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Not connecting with girls. How can I craft an interesting story about myself if my life has been boring so far?

Velasco

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Nobody cares. Don't talk about your Ex or girls you've dated.
I don’t agree with this. Getting her to talk about her exs (which they usually return the question back to me).

It’s one of the primary topics I use to get her to see that I can fulfill the unmet needs her ex failed to provide.

=> possessive/insecure/needy/boring/couldn't make me cum

*He didn’t let me go anywhere with my friends/doesn't trust me
*he always be blowing up my phone
*he doesn’t do anything except sit at home and play video games
*he lasted 1 round for 5 minutes and that was it/He didn’t talk during sex.

Show her I see that behavior (whichever one she talks about)as strange. Say why it’s strange. Which she’ll agree with. And allow her defenses to go down. Because she realizes I’m somebody who gets it. And therefore can be vulnerable with.

And then when she returns the question to me about why it didn’t work out with my ex.

I can provide a list of things I don’t want her to do.

Wanting to see me everyday (which girls that like a lot of alone time appreciate (commonality))

Being too vanilla (“your not vanilla are you?”) let her provide evidence of this via stories. I can then share some of mine to further sexually arouse her. Because it’s relevant to the topic (which I created) we’re on.

which makes her feel likes she’s passed my qualifications and earned the right to go home with me.
 

Velasco

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its hard to pull as theres not really any cool venues near my spot and I also live with my folks
Yeah getting my own place did wonders for my sex life. I lived with my parents until I was 30. And there was no privacy.

Which meant having to go to their place. Bring them to my friends place, bathroom club sex, outside sex, hotel sex etc. all super inconvenient. Cool stories tho. And obviously can still be done if you don’t have your own place. But it’s so much simpler and relieving now knowing that i can just take a 5 minute Uber from bar/restaurant to my place and bang. And not stress about where the hell am I going to bang this girl? Especially since my demographic either lives with their parents or shares a dorm room with her friends.
 
the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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you mean the 3 bounce thing? I want to do that but I live in the suburbs and so does she. sf is like an hour away. Everything is logistically inconvenient for me and every girl wants me to go close to her area, if I ask for them to come to my area they ghost or flake. I am always having to drive to the girl 20-40 min away on the dates and try to scout areas beforehand that im not familiar with its fucking aids. its hard to pull as theres not really any cool venues near my spot and I also live with my folks
are you saying, you have no beach area (beach areas have venues) or downtown areas... or malls??


 

KJ Francis

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Absolute classic


The guy who leads her on this sort of adventure will not be boring.
 

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One more thing you can do about similarities is watch few episodes of Netflix/prime shows which girls usually watch or is trendy

probably romance/drama with darker type characters

No need to watch full show

as the conversation is dying hey I was watching this show recently then use it itself to Deep dive in her psych

I have built similarity using this despite a very different lifestyle

it really is just a feeling more than anything
 

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One more thing you can do about similarities is watch few episodes of Netflix/prime shows which girls usually watch or is trendy

probably romance/drama with darker type characters

No need to watch full show

as the conversation is dying hey I was watching this show recently then use it itself to Deep dive in her psych

I have built similarity using this despite a very different lifestyle

it really is just a feeling more than anything

Can you explain exactly? Usually this is really boring to me (romance/drama crap that women watch with relationship triangles) so what exactly do you ask about the show?
 

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Can you explain exactly? Usually this is really boring to me (romance/drama crap that women watch with relationship triangles) so what exactly do you ask about the show?
Example

I watched this series called tell me lies

The main character is an asshole

me: yk I just recently finished watching “tell me lies”

I started watching tell

she: really omg xyz is crazy in it I liked the show

me: yeah … like how he could
me: what you liked about show

she: ohh how twisted he is

me: haha soo you are into twisted guys

she: nooo (laughing)

me: tell me the gossip

she: ohh except that one time

See its not hard she could have watched or not you are just using show to bridge into more juicy topics

at same time mirroring her reaction back relating to her deep diving so building similarty

Its the easiest thing everyone watches tv when free

every one has opinions on things they watch just use it
 

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ok, so my bad, not moral take on this:
talking about an ex can be a way to make someone connect with feelings more instead of less and even hook into someones vulnerability/emotions. That said, it can go all wrong too, it's hard to say & it depends a lot on your own emotional state and how well you understand what the other is meaning or experiencing with it. If you calibrate well, it helps a lot with being able to guide what turns to take and where to go to.

more naieve take:
it can be a hard topic to touch upon, because once you have already established a connection it can call up insecurities or other things at each other. yet i think being able to open up about these things feels like an important milestone in allowing each other to understand and feel and support each other.
 

KJ Francis

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I build trust with touch and go.

If I grab her hand to get her through a crowd, I let her hand go as soon as we get through the crowd. If I physically isolate the 2 of us, I make sure to get us out of that isolation asap. If say something arousing, I give her room to breathe by changing the subject.

That said,

More importantly, the attainability question is 2 parts -

1) Did I qualify her? It doesn't take long for a girl that's beneath you to feel above you.

2) Empowerment - Have I set her up as some sort of expert/master of her field...

So this is basically asking her a question, where you give her a chance to shine and impress you with something other than her looks.

So if we're at dinner, and she says she's into make up, or shopping, or celeb trivia - I ask a question about one of those topics, and give her a chance to flex, to impress me. And rather than cut her down and not be impressed, I instead get impressed at her breadth and depth of knowledge on Love Island or why Hailey Bieber's new make up line will be better than Kylie Jenner's.

Chicks are always pumping state and looking for a way to pump state.

Give her the opportunity.

All that said, this idea of "low" attainability - You're putting YOUR idea in her head, and ascribing her actions to this mental model you have. She may or may not be behaving a certain way around you because low/high attainability...or she might just have something else going on.

Don't get me wrong, it's a good mental model.

But it's a model with limitations.

It requires you to get into her head (which you can't do) and then you ascribe her actions/reactions based on this framework.

You can stick with the framework, because it helps you to explain the world, OR you can adopt a different framework to help you get the girl.



I no longer purposefully deep dive before the bang, or after the bang.

Before the bang, it would put me into best friend/great listener category, because I couldn't do it right. (I have gotten better at it)

Post bang, it would be put me out of lover/f-buddy category and into soulmate material (higher than boyfriend material, imo). In the early stages, I want a girl that wants to hook up, not have my children.

Now I just let any deep diving happen naturally, if at all.

And with the deep dive, in my experience, a few things happen.
  1. You get info and intel
  2. She gets to some sort of understanding of herself by vocalizing things that she thinks/feels
  3. but also, she might change her behavior based on how easy you can get her to talk.
    1. She might clam up
    2. She might trauma dump/trauma bond
And

For me, knowing too much about a girl, can cause ME to care too much about her.

For instance, one of my exes used to get bullied in school. Good girl game gets the guy to want to protect her, protect her from everything. Once a guy feels that a chick needs to be protected, some of his critical faculties go out the window.

As it would turn out, I could see why she was bullied - she was out of step with most groups - she couldn't really read a room.

Enough about me...



In a date situation, there's already some level of attraction (say 2 out of 10). If the date was procured offline, the attraction is greater than an online originated date. (so 2 out of 10, vs 1.5 out of 10)

If there's some level of attraction, my assumption (which I can be wrong about) is that it will naturally grow. That belief can be self-fulfilling.

And lemme be clear about my premise/my overall beliefs - If she's on a date, she's somewhat attracted/okay with the guy's visuals. (his fundamentals). She's not gonna be seen in public with a guy that she doesn't want to be seen in public with.

The attraction that I care about, is how much does she want to interact.

How many times does she poke my buttons to get some emotional stimulation. Cause to an extent the date is about her getting good feelings and good vibes. And I need those feelings on her part to lead to the sex.

To me, visually she is sexy. But I've found that girls want to FEEL sexy, in order to have sex. But me saying she's sexy/beautiful/"cleans up nice" isn't really *the* thing that makes HER feel sexy. That makes me feel like a big man for stating the obvious. Indeed, withholding compliments, or intermittently dropping stuff like that can actually affect the girl more than saying stuff blatantly. (but my preferred subtlety is just one path, bold and brash and take her by storm is another path - both equally valid and effective)

And attraction will grow, trust will grow with more time and more back and forth.
I can think in terms of micro-escalation and flirting, as the next moves to make in the timeline, but I'm inclined to
do
  • A lot more Holding eye contact
  • Pausing my speech, pregnant pauses
  • Changing my facial expression
  • Changing my body position
  • Make her realizing that I'm thinking about what she said (which makes her uncomfortable, sometimes - but it's sort of a power grab/frame grab - why should she truly care about what I think about what she said/her beliefs)
Getting her to feel is the "game", and I would characterize these "moves" as micro-flirtations and escalations.

You might see them as "nano" flirtations...but for me at least the sex is a foregone conclusion.

All of these things basically start to tip the scales.

In a sense, the date is THE SEX. It's foreplay. In Public, with clothes on.

In terms of flirtation
  1. Start the interaction man to woman.
    1. A hand over hand/two hand - handshake
    2. twirl around, lemme see you
    3. hug or
  2. But the actual verbal, non-verbal, tactile/kinesthetic/logistic esclations are subtle to less subtle over time.
....

Overall, the moves you make with a particular girls are really just extensions of how YOU think the world works, how you think GIRLS respond.

In my view, a player needs a coherent view of the world.

I think girls LOVE sex. Even the shy ones. Even the virgins. Especially the Feminists.

I think girls like both a slow build up, but also all guns blazing.

I think that girls don't usually want to be the initiators.

A lot of girls think of sex that is something done to them - they're victims, but willing victims.

I think that girls will like sex more, if they think it's something that they do.

None of this really matters to the girl, but what having a "view of the world" is make my actions consistent for me.

And me being consistent is important FOR ME.

Cause these chicks will bang anything.
This is an awesome post. I am really looking forward to your interview with Chase.

And I think it would help me a lot to slip more into the mindset that girls are WAY dirtier than men, but also much more affected by social dangers. I do like a lot of connection-building, but as a trust tactic to get her to stick to me. My ideal is really to pull girls from the mall to the parking garage. I think I will eventually become pretty focused on discretion, implication, and especially plausible deniability, so even if no one is in ear shot, she can still put the blame on me and just come along knowing full well what is up.
 
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