Special Girl My crush keeps telling me about her sexual life

[StrayDog]

And I was called the best seducer in my country like 5 years ago.

oh? exactly who was calling you this?

 

[TrailBlazer]

oh? exactly who was calling you this?

Like 6 of my wingmen and very good seducers themselves. I think it’s because I was able to consistently kiss girls minutes after approaching them on the street, and laid a few girls in my first 6 months. People called me a good wingman because I had that killer instinct and I inspired it in others too.

And now I’m here:/ unable to convert even these huge chances.

During the meeting today I was actually looking forward to it ending and me coming to this forum as always, destroyed and crying for help. It’s terrible.

 

[gameboy]

Like 6 of my wingmen

Where did they all go?

Do they also believe that men have to "violate" women to have sex?

 

[TrailBlazer]

Where did they all go?

Do they also believe that men have to "violate" women to have sex?

Man I’m being serious here, no need to make fun of me. And to answer your questions, they stopped daygaming a long time ago. And no, they didn’t believe they have to violate women. I didn’t believe that either back then. I just tried and tried and lost tons of girls before I learnt how to escalate properly. What pisses me off is that now it’s like I never learnt anything.

 

[Ratata]

Again I take the role of the "tearer offer" of band aids: I think this woman is a lost cause and that you should GFTOW.

With that said, I think it's commendable that you actually tried and that you did something. Moreover, I don't think what you did was fruitless. But it mostly comes down to one thing: Balls (well, technically they come in pairs, but I digress). So yes, you were that bad... But I wouldn't cry over it. In fact, I would be proud, because you did what you could given the circumstances. The rest is just about mustering the courage to go through with it and face all possible consequences - which I don't think you're ready for, because I think you're actually afraid of rejection.

Btw. I can highly recommend reading Eckhart Tolle here. He would tell you to stop worrying about your past. Except for what you learned from it, it doesn't define you. Moreover, you shouldn't worry about the future either; certainly not that future which you have no control over. Instead focus on what you do have control over, and make your plans from there. Then release all worries, or lamentations, or feelings of lack or loss about all the other things that you cannot really do anything about, and that doesn't actually serve you at this point in time.

So you were Ghengis Kahn in your previous life... Well, how does that help you now? It probably doesn't. Except if you can utilize some of that knowledge of how to be a great seducer. But it doesn't look like you can though it seems to both irk you, and cause doubt in others, so I wouldn't even worry about it at all. I'd just treat it as something that is outside of your control at this point in time, and instead prepare for what you can do. And there are a great deal of things that you can do!

So, listen. I've kissed many women that weren't into it to begin with, and some even looked the other way before I acted. They all did so because they were waiting for me to take action. Because they are girls and I'm the man. And when I took action, they either got into it, or rejected me rightly. There are only two outcomes if you act, but there is only one if you don't do anything. So, if you wait or pussy out, the only one rejecting anyone is ... YOU. By not acting, you're essentially rejecting yourself.

Know then, that rejecting yourself is the worst kind of self-cuckery and cowardice that exists out there. I don't blame you for it. After all, for me it is a boon. By rejecting yourself, you simply represent yet another loser who pose no threat to me, no competition for other girls. And honestly, I love it when my would-be competitors chicken out before even trying, because then it makes the game so much easier for me... (Sorry. But sometimes getting pissed off is a great motivator lol.)

Ok, so let's change gears for a second. Allow me to tell you something about nobility.

You may think it was all roses to be noble or even royal, and that they probably didn't deserve their wealth. Well, I don't think you'd envy the nobility's number one privilege in war, since ancient times: To lead the army into to battle.

Take a moment to really suck that in. What do you think it means?

Well, it means being the first to attack the other army... It means you're the first guy to dive into their pointy spears and swords. That ... is your privilege! So, the privilege is essentially to die first, or be victorious. How brave... Yet, this sacrifice was needed for the nobles to even have the privilege of leading, much less having a title.

If you want more on this topic, please read the book Skin In The Game by Nassim Taleb. Only those with skin in the game deserve glory. Only those who lead other men into battle deserve a noble title, and all the finery that goes with it in times of peace. And only those who kiss the girl, deserve to be kissed back - at the risk of being rejected. Well, at least you won't die a glorious death, but if you actually try to kiss her, all us in here, even if you are rejected, will rejoice and think that your balls are really big.

 

[TrailBlazer]

Again I take the role of the "tearer offer" of band aids: I think this woman is a lost cause and that you should GFTOW.

With that said, I think it's commendable that you actually tried and that you did something. Moreover, I don't think what you did was fruitless. But it mostly comes down to one thing: Balls (well, technically they come in pairs, but I digress). So yes, you were that bad... But I wouldn't cry over it. In fact, I would be proud, because you did what you could given the circumstances. The rest is just about mustering the courage to go through with it and face all possible consequences - which I don't think you're ready for, because I think you're actually afraid of rejection.

Btw. I can highly recommend reading Eckhart Tolle here. He would tell you to stop worrying about your past. Except for what you learned from it, it doesn't define you. Moreover, you shouldn't worry about the future either; certainly not that future which you have no control over. Instead focus on what you do have control over, and make your plans from there. Then release all worries, or lamentations, or feelings of lack or loss about all the other things that you cannot really do anything about, and that doesn't actually serve you at this point in time.

So you were Ghengis Kahn in your previous life... Well, how does that help you now? It probably doesn't. Except if you can utilize some of that knowledge of how to be a great seducer. But it doesn't look like you can though it seems to both irk you, and cause doubt in others, so I wouldn't even worry about it at all. I'd just treat it as something that is outside of your control at this point in time, and instead prepare for what you can do. And there are a great deal of things that you can do!

So, listen. I've kissed many women that weren't into it to begin with, and some even looked the other way before I acted. They all did so because they were waiting for me to take action. Because they are girls and I'm the man. And when I took action, they either got into it, or rejected me rightly. There are only two outcomes if you act, but there is only one if you don't do anything. So, if you wait or pussy out, the only one rejecting anyone is ... YOU. By not acting, you're essentially rejecting yourself.

Know then, that rejecting yourself is the worst kind of self-cuckery and cowardice that exists out there. I don't blame you for it. After all, for me it is a boon. By rejecting yourself, you simply represent yet another loser who pose no threat to me, no competition for other girls. And honestly, I love it when my would-be competitors chicken out before even trying, because then it makes the game so much easier for me... (Sorry. But sometimes getting pissed off is a great motivator lol.)

Ok, so let's change gears for a second. Allow me to tell you something about nobility.

You may think it was all roses to be noble or even royal, and that they probably didn't deserve their wealth. Well, I don't think you'd envy the nobility's number one privilege in war, since ancient times: To lead the army into to battle.

Take a moment to really suck that in. What do you think it means?

Well, it means being the first to attack the other army... It means you're the first guy to dive into their pointy spears and swords. That ... is your privilege! So, the privilege is essentially to die first, or be victorious. How brave... Yet, this sacrifice was needed for the nobles to even have the privilege of leading, much less having a title.

If you want more on this topic, please read the book Skin In The Game by Nassim Taleb. Only those with skin in the game deserve glory. Only those who lead other men into battle deserve a noble title, and all the finery that goes with it in times of peace. And only those who kiss the girl, deserve to be kissed back - at the risk of being rejected. Well, at least you won't die a glorious death, but if you actually try to kiss her, all us in here, even if you are rejected, will rejoice and think that your balls are really big.

You always say that it’s a lost cause, yet on each meeting I manage to move the needle a little bit forward. Maybe you think it’s lost due to my inability to take action, but that’s not limited to this woman. I wasn’t able to escalate on recent dates with other women either. But I’m changing a lot, I will make sure to approach even more now, and that will open up new possibilities. So I’m sure that I’ll make it happen with this woman one day. But I agree that I need to go and meet other women now. I hate this logic (I want this one, not others!) but it always works to take the edge off.

About the power of now, I think that understanding why we are the way we are can help us change much faster, because we’ll know the original triggers. And for that we need to study our past. We can find the right approach to our problems much faster that way.

What bothers me is how much these fails with women hurt me. I literally used to break things on the street (like billboards) from the anger because I lost a girl, and that was after a minute long approach. I can’t function with this intense pain. I can’t work or even sleep now.

I will be more fearless. I hate that we have to climb this wall of fear only to find out that nothing really bad happens. And I know how many cool things could have happened with women I knew, had I pushed through. That really really sucks. I guess fearlessness is the only way to get what you want.

Now about this girl, we all know that she likes me and wants me. So it’s all about how I try to kiss her. She said no to a few things a few times in the past and then changed that to yes when I asked more confidently. So I somehow have to be on my A game when I do it.

She must feel so weird, I keep telling her about all the women I have and yet I struggle to escalate with her.

At the end of the last meeting I proposed a meeting a few days from now (sooner than usual) because I feel like I have to strike now. But she didn’t seem 100% convinced. So strange! She tells me all these things and now when I offer her a meet, she doesn’t jump it. So now I’ll either have to text her, or wait a week or more for our next meeting. And hear about her adventures again..

 

[OldGuy]

I had a couple of women like her, who gave multiple escalation windows and kept going out with me while talking about the guys they were screwing. Both broke down and cried when I told them I found someone else more than a decade later.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I had a couple of women like her, who gave multiple escalation windows and kept going out with me while talking about the guys they were screwing. Both broke down and cried when I told them I found someone else more than a decade later.

Well that gives me some hope. I really wonder how she thinks I see her. I keep disqualifying her but lately I’ve been touching her too, so it’s possible she’s confused. But she still isn’t chasing as much as I’d like her to. I’m hoping for some larger windows or IOIs soon so that I can finally seal the deal. It’s crazy that I still need more material, more gambits, more game to make things happen here.