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ThePhoenix

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This is a follow-up to OR:  Too  inhibited  to  give  a  sugar  daddy  a  fake  baby.


Final Effort

I  am now gone from Central  America, having ended  up spending over eight months in a small community there.

My heart is just slightly broken because I  did not even take a girl at  all, let  alone in such a manner as to make giving one of those dumbass sugar daddies a fake baby.

With that said, I  can at least report that in the last week or  so, I  gave it a very spirited attempt which did result in some more true cold approaches.

Over those seven days, I  cold approached five girls. (This could have been more, but itʼs not that cowardly, considering the low  population.) By  contrast, in the whole 7+  months before, I  tragically had only cold  approached one girl! This is an improvement of over one  hundred  and sixty  times!

The first two days of that last week, I  didnʼt approach even one girl, despite wandering the town from mid‑morning to twilight.

Ordinarily, a couple of days of that would have dissuaded me from potentially wasting even more precious time. I  would  have reminded myself that in Kampala,  Uganda, (or  even back  home, for  that  matter,) I  could have encountered vastly more girls in the same time  period, making inhibition far  less severe.

However, at this point, I  was very motivated to take a chick before leaving, so I  had already made a final decision in  advance that I  would try for  the whole week, even if it meant blowing a week. I  very much couldnʼt afford right now to just blow a week like that, but I  knew how unhappy Iʼd be afterwards if I  didnʼt try my very best with the time I  had  left.

I  have to say that my motivation was significantly heightened by my decision to try making a cutie pregnant if she let  me. I  also have  to say that, for  as  much  as I  want to share 50%/50% custody with a South  Sudanese chick, I  also now feel quite drawn to the idea of separately having some child out  there with my genes but someone elseʼs investment. Now  I  want  both!


The Approaches

I  wonʼt go into too much detail on the approaches themselves, as the main problem is approach volume, and now I  also badly need to re‑escape the  West, so my main focus is on better preparing for Africa ASAP.

First approach of the week was on day three, a Sunday. It was my first time hitting  on a chick in a typical small‑town store instead of the big‑box monstrosities Iʼm used  to approaching in. In  fact, I  even went into the store due  to having seen her go  in.

This one was a black girl, with lots of pigment, not lots of makeup, likely none, and hair totally natural. Beautiful exotic African-like features. While I  havenʼt been restricting myself to black girls as I  had always done prior to this trip, I  still really love this type, which helped overcome the inhibition.

After I  opened, she looked at me a  few moments without saying anything, and then returned  to tending to a kid she was with. However, her failure to reply did not feel dismissive; instead, it seemed like she was shy and/or didnʼt know English all that well. An overly literal response to a question made  me suspect the latter, though unusual in  this  town.

There are several things I  could have done better, but putting my hand on that beautiful smooth dark chocolate shoulder was a good step after months of chickening  out.

That carried a  bit of momentum into the next day, which produced two approaches, breaking my daily record for that town. In  fact, the first occurred after only 20  minutes or  so of leaving the house.

The other, on an I  think Mestiza chick, was only at the very end of the mission, as I  was returning home after  dark with my food. Approaching a chick after  dark has been an inhibiton sticking point, so this was a brave step and one that was enabled no  doubt by the backdrop of intense motivation.

Both those chicks were reasonably friendly, but didnʼt actually bite. I  suspect it did not help that in both cases I  just walked with the girl, making no attempt to actually stop her. In both cases the chick broke  off when our paths diverged. That needs work, but  again, work needs volume.

Two more days went by in which I  again chickened  out on every last opportunity. A typical day  out gave me at  least a dozen and possibly several dozen reasonable opportunities.

And then on the seventh day, the last day I  had free for game, I  managed to do another two approaches, both of  which broke inhibition sticking points. Both  of these chicks looked Mestiza, but a  litte more towards Maya.

The first was on a bike, which Iʼd never done before. Mind  you, she was riding slow alongside a walking friend, not flying  by giving me only a fleeting chance to stop her, as was more typical. In  Kampala I  will get a bike, as I  missed many opportunities due  to  that.

I  had long been trying to get myself to stop chicks in otherwise too‑distant positions by yelling, “¡Amiga!” (Literally  meaning “female  friend,” but I  often heard  it used to  hail a  stranger.) Iʼve never had the balls to even yell  to any stranger. In  this  case, I  didnʼt have to really yell, as I  had gotten myself just in front of her.

We chatted for a minute, and her and the friend stopped their conversation to allow this.

This was the only girl from the week that I  tried to close. She declined to give me her number in order to meet  up, noting instead with some confidence that weʼd see each other around. I  said that I  wouldnʼt be around much longer, but this did not change her position, so I  just gave  up.

The second approach of that last day, and my final approach in that country, was on a sexy chick in a red top and black shorts, who had been walking ahead of me along the main highway through the town. With  me 10  to  20  feet behind  her, she turned onto a side street, a laterite/gravel  road.

Following a chick onto a smaller street has been a huge inhibition sticking point for me. It makes  me kind  of feel like a stalker. Even, as  was the  case here, in broad daylight. But I  really didnʼt want to go  without talking  to yet  another chick, so I  followed her onto the small street.

While I  was still behind her she turned down a longer street that led back onto the highway after a  few blocks. With unusual boldness I  turned down that street as  well; it helped that it was more central than the others. I  passed  her shortly  after, and then addressed her from just  ahead, as I  had also done with other chicks that  week.

Instead of opening with something inert such as “¡Amiga!” in order to get her attention, I  just opened directly with a compliment on her outfit, on the red and black going good together. I  had  to repeat myself, which reminds  me that itʼs probably better to use some inert opening so  as  to have her attention, instead  of having  to repeat  myself.

The girl was fairly nonchalant but not unfriendly. I  had otherwise used English, but followed with, “Dime  tu  nombre.” This is not the usual way to ask for a name in Spanish, instead being quite intentionally phrased as an instruction rather than a question, as, “Tell  me your  name.” Same  thing I  have long  done back  home in English.

She replied with her name, which I  repeated. She gave her hand when I  gestured for  it and introduced myself. I  continued my typical initial routine in English, but didnʼt get  to chat for much time at  all, as shortly after, the girl switched sides with  me and then departed into a house a  few doors from where I  had opened  her.

I  should try harder to get a girl to stop walking, so  as to be able to close her before she heads off. In  this  case, I  was insecure about talking with the girl in  front  of the house. Maybe she has a husband in  there who will see  us and get  mad. I  hate the  way I  assume the worst. I  am still really battling with this socially imposed sense that hitting  on a girl is wrong.


Hail Marys

I  also took a quick shot at trying to resurrect three chicks I  had met earlier in my stay. With these chicks, the Sexy  Son Hypothesis had already determined that my son would not be sexy, so I  wasnʼt expecting much, but whatever.

Two were cashiers who I  had only managed to hit  on a  few  dozen encounters too  late. Live  by innocence, die  by innocence. Both had given  me their numbers but neither had ever answered. Incidentally they both worked in the same supermarket.

The Maya one I  hadnʼt seen in ages, so I  just tried pinging her on WhatsApp. Unsurprisingly, she didnʼt bother to answer.

The Kreyol (mixed black) one still worked at the store, so I  decided to just talk  to her there. At the beginning of the week I  let her know it was my last week, but didnʼt feel comfortable suggesting a meet‑up due to a nearby male employee.

On my final day of game I  saw her again and asked her, “You  free after  work?”

I  phrased it so as to require an affirmative answer on purpose. Normally Iʼd avoid doing that because itʼs too easy to get a “no,” but I  didnʼt want  to make refusal difficult with this one, because from prior experience, sheʼd probably just passively agree and then ghost me. I  didnʼt have time for that, so I  decided to just put  it out  there in such a way that if she said “yes,” she actually meant  it.

Not surprisingly, she said “no,” but thatʼs what I  get for cashing  out by  her dozens of times before getting the nerve to hit  on  her.

(By contrast, thereʼs a girl in another store who I  had hit  on almost right away, and that  one had laughed and refused her number outright. Because that  one knew I  was out to fuck her, not be her innocent friend or orbiter or whatever. An  average chump would probably interpret these outcomes backwards.)

My least hopeless existing lead was a Kreyol chick I  had cold approached on the street months before. I  had gotten the chick home but unfortunately, between inhibition and limited time on her  part, I  didnʼt escalate, after  which she of  course fizzled  out.

I  reached out after a couple months of radio silence, and she was responsive. I  let her know that I  would be leaving the country soon, and this I  think may have helped. She did seem initially at  least somewhat open to meeting  up again before then.

Actually, the chick spotted me, wandering around looking for chicks, as she was biking to work on a subsequent day. She rolled  up and rode beside me until our paths split. She was in good humour, told me she lives in the area we were in, and teased me about my being crazy to  have walked so far. As we parted  ways she volunteered that she would message  me.

Unfortunately things went south when I  tried to ensure logistics were good for sex. She worked one morning, hinting that a meeting after work might be most practical. But I  had already been burned the first time by having her over for too  little time, so I  asked her how  much time weʼd have. This seemed to get some subtle ASD, which I  tried to work around.

She then asked where we would meet, and answering this was tricky, partly due to logistics, but also because of a strategic uncertainty. Our first date wasnʼt even a date. She had cancelled previously and then I  took advantage of that to get her to come straight to my house. Worked like a charm and she even had texted something rather sexually suggestive.

So, on one hand, I  felt that getting her to come straight over again was not only possible but may have even been necessary in  order to not end  up framed in the provider role. This because not pulling her straight home would  have in a sense been backsliding from where we had already been.

On the other hand, I  barely knew this chick, and this town was both religious and gossipy, so I  was insecure about just asking  her straight home, especially since I  was afraid she may have already been in ASD mode after the meet duration question.

I  actually had a rather airtight excuse I  could have used to get her home without any worry of ASD at  all. I  had started to show her some creative projects of mine last  time, but we didnʼt get time to delve into them properly. The problem with this excuse, however, is that itʼs too airtight! I  was very cognizant of the risk that her sex  drive, already denied last  time, would be thoroughly unimpressed by this suggestion. The last thing I  wanted was for her to be absolutely  certain that this would be a platonic encounter.

I  was quite torn, had little time to really think about it, and ended  up giving her an answer that was too innocent to be guilty, but too guilty to be innocent. That triggered the “I  will  let  you  know” shit  test.

Normally I  handle this test using a tip from Seppuku: just cooly retract the present date suggestion in  favour of an unspecified future meet. I  have had that work very well, but in this  case that tactic was not an option because I  wouldnʼt even be in the country in  a matter of days.

This is the closest thing I  could figure  out:

me: Morning Alina. It sounds like meeting  up is not so easy for you right  now so letʼs not worry about it. Maybe we can meet again in the future.

her: Itʼs not like that itʼs just that I  dnt think am up to that right now sry

me: No worries hun

I  was, of course, trying to convey outcome independence, and this was a huge gamble. I  was hoping that it would turn her around, but it didnʼt. Should have fucked  her when I  had the chance.


Back In The West

[Continued in this  journal  post, which gives my early impressions of chicks back  in the  West through my lens revised by Central  America, considers what I  will do about chicks while I  am here for six  months, and considers various possibilities to still get the “freebie” offspring that I  didnʼt get while in Central  America.]
 

Railer

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Reading this left me feeling uneasy ... it's possibly the same for the girls. Appears your fundamentals need work and when you use terms like "ASD" or "shit test" it actually sounds like they're being afraid.

Be aware that growing up without (the real) father usually has serious implications on mental health for a human being. Nothing wrong with enjoying the fantasy of getting a random girl pregnant, but why actually aim for it?
 

ThePhoenix

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... Appears your fundamentals need work and when you use terms like "ASD" or "shit test" it actually sounds like they're being afraid.

I  appreciate the feedback.

Youʼre absolutely right, my fundamentals likely are a  bit weak right now. I  was approaching more back in 2018 and I  probably came across more naturally at that point because I  was getting more practice. Iʼve long been battling with inhibition, and that got much worse during “COVID”. The number of girls Iʼve approached in the past year-plus is only the number I  would have approached in a month in 2018, which still wasnʼt really enough but was at least enough to get  laid. That has a big impact. Volume is my #1  problem right  now, and Iʼm taking measures to hopefully overcome that soon.

As for the “shit test,” it is only the one girl who was doing that, and her doing so was totally  predicted by the Sexy  Son Hypothesis. Getting her home initially was quite easy, partly because I  do have a pretty good theoretical understanding of the psychology. But then I  was a little chicken  shit and didnʼt try to escalate even after her text had made it pretty clear she was sexually open. It  is  a  given that girls get difficult if you donʼt rise to the occasion sexually when you first have the  chance. You can see this over and over and over on the forum.

The reason is biological. Promiscuous males are at a tremendous reproductive advantage over monogamous ones, due to the asymmetric reproductive output of males vs. females. Assuming that promiscuity is heritable, this means that females who prefer to be impregnated by promiscuous males over monogamous ones are themselves at a reproductive advantage when considering their second-degree offspring. Tons of scientific data and anectotal evidence alike agrees that this has had a significant impact on the human female psyche over the eons.

Iʼve seen it myself. When youʼre too innocent, they lose interest. Take  too  long, they lose interest. Conversely, behave in a manner that is subtly consistent with a guy that goes around sleeping with tons of women, and they get more  interested, not  less. I  only  ever got  laid once I  came  to really appreciate this.

Be aware that growing up without (the real) father usually has serious implications on mental health for a human being. Nothing wrong with enjoying the fantasy of getting a random girl pregnant, but why actually aim for it?

First off, Iʼd never be dishonest with a woman. Iʼd make sure she knows what the situation is and will be the first to make sure she has birth  control if she isnʼt sure of her ability and willingness to handle  it.

But, see, my perspective is different.

I  did have my (AFAIK) biological father growing up. While I  do appreciate how much practical care he provided me, I  also was left with a huge psychological hole because he was too good  and  innocent. He believed in the whole monogamous “good  man” stereotype, and that unfortunately, in concert with our societyʼs overall influences as well as a very proprietous extended family, put me in a position of being extremely vulnerable to oneitis, not getting enough practice with females, being far  too innocent with them, not acting in a way that was sexy. The  damage was immense.

Far too late in life I  came to really understand and appreciate that females are biologically programmed to get pregnant by a polygamous  male and then have a monogamous one provide  for her offspring. While they may not actually do this in the majority of cases, it is a powerful instinct. It  is  the  very  reason that I  got that chick home easily the first time, yet ran into testiness after I  didnʼt fuck  her that  first  time.

I  actually wish I  could say that my mom got knocked  up by some random dude Iʼve never met and that some other guy took care of me. I  very honestly feel Iʼd have been better  off having that reality in my mind from before puberty. My  friends who did have that reality, were all fucking girls while I  was caught  up in one oneitis after another. To  say the opposite is based merely in a social construct, and one that certainly did  not help  me with women.

But thatʼs just my perspective, based on my own knowledge and life experience. I  appreciate that there are other perspectives which also have their merits. I have yet to see how Iʼll actually conduct myself in this situation, and it will likely depend on weighing many complex and sometimes contradictory factors.
 

Railer

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Is the story of the girl and the text she wrote on the forum?

The friends who were all fucking girls, what were their fathers like?

The one friend who did best with girls, what relationship did he have to his father?
 

Karea Ricardus D.

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Hey what kind of verbal game do you run on these girls?

Is it all direct game?
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake
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