Moving up the social ladder - Instagram influencers, rich people, high class social circles

[Jeff]

Hey guys,

Greetings from Bangalore, India.

I've been out and about since December 2019 (excluding 6 months when we had the two lockdowns), approaching and getting better. Since then, I've racked a total of 18 lays (7 from day game, 11 from apps).

At this point, I'm not even close to satisfied with the quality of girls I've gotten and made it my highest priority to get them.

I've also haven't gotten much out of night game, which is something I'm still getting used to. I did get a date from a techno party though.

I started going to techno events (Not into the music yet), forcing myself to enjoy the atmosphere and stay till the end.

I'm also talking to many people - the club owners, different groups of girls etc.,

However, I don't feel like I belong here and many of these girls are influencers.

My question is this -

1. Since I can't play the money/looks/social clout game, what can I offer these women? So far, I've been able to make them laugh and get them talking about themselves, but I'm still working on it.

I've also made it a point not to look desperate and get the club owners to do me favours and shit because the last thing I want is to be that guy who befriends them just for free booze, discounts, club entry, etc.

2. Once I know what I can offer them, how do I give them this and become a part of their social circle?

3. I currently feel totally out of place in social scenes like this - techno events, the dance scene, parties with fairly popular Instagram chicks etc. What should my mindset as I climb the social ladder and befriend various social gatekeepers?

All the pros here - Chase, Hector, Tony Depp, and everyone else. Help would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

~Aashish

 

[Tr1cky]

I don’t know how being in India affects this but I’m going to assume none since it appears you’re trying to run in western style circles (influencers, Instagram etc)

you may want to look into distantlight (rooshvforum probably scrubbed from the internet by now so good luck) as well as rsdluke. They’ve both done what you’re trying to do.

everyone wants something from someone else, otherwise there is no reason to have people around. You need to determine actually what these people want, but either don’t have or can’t easily find.

they already have money, they have social status, they have influence. I would avoid focusing on these things. Instead focus on things money can’t buy.

“Being cool” “fun” “excitement” “party vibes”. Those are the areas you’re going to be able to provide value in. In most clubs everyone is looking around trying to let loose and have a good time. If you can consistently provide that, they will want you around.

you need to give off the vibe that you are a celebrity aka someone worth knowing. A lot of this is done via non verbals. People should be thinking “who is this guy”.

you need to get the correct mindsets down. You are no longer impressed BY ANYONE OR ANYTHING. That doesn’t mean being arrogant, low energy, etc. Essentially you are no longer a “fanboy” for anything.

Dude has a Ferrari? Cool bro. Dude knows celebrities? Awesome bro. Dude has a multi million dollar condo? Sweet bro. Chick is a ten? That’ll do.

All you care about is fun, vibes, being social.

you need to become a social connector. Connect this person with that person. Give this girl to that dude. When you’re at the center of it all you become more valuable.


this is a five year long process. Best of luck

 

[trashKENNUT]

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[Illystorm]

I don’t know how being in India affects this but I’m going to assume none since it appears you’re trying to run in western style circles (influencers, Instagram etc)

you may want to look into distantlight (rooshvforum probably scrubbed from the internet by now so good luck) as well as rsdluke. They’ve both done what you’re trying to do.

everyone wants something from someone else, otherwise there is no reason to have people around. You need to determine actually what these people want, but either don’t have or can’t easily find.

they already have money, they have social status, they have influence. I would avoid focusing on these things. Instead focus on things money can’t buy.

“Being cool” “fun” “excitement” “party vibes”. Those are the areas you’re going to be able to provide value in. In most clubs everyone is looking around trying to let loose and have a good time. If you can consistently provide that, they will want you around.

you need to give off the vibe that you are a celebrity aka someone worth knowing. A lot of this is done via non verbals. People should be thinking “who is this guy”.

you need to get the correct mindsets down. You are no longer impressed BY ANYONE OR ANYTHING. That doesn’t mean being arrogant, low energy, etc. Essentially you are no longer a “fanboy” for anything.

Dude has a Ferrari? Cool bro. Dude knows celebrities? Awesome bro. Dude has a multi million dollar condo? Sweet bro. Chick is a ten? That’ll do.

All you care about is fun, vibes, being social.

you need to become a social connector. Connect this person with that person. Give this girl to that dude. When you’re at the center of it all you become more valuable.


this is a five year long process. Best of luck

Awesome insight man

It would be great to expand the topic of "things money or fame can't buy"

Because these are exactly the things that I find the most valuable in life personally

So, anyone else has even more ideas about things that belong to this category and wants to chime in?

 

[trashKENNUT]

It would be great to expand the topic of "things money or fame can't buy"

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[Illystorm]

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