this.
My friend says that women in his country are very closed off, demanding, shallow, and prone to having a princess complex. The men as a result go to parts of Europe where women are more loose and seemingly "easier". What he told me is that those same men do not have the same respect for those loose and easier women, who are also very hot, as they do their own women because to them, it becomes a different act. They treat the loose women like whores who are meant to be used for sex and their own women like princesses who are meant to die for.
I found the whole thing odd at first but then it came to me, I was the same way too. I could never appreciate and respect the cool, open, and available women we have in front of us. It was always the supposedly unattainable "type" that lived rent free in my head lol.
I had to train myself to almost shift a narrative in my head to loving women who loved me or were less closed off. It almost came to the point where I realized the power the supposedly tougher challenge and unattainable had, how it somehow won my respect more than women I could have, and how I had to work for years to get myself to love women that were more attainable than those that were more of a challenge.
Yet I feel like most men respect and love women who are challenging and more on the unattainable side and take open, cool, and more attainable women for granted even if such a woman is very beautiful.
But hey, I want to hear another perspective on this psychology.
We even talked about the "challenge" and I think it digs into some deep psychological need of chasing after what you feel you cannot have. I think in some ways, these whys were unhealthy, especially trying to "prove" to friends that you can get the toughest girl? I wonder how that is not to some degree seeking validation. Even then though, there is just that something to where if we struggle a lot with a woman, we want to somehow keep going. Like instinctively, it is a state of a guy to never be satisfied with what he has.
I almost feel like by being closed off, women earn the respect of a guy. The same guy who would take a certain women who is more "loose" and "easy" for granted somehow respects the closed off and cold woman more, he will be less likely to treat her like crap and show a degree of respect towards her. I feel as if such a woman can get proper treatment from most men by being very closed off if she looks good compared to a woman who sleeps around and looks good. Even on a cultural level, I talked to my friend from the Mediterranean about this.
My friend says that women in his country are very closed off, demanding, shallow, and prone to having a princess complex. The men as a result go to parts of Europe where women are more loose and seemingly "easier". What he told me is that those same men do not have the same respect for those loose and easier women, who are also very hot, as they do their own women because to them, it becomes a different act. They treat the loose women like whores who are meant to be used for sex and their own women like princesses who are meant to die for.
I found the whole thing odd at first but then it came to me, I was the same way too. I could never appreciate and respect the cool, open, and available women we have in front of us. It was always the supposedly unattainable "type" that lived rent free in my head lol.
I had to train myself to almost shift a narrative in my head to loving women who loved me or were less closed off. It almost came to the point where I realized the power the supposedly tougher challenge and unattainable had, how it somehow won my respect more than women I could have, and how I had to work for years to get myself to love women that were more attainable than those that were more of a challenge.
Yet I feel like most men respect and love women who are challenging and more on the unattainable side and take open, cool, and more attainable women for granted even if such a woman is very beautiful.
But hey, I want to hear another perspective on this psychology.

