Wealth  No Sex - Building A Business & Feeling Crazy

Troy

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Hello GC

So I have been reading the articles by Varoon Rajah, I am not sure, but I think that is @Grand Pooba on the boards. Anyways I really think his most recent articles are really dope, real good stuff he wrote in the articles


And these articles made me think, in a good way about how I can build my lifestyle for the new world we live in today. To get to my question, in a nutshell, back in April, I made a post about my life story and how I was deciding to persue girls or go make money. And I have decided to stick to focusing on building my business. Fast forward now July 16, I am making progress in growing my business but no clear sign of making it big enough as yet for me to start going after girls again.

Problem is, I am horny as hell every goddamn day and I have not gotten any sex since, I dont even remember when, late 2019? Yeah around that time. Building a business is very stressful and to not have a girlfriend or fwb, this COVID19 is making me feel like a chump and it's making me very depressed. Since April, I have been working 7 days a week, at least 6 hours every single day on my business (12 hours minimum on weekends) while having a 45 hour per week day job.

Every week, I have to masturbate 1 - 2 times, just so I can clear my mind and switch my mind back to working my business. The problem is masturbation is getting very boring, even the porn is starting to get boring to me. I literally fell asleep the other night while I was watching a porn video, it was that boring.

And I am now left without an alternative. The drive to have sex with a woman is real, I cannot deny that. I am doing my best to stay away from victim mentality and I am really looking for solutions.

When I look at my life, I am not in any situation to consistently get a girl. I am from the Caribbean, and I work at a call center for my day job. For some context, working in the call center jobs is basically minimum wage, struggle to afford anything more than just food and bills. Since the COVID19, myself and all employees are working from home. A lot of jobs which attract young girls, they are all now working at home. Which means day game is literally down to an all time low.

See the thing is, I have a strong desire to be a better man every day and its becoming more difficult for me to focus on building my businesss and lifestyle as I get older each day. My parents are from poor backgrounds and how we got into a middle class/rich neighborhood is a whole other story in its own right, in summary its an inheritance family house.

Even before the COVID19, my logistics were (and still are) crap. I live with my parents, I have my own bedroom, but that is just about it. Even if I were to move out of my parents house right now, I would end up spending 80% of my call center job income on just rent. That leaves me with 20% to buy food, which ain't a whole lot. And I would end up just stuck even more. Right now, I do invest as much money from my job into growing my digital agency.

I live in a neighborhood where just about everyone drives. When I am going grocery shopping or running any errands, I have to walk, while 95% of people drive. I have lived in this neighborhood the past 3 years and in that time, I have come across less than 5 beautiful women who even walk.

What hurts even more is, a lot of the guys seem to have life much better. Most guys either drive their own car or their parents car so getting laid will be easier for them. The COVID19 has not stopped girls from hooking up with guys who have cars and nice homes in my opinion. I feel so depressed every time I am walking to buy groceries or handle some other business outside the home and I see a guy under 35 years old, driving past me in a Mercedes Benz, Porsche or BMW or other car brand (sometimes even just a honda or toyota) and there is a hot girl on his front seat. Yeah they may sometimes be wearing a face mask while driving together, but she is going to give him some good sex that same day I can tell or she is already a girlfriend/wife.

Restaurants are still closed off from people dining in them, which means, now is even a more important time to have a car. The rich guys just pick up girls in their car, go get some food at the restaurant and then they go to a quiet spot and have sex in their car.

Me?

I'm so poor at the momnt, no girl is going to walk 10 minutes from the taxi stand back to my home, especially during COVID19 to go have sex. (I could at times find $5 to pay a taxi driver to turn off and carry me and the girl right to my gate, and again tha is a challenge since I still have not really figured out how to date while living in this kind of poverty situation.

2 weeks ago, I deleted Whatsapp from my phone because all the girls I asked out and was making contact with from during COVID19 beginning, they all started responding to me much less. I asked them out on a date in June when I thought life was slowly returning to normal. 1 girl never responded. Another girl made told me "I am on pip at my job" (basically means if her work performance does not improve they might fire her. She also works at a call center) and another girl I asked out, she has not gotten back to me over a month.

To avoid me getting more depressed with the situation, I just deleted Whatsapp, because of how the app is, I can see when they were last online or is currently online. Whatsapp just gives so much data on what another person is potentially doing at various times of the day, if I am not careful with my emotions, I may find myself checking my phone every couple hours to see if the girls are online. When these girls are online, that means they are texting or calling other people, just not me. And that makes me wonder... are these girls secretly hooking up with other guys?

Maybe they are, maybe they are not. All I know for a fact is, during the COVID19, girls seem to be going for the rich guys, the guys who have a nice car or home now more than ever.

And as for me, I am left hanging.

Really I need an alternative to relieve some stress until I can improve the quality of my life. Do you guys know what I could potentially do to keep my mind off sex? And any advice on how I can just simply focus on building my business and ignore women for now?

I made a promise to myself and posted that on the boards and I want to stick to that promise. My goal is to work closely with my business partners to grow my digital agency, generating good cash flow so I can tackle the problems one at a time

1. Nice car
2. An apartment

Honestly speaking, until I get my money in order, I don't think I am ever going to improve my dating life... I sort of come off as low status to a lot of people when they all seem to have cool social circles, nice cars and homes and I don't have any of these things.
 
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Mr STIF

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Hello GC

So I have been reading the articles by Varoon Rajah, I am not sure, but I think that is @Grand Pooba on the boards. Anyways I really think his most recent articles are really dope, real good stuff he wrote in the articles


And these articles made me think, in a good way about how I can build my lifestyle for the new world we live in today. To get to my question, in a nutshell, back in April, I made a post about my life story and how I was deciding to persue girls or go make money. And I have decided to stick to focusing on building my business. Fast forward now July 16, I am making progress in growing my business but no clear sign of making it big enough as yet for me to start going after girls again.

Problem is, I am horny as hell every goddamn day and I have not gotten any sex since, I dont even remember when, late 2019? Yeah around that time. Building a business is very stressful and to not have a girlfriend or fwb, this COVID19 is making me feel like a chump and it's making me very depressed. Since April, I have been working 7 days a week, at least 6 hours every single day on my business (12 hours minimum on weekends) while having a 45 hour per week day job.

Every week, I have to masturbate 1 - 2 times, just so I can clear my mind and switch my mind back to working my business. The problem is masturbation is getting very boring, even the porn is starting to get boring to me. I literally fell asleep the other night while I was watching a porn video, it was that boring.

And I am now left without an alternative. The drive to have sex with a woman is real, I cannot deny that. I am doing my best to stay away from victim mentality and I am really looking for solutions.

When I look at my life, I am not in any situation to consistently get a girl. I am from the Caribbean, and I work at a call center for my day job. For some context, working in the call center jobs is basically minimum wage, struggle to afford anything more than just food and bills. Since the COVID19, myself and all employees are working from home. A lot of jobs which attract young girls, they are all now working at home. Which means day game is literally down to an all time low.

See the thing is, I have a strong desire to be a better man every day and its becoming more difficult for me to focus on building my businesss and lifestyle as I get older each day. My parents are from poor backgrounds and how we got into a middle class/rich neighborhood is a whole other story in its own right, in summary its an inheritance family house.

Even before the COVID19, my logistics were (and still are) crap. I live with my parents, I have my own bedroom, but that is just about it. Even if I were to move out of my parents house right now, I would end up spending 80% of my call center job income on just rent. That leaves me with 20% to buy food, which ain't a whole lot. And I would end up just stuck even more. Right now, I do invest as much money from my job into growing my digital agency.

I live in a neighborhood where just about everyone drives. When I am going grocery shopping or running any errands, I have to walk, while 95% of people drive. I have lived in this neighborhood the past 3 years and in that time, I have come across less than 5 beautiful women who even walk.

What hurts even more is, a lot of the guys seem to have life much better. Most guys either drive their own car or their parents car so getting laid will be easier for them. The COVID19 has not stopped girls from hooking up with guys who have cars and nice homes in my opinion. I feel so depressed every time I am walking to buy groceries or handle some other business outside the home and I see a guy under 35 years old, driving past me in a Mercedes Benz, Porsche or BMW or other car brand (sometimes even just a honda or toyota) and there is a hot girl on his front seat. Yeah they may sometimes be wearing a face mask while driving together, but she is going to give him some good sex that same day I can tell or she is already a girlfriend/wife.

Restaurants are still closed off from people dining in them, which means, now is even a more important time to have a car. The rich guys just pick up girls in their car, go get some food at the restaurant and then they go to a quiet spot and have sex in their car.

Me?

I'm so poor at the momnt, no girl is going to walk 10 minutes from the taxi stand back to my home, especially during COVID19 to go have sex. (I could at times find $5 to pay a taxi driver to turn off and carry me and the girl right to my gate, and again tha is a challenge since I still have not really figured out how to date while living in this kind of poverty situation.

2 weeks ago, I deleted Whatsapp from my phone because all the girls I asked out and was making contact with from during COVID19 beginning, they all started responding to me much less. I asked them out on a date in June when I thought life was slowly returning to normal. 1 girl never responded. Another girl made told me "I am on pip at my job" (basically means if her work performance does not improve they might fire her. She also works at a call center) and another girl I asked out, she has not gotten back to me over a month.

To avoid me getting more depressed with the situation, I just deleted Whatsapp, because of how the app is, I can see when they were last online or is currently online. Whatsapp just gives so much data on what another person is potentially doing at various times of the day, if I am not careful with my emotions, I may find myself checking my phone every couple hours to see if the girls are online. When these girls are online, that means they are texting or calling other people, just not me. And that makes me wonder... are these girls secretly hooking up with other guys?

Maybe they are, maybe they are not. All I know for a fact is, during the COVID19, girls seem to be going for the rich guys, the guys who have a nice car or home now more than ever.

And as for me, I am left hanging.

Really I need an alternative to relieve some stress until I can improve the quality of my life. Do you guys know what I could potentially do to keep my mind off sex? And any advice on how I can just simply focus on building my business and ignore women for now?

I made a promise to myself and posted that on the boards and I want to stick to that promise. My goal is to work closely with my business partners to grow my digital agency, generating good cash flow so I can tackle the problems one at a time

1. Nice car
2. An apartment

Honestly speaking, until I get my money in order, I don't think I am ever going to improve my dating life... I sort of come off as low status to a lot of people when they all seem to have cool social circles, nice cars and homes and I don't have any of these things.
Thanks for sharing your story. I remembered myself as at 2017/2018, broke without hopes of any future income. I was trying to play soccer professionally, my parents thought I was too old and wanted something different. They refused to sponsor me but I was stubborn.

I stopped working with my Father, so my income dropped until I became penniless. But I still live with them.

I had to forget about my soccer dream. Now, i'm back working with my Father and the money is coming, at least, a daily income.

Meanwhile, I took time to learn cold approach, specifically, while I was playing soccer. I would train in the mornings and do cold approaches in the afternoon.

I experienced so many mindset shifts. I'll manage to buy some clothes and the girls I approached never knew how broke I was. They even thought I had it all well in life, I'm in Nigeria (a Third World country).

Sometimes it felt like I was pretending or living a fake life but the idea of NLP is fake it till you make it.

I didn't know how to meet cute strangers so I took out some months to practice getting numbers from cold approaches(just that, I didn't do more than that).

My reason was dates cost money, handling logistics cost money so I forget about that part of the get-the-woman-process and focus on the parts that doesn't require money.

Parts like mastering vibing, opening, chaseframes, role plays, story telling, female mindsets, exchanging numbers.

Do you know I got so many numbers without following up on them. Don't get me wrong I love sex.

Pickup is a sport and there are skills we use to play the game: if you can master cold approach but don't follow up for the main time you'll get better at meeting strangers, connecting with them.

Once your income starts to go up you can start living the lifestyle you really want to live.

My finances has improved, my fashion has improved too, I have a nice personality too from playing the fields, I still live with my parents but I can afford a cheap motel and I figured out quite a few other cheap ones too.

You get good fundamentals through day game, that is, you begin to become a good conversationalist and your AA seems to be minimized, your personality begins to tweak.

Now that I've got a steady income and job, I don't have time to practice cold approach. But Ive managed to create a small amount of time for it and I discipline myself to practice even though it's for 4hours a week.

I opened social media accounts and got laid with a petite girl I found online, in one of the cheap motels I discovered. She is now a FWB.

I was also masturbating a lot those years, cold approach felt like mental masturbation as I had no where to isolate them to for comfort.

I've cleaned up on porno for many months because I have a better way of relieving stress.

I'll advice to start cold approaching to give you that sexual personality, only spend money on clothes and it must not be every week or month.

Don't do dates, just do it for the sake of practice and know fundamentally that you're attractive and you need some bucks to create a nice lifestyle to bring women into.

Did you know that while I was broke I still had a gf who loved me so much but I was only good at playing the lover role.

So we broke up because she wanted a relationship which is a mix of provider and lover value.

I'm in Africa, people are poor: we really value money and no woman wants to have a man who cannot provide,at least every once in a while.

Brother, forget about sex for now and get good at sparking attraction. The only best way to do that is practice day game.

Sex is the reward for sparking attraction. There are no two ways about that.
 

Troy

Tool-Bearing Hominid
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Thanks for sharing your story. I remembered myself as at 2017/2018, broke without hopes of any future income. I was trying to play soccer professionally, my parents thought I was too old and wanted something different. They refused to sponsor me but I was stubborn.

I stopped working with my Father, so my income dropped until I became penniless. But I still live with them.

I had to forget about my soccer dream. Now, i'm back working with my Father and the money is coming, at least, a daily income.

Meanwhile, I took time to learn cold approach, specifically, while I was playing soccer. I would train in the mornings and do cold approaches in the afternoon.

I experienced so many mindset shifts. I'll manage to buy some clothes and the girls I approached never knew how broke I was. They even thought I had it all well in life, I'm in Nigeria (a Third World country).

Sometimes it felt like I was pretending or living a fake life but the idea of NLP is fake it till you make it.

I didn't know how to meet cute strangers so I took out some months to practice getting numbers from cold approaches(just that, I didn't do more than that).

My reason was dates cost money, handling logistics cost money so I forget about that part of the get-the-woman-process and focus on the parts that doesn't require money.

Parts like mastering vibing, opening, chaseframes, role plays, story telling, female mindsets, exchanging numbers.

Do you know I got so many numbers without following up on them. Don't get me wrong I love sex.

Pickup is a sport and there are skills we use to play the game: if you can master cold approach but don't follow up for the main time you'll get better at meeting strangers, connecting with them.

Once your income starts to go up you can start living the lifestyle you really want to live.

My finances has improved, my fashion has improved too, I have a nice personality too from playing the fields, I still live with my parents but I can afford a cheap motel and I figured out quite a few other cheap ones too.

You get good fundamentals through day game, that is, you begin to become a good conversationalist and your AA seems to be minimized, your personality begins to tweak.

Now that I've got a steady income and job, I don't have time to practice cold approach. But Ive managed to create a small amount of time for it and I discipline myself to practice even though it's for 4hours a week.

I opened social media accounts and got laid with a petite girl I found online, in one of the cheap motels I discovered. She is now a FWB.

I was also masturbating a lot those years, cold approach felt like mental masturbation as I had no where to isolate them to for comfort.

I've cleaned up on porno for many months because I have a better way of relieving stress.

I'll advice to start cold approaching to give you that sexual personality, only spend money on clothes and it must not be every week or month.

Don't do dates, just do it for the sake of practice and know fundamentally that you're attractive and you need some bucks to create a nice lifestyle to bring women into.

Did you know that while I was broke I still had a gf who loved me so much but I was only good at playing the lover role.

So we broke up because she wanted a relationship which is a mix of provider and lover value.

I'm in Africa, people are poor: we really value money and no woman wants to have a man who cannot provide,at least every once in a while.

Brother, forget about sex for now and get good at sparking attraction. The only best way to do that is practice day game.

Sex is the reward for sparking attraction. There are no two ways about that.

Thanks for sharing your story as well @Mr STIF that really gave me another way of looking at things. From what you recommended I do, I am going to grade myself on what I think are my strengths and things I think I could improve on

Strengths

Good looks and fashion:
So even though right now I don't have a lot of money, when I go to work, shopping or other social events where girls already know me, I do get a lot of girls staring at me. And occasionally girls will tell me "you are cute", "you look really hot", "i like your shirt", "you always dress nice". Fashion has always been one of my natural strengths. I don't even like going clothes shopping because it takes so long and the reason it takes long is because I spend a good amount of time picking clothes that match my personality and are also sexy. I incorporate a lot of blue, red, brown, red, white, black, green clothes in my wardrobe. And I usually have a nice accessory like a watch or neckace to go with it.

Ability To Motivate Women: Because I have big dreams in life to be great, whenever I meet some women who also have big dreams, we usually have such good conversations, I actually end up motivating them to take on the challenge. I have had dates where girls tell me I made their day/night.

(and I have other strengths, but I will leave it at those 2 for now)

Weaknesses

Conversation skills & Anxiety:
because I spend so much time either exercising and building my business, I dont take part in regular activities most young people do such as watching football on Sundays, watching tv, playing video games, spending hours on social media doing random stuff e.t.c...whenever I am in group conversations: at work or social events, I usually have a difficult time relating to people. And that causes me to have major anxiety as well which makes me come off as shy to many people. Of course, when my business takes off, I do plan to spend more time on other activities. Right now though, I need to spend most of my time "catching 1 rabbit" as they say. Once I handle the money, I will have more flexibility to do other things without worrying about next months bills

Not Enough Experience Dating: while I have gone on a few dates over the years, I did not make it my priority, because usually I never even had enough money to pay for my dates, not even cheap dates. And my logistics always sucked which made me even more anxious because I would sometimes go on dates, girls would (sometimes) seem interested in getting to know me better and all I would do is end the date out of fear. Reality, know car, no apartment, getting to the sex was extremely difficult. So that was a big turnoff for me. Which means that my flirting skills and sexual vibe could be improved quite a bit.

(and again I have other weakness but I will leave it at those 2 for now)

I read your advice carefully and my biggest takeaway that I will implement on is where you said "brother, forget about sex for now and get good at sparking attraction. The only best way to do that is practice day game."

With that said, my number 1 priority is getting my logistics right first, I got tired of getting friend zoned because I could not pull the trigger. I probably have 500 + phone numbers from girls I met over the years where not much has panned out. Yeah many times it my fault for saying or doing the wrong thing to cause her to lose attraction hence why my takeaway from your advise @Mr STIF is to focus on sparking attraction.

The #1 issue affecting my dating life is my logistics. From your experience, did you find anyway to focus on that prevented your sexual urge from getting too high?

Building a business is hard. I just want to get my mind off of sex for now, because it causes major depression when I think about it too much, which affects my productivity. I really need to reduce my sexual desires for now and pour most of that energy into getting my lifestyle in order.

Again thanks for your advice and sharing your story
 

Mr STIF

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Thanks for sharing your story as well @Mr STIF that really gave me another way of looking at things. From what you recommended I do, I am going to grade myself on what I think are my strengths and things I think I could improve on

Strengths

Good looks and fashion:
So even though right now I don't have a lot of money, when I go to work, shopping or other social events where girls already know me, I do get a lot of girls staring at me. And occasionally girls will tell me "you are cute", "you look really hot", "i like your shirt", "you always dress nice". Fashion has always been one of my natural strengths. I don't even like going clothes shopping because it takes so long and the reason it takes long is because I spend a good amount of time picking clothes that match my personality and are also sexy. I incorporate a lot of blue, red, brown, red, white, black, green clothes in my wardrobe. And I usually have a nice accessory like a watch or neckace to go with it.

Ability To Motivate Women: Because I have big dreams in life to be great, whenever I meet some women who also have big dreams, we usually have such good conversations, I actually end up motivating them to take on the challenge. I have had dates where girls tell me I made their day/night.

(and I have other strengths, but I will leave it at those 2 for now)

Weaknesses

Conversation skills & Anxiety:
because I spend so much time either exercising and building my business, I dont take part in regular activities most young people do such as watching football on Sundays, watching tv, playing video games, spending hours on social media doing random stuff e.t.c...whenever I am in group conversations: at work or social events, I usually have a difficult time relating to people. And that causes me to have major anxiety as well which makes me come off as shy to many people. Of course, when my business takes off, I do plan to spend more time on other activities. Right now though, I need to spend most of my time "catching 1 rabbit" as they say. Once I handle the money, I will have more flexibility to do other things without worrying about next months bills

Not Enough Experience Dating: while I have gone on a few dates over the years, I did not make it my priority, because usually I never even had enough money to pay for my dates, not even cheap dates. And my logistics always sucked which made me even more anxious because I would sometimes go on dates, girls would (sometimes) seem interested in getting to know me better and all I would do is end the date out of fear. Reality, know car, no apartment, getting to the sex was extremely difficult. So that was a big turnoff for me. Which means that my flirting skills and sexual vibe could be improved quite a bit.

(and again I have other weakness but I will leave it at those 2 for now)

I read your advice carefully and my biggest takeaway that I will implement on is where you said "brother, forget about sex for now and get good at sparking attraction. The only best way to do that is practice day game."

With that said, my number 1 priority is getting my logistics right first, I got tired of getting friend zoned because I could not pull the trigger. I probably have 500 + phone numbers from girls I met over the years where not much has panned out. Yeah many times it my fault for saying or doing the wrong thing to cause her to lose attraction hence why my takeaway from your advise @Mr STIF is to focus on sparking attraction.

The #1 issue affecting my dating life is my logistics. From your experience, did you find anyway to focus on that prevented your sexual urge from getting too high?

Building a business is hard. I just want to get my mind off of sex for now, because it causes major depression when I think about it too much, which affects my productivity. I really need to reduce my sexual desires for now and pour most of that energy into getting my lifestyle in order.

Again thanks for your advice and sharing your story
I'm not sure any human being can take their minds off sex for long because that's how we were born. At different times of the month you will feel horny.

Every morning we get rock hard erections while women have their nipples hard and pussy soaked. All these are signs that we are biological beings. That's the reason you made this post in the first place. You can't take your mind off sex and it's driving you crazy.

Even though I said forget about sex and practice day game: I had and is still having a hard time forgetting about sex.

Now, you stated your strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the game.
I'm also planning to get an apartment next year, I also planned to become a freelancer in the digital marketing sector but I don't have that time to work on my skills as I spend most of my time working with Father.

Though I don't have logistics to isolate women but I'm still catching fun doing cold approaches because I want the experience of having that cold approach skill,at least for now.

I still have sex with my FWB twice every two weeks to relieve stress, then I focus on making money and doing cold approaches.

This whole pickup women thing is a game with skills, a puzzle in our lives to be solved. That's why you were advised to work on yourself first. One of the puzzle is AA, if you look around you'll see that master seducers have this handled to an extent. That should be your first goal, it will take time but once you start getting it right your anxiety goes away and you become a confident Man.

While you're getting the cold approach experience you are also working on your financial goals + the experience of chatting with them online.

I'll really want to see FR's from you doing cold approaches.
 

Bacchus

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Really I need an alternative to relieve some stress until I can improve the quality of my life. Do you guys know what I could potentially do to keep my mind off sex? And any advice on how I can just simply focus on building my business and ignore women for now?

I made a promise to myself and posted that on the boards and I want to stick to that promise. My goal is to work closely with my business partners to grow my digital agency, generating good cash flow so I can tackle the problems one at a time

1. Nice car
2. An apartment

Honestly speaking, until I get my money in order, I don't think I am ever going to improve my dating life... I sort of come off as low status to a lot of people when they all seem to have cool social circles, nice cars and homes and I don't have any of these things.

First you should learn how to channel and direct sexual energy away from the genitals.

Something else worth mentioning is you don't need tangible status to come across as a cool guy. Because while a nice car and an apartment will help your logistical game, these things are not strict requirements for anyone. . . and that includes you. . . to have an abundant and enjoyable dating life.

I understand that you want to focus on your business life, so you can just stick to the advice on sexual energy in that link.

Body oriented therapy will also help you rid yourself of anxiety. And perhaps you should know that ever since I was a teenager. . . I've been taking girls I met off day game and in nightlife to scenic but secluded parks, shagging chicks in parking lots. . . and charming women a few years older than I was into following me down the steps of private stairwells. . . so that I could escalate. Learning to bed girls in unusual and unconventional locations is a useful skill.

Getting an apartment was a big step forward in my seducer's journey. But if I hadn't already started it before then I wouldn't be the man I am today.

What's more is if you want to make money. . . do it because its what you want to do. Not because you think wealth will help you exude high status and get laid. As a matter of fact improving your frame control is what you should work on. . . if you want to get a better sex life out of your present living situation. And remember that regardless of what's currently going on in the world the lover. . . always wins the dating game. On that note it is also worth mentioning that I still don't have a car. I don't even know how to drive. However I did have repeat sex inside a car. . . for the first time earlier this week.
 
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Troy

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I'm not sure any human being can take their minds off sex for long because that's how we were born. At different times of the month you will feel horny.

Every morning we get rock hard erections while women have their nipples hard and pussy soaked. All these are signs that we are biological beings. That's the reason you made this post in the first place. You can't take your mind off sex and it's driving you crazy.

Even though I said forget about sex and practice day game: I had and is still having a hard time forgetting about sex.

Now, you stated your strengths and weaknesses when it comes to the game.
I'm also planning to get an apartment next year, I also planned to become a freelancer in the digital marketing sector but I don't have that time to work on my skills as I spend most of my time working with Father.

Though I don't have logistics to isolate women but I'm still catching fun doing cold approaches because I want the experience of having that cold approach skill,at least for now.

I still have sex with my FWB twice every two weeks to relieve stress, then I focus on making money and doing cold approaches.

This whole pickup women thing is a game with skills, a puzzle in our lives to be solved. That's why you were advised to work on yourself first. One of the puzzle is AA, if you look around you'll see that master seducers have this handled to an extent. That should be your first goal, it will take time but once you start getting it right your anxiety goes away and you become a confident Man.

While you're getting the cold approach experience you are also working on your financial goals + the experience of chatting with them online.

I'll really want to see FR's from you doing cold approaches.

Yeah sounds great! I will definitely post Field Reports once I get back in the game 100%. Right now I am home, it's the weekend and I am preparing to work 30 hours this weekend on my business so that by Monday morning, I can make more money and get closer to handling my logistics.

It's actually really cool you have a FWB, that way you can relieve that sexual tension. Since you mentioned there might not be a way to stop thinking about sex, as that is just how we humans are, I may just have to do my best to keep my head high, masturbate when the tension gets too high and then just get back to working on my business immediately after. That's how I have managed these past 11 months. I was hoping to find a girlfriend during the COVID19 beginning. I initially had high hopes since girls were locked away and must have been horny as well.

Fast forward now, the lockdown is somewhat relaxed, but all my contacts seem to have gone cold on me. I have not texted any girls in the past 2+ weeks, and they have not contacted me. The very 1st week in June I stopped texting girls, I was at a peak with my anxiety as I thought I would lose these girls to other men. That may happen, it may not happen. Right now I just gotta do my best to remain focused on my end goal. 2020 has been rough for many including myself. So I am just gonna hustle that money and jump right back into dating. Hopefully by 2021 it will be my year.

This whole pickup women thing is a game with skills, a puzzle in our lives to be solved. That's why you were advised to work on yourself first. One of the puzzle is AA, if you look around you'll see that master seducers have this handled to an extent. That should be your first goal, it will take time but once you start getting it right your anxiety goes away and you become a confident Man.

Yes it's a lot of skills to learn. What I find good to do is just pick one thing at a time, and focus on getting better at that. I have not done cold approaches in quite a while. So once I get back out there (fixing logistics 1st) , I will definitey work on my approach anxiety, as you recommended.
 

Troy

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First you should learn how to channel and direct sexual energy away from the genitals.

Something else worth mentioning is you don't need tangible status to come across as a cool guy. Because while a nice car and an apartment will help your logistical game, these things are not strict requirements for anyone. . . and that includes you. . . to have an abundant and enjoyable dating life.

I understand that you want to focus on your business life, so you can just stick to the advice on sexual energy in that link.

Body oriented therapy will also help you rid yourself of anxiety. And perhaps you should know that ever since I was a teenager. . . I've been taking girls I met off day game and in nightlife to scenic but secluded parks, shagging chicks in parking lots. . . and charming women a few years older than I was into following me down the steps of private stairwells. . . so that I could escalate. Learning to bed girls in unusual and unconventional locations is a useful skill.

Getting an apartment was a big step forward in my seducer's journey. But if I hadn't already started it before then I wouldn't be the man I am today.

What's more is if you want to make money. . . do it because its what you want to do. Not because you think wealth without frame control will help you exude high status and get laid. Because frame control. . . is what you really should be working on. . . if you want to get a better sex life out of your current living situation. And remember that regardless of what is going on in the world. . . the lover always wins the dating game. It is also worth mentioning that I still don't have a car, I don't even know how to drive one yet. However I did have repeat sex inside a car. . . for the first time earlier this week.

That's very motivating advice dude! :)

Lol the last line has me cracking up "I still don't have a car, I don't even know how to drive one yet. However I did have repeat sex inside a car. . . for the first time earlier this week."

That's really cool, I want to be like that in the future and get car sex. Was that the girls car? Or someone else's? I remember the 1st time I saw a girl giving a blowjob to a guy, he was driving an old honda car late at night. I was going home from work on the company bus and we stopped at a stop light and there the guys car window was all the way down and this girl was sucking this guy so deep he could barely drive when the light turned green.

That's the kind of fun I wanna have in the future, with safety being top priority of course.

Thanks for the link, I will study it and see how best I can get my sexual energy directed away from my genitals and to my business.
 

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In the articles you posted, it said the guys who are getting laid the most either have good online game or are willing to pay sugar babies. So you should aim for either one of those.
 

Troy

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In the articles you posted, it said the guys who are getting laid the most either have good online game or are willing to pay sugar babies. So you should aim for either one of those.

True words! I am sticking to building wealth and become an attractive man outside of money (general fundamentals Girls Chase teaches). As for being a sugar daddy to sugar babies, I never really liked that. I think I would feel bad if I got wealthy and had a bunch of girls around me just for my money.

I'd want to keep a balance between creating wealth and also attracting the girls who really like me for the man I become (fundamentals).

Good online game...yeah I might look into this option as a short term solution...some time in the future
 

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One other potential advice, dude fuck needing pussy. Girls are distractions.

Men in the 1800's moved out west with no women and years of soul destroying work with no guarantee of success.

Go build your business, set your life up so you don't need to work 80 hours a week and then go build your lifestyle design.

There's nothing wrong with abstinence, in fact there have been many great man who gave up women to create their greatness.

It's not a chump move if your sacrificing to fulfill your purpose.

Just pointing out that this is an option... And a particularly good one of your not that good at pickup or don't have the luxury to spend a few hours picking up and dating.
 

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From my experience, it's worth putting yourself out there more both online and cold approaching during the day. The whole fact that at least you're making some progress either on securing dates, or pushing yourself in the dating life, will help you get out of the funk and will give you more energy to pursue your business.

Go out with great fundamentals, find girls who look approachable and just make a few approaches. Even if they don't go anywhere, you will get the confidence boost that you're getting somewhere with your dating skills. It's like hitting the gym knowing that every little pain on your muscles will get you the body you want eventually.

Stop the porn, masturbate less and try to focus your sexual energy either on your business or on meeting women offline & online. For online game, I recommend Hinge and OkCupid as they provide you with more prompts for making a genuine connection with girls. The rest of the apps are just shit or have superficial people on them.

Once you have bunch of numbers from these two arenas, call them and chat for an hour - see if you like them and chatting to the girl makes you feel good. If yes, then set the date. She won't flake because she knows you better after the call and will be more excited to see you.

Once you're on a couple of dates, you will gradually come out of the funk. This will help you to finally get some sex which can break the cycle and help you focus on the business.
 
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