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Post Mortem of a Cautionary Tale

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Space Monkey
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Ho boy.

Yes, it's me again, after a month of some bad choices and lessons learnt. If you are curious about what happened before, search on my profile, they are the only posts I have (I am still gonna give a brief background description). I am writing this mainly for myself, cause I really need it. But of course you can shit on me for the choices made cause this was one hell of a ride (and the next few months are gonna be a tough lesson in acceptance)

A bit of background: I have a cute (virgin) flat mate I went on a date with. I had established myself as a player (which I am not, she was my first lay) but only got her to suck my dick before. In the last post I wrote that I was gonna end things with her, which I didn't because of my scarcity. So I went about the whole thing thinking with my dick and now I am here.

The predominant issue I was facing was behaviour born out of scarcity and insecurity as well as disingenious behaviour from my part. I felt relief when "ending" things with her, yet I still continued cause she was hot and available. She was the first girl I really "approached"/asked out in my life and she was hooked, which obviously I didn't want to let go.

I went into it telling her that I am not searching for a relationship yet I displayed heavy boyfriend behaviour. In the beginning it was to build comfort to be able to take her virginity. But it felt really nice once we slept in one bed a few times and felt a connection with her, so I ramped it up and began to call her things like princess, heavy talking about her being mine in dirty talk and outside of it. I took her virginity 2.5 weeks ago, after which I encouraged her fantasies of visiting her hometown, talk about a future together and plans for it. It was only ever theoretical but I know what I did.

[Interlude]
My insecurities with sex are a whole different can of worms, so I am just gonna put this section in here. When I took her virginity I tied up her hands and entered her from behind as I just couldn't enter from the front. I came after a minute or so because I was so excited.
One time after that I came multiple times, really fast as well. Showed her a vibrator and she loooooved it. I liked that she enjoyed herself but I also had massive insecurities because she laid in my arms while cumming on this vibrator without my involvement at all, me not being able to stimulate her and cumming early really often made me feel like a massive cuck. Here she was being excited about fitting a vibrator inside and telling me how amazing it felt while I was spent. She sensed it after a while and stopped.

I searched up on how to delay my orgasms and not getting excited, instead really being in the moment was a massive breakthrough the next (and last time) we had sex. I was able to last really long, but it was only a blowjob because she had a tear in her pussy from her first time which I said we should let heal. This brings me back to the FR.
[Interlude over]

The whole time I was doing this heavy boyfriend behaviour I was also flip-flopping like crazy, basically telling her every 2nd day that it's over, or that I am gonna keep things more casual from now on. She was always receptive and understanding but also more hurt everytime I did it.
The reason I was changing my mind every day was the disparity of me being insecure about her going out partying so much, but also being so heavily invested in her without official bf status and the behaviour which I expect from a gf (which she wanted but I didn't want to do the date-y stuff she proposed).

On one occasion she asked whether I wanted to really date, to which I replied that I liked to spend time together instead of impressing her friends. And that I'd let her go if she wanted to pursue smth. more serious. I'd be sad, but I'd let her go. What I really didn't have an eye for because of my huge insecurities was that she was hopelessly in love with me. Her investment was really heavy and I could basically do whatever I wanted and she still tolerated it. So the last few days that was what I realized, making me more secure in the relationship and allowing myself to be more genuine with her, stop flip-flopping.

But before that I would always point out how she was obsessed with me, not showing how much I cared for her myself out of fear that she still might cheat on me while partying. She always told me how she missed me, even after only being a night apart. We spent waaaaaay too much time together, sometimes whole days going by in the blink of an eye, but basically at least 3-4 hours a day, her cancelling on her friends for me way to often. This was while I was always making fun of her for being obsessed, often insinuating that she loved me. At one point she told me to stop playing with her in a miffed way. She threw me quite a lot of comfort tests I kinda nuked.

Unfortunately it all came back to bite me in the ass a few days ago, when I told her to come to my room after her class. She played coy a bit which left me without a lot of time with her. Originally planned to eat her out (to let her pussy heal for real sex) but I we just made out, with me telling her multiple times that sex isn't going to happen. She was miffed, as I knew she would be. I also didn't like doing it to her, so I told her I had to do stuff but would be coming back in an hour to finish what I started. She complained that I should have said "Sorry that we can't do it, I really want to do it with you" instead of my "Sorry that we can't do it, I really don't like doing this to you". I handwaved it away but I knew how pissed she would be.

On the way back an hour later I felt no attraction for her. When I got there she really wasn't in the mood either, resisting attempts to undress her, huge bitchfest. It was as if I had showed both our bodies how I wasn't really a man for taking her then and there. Later I had her in my room, her on the phone, dry as desert, me cumming while she is distracted on her phone. This mental block still persists, I don't feel energetic like before, like an asexual. So the last two days she wasn't into me sexually at all and I kinda also lost attraction for her. Didn't kiss me back, wanting to be alone (=without me). I still did all the comfort stuff but I hadn't realized that she was completely in auto-rejection.

Today it was like kissing a wall again, bone dry. I knew everything was going wrong, she was bitchy, I hadn't realized she had auto-rejected, Told me our time together is boring, no flirting at all from her side, but still open to hand-holding and cuddling. As I laid on her bed, confused, she prepared for going out to the club. Lace panties, push-up bra. It dawned on me, she told me she wanted me to leave. Hurt, no idea what to do, came back a few minutes later with the realization, got my stuff out of her room and told her it was fun while it lasted.


I am not going to pretend I am not a bit sad but also relieved. But my way bigger concern is how much she is going to fuck with my head in the months she has left here. The thought of her fucking other guys is making me puke, let alone the idea of her bringing them into our flat.
In the end I was still her first and she was mine as well. I learned quite a bit but I wish it could have been without the drama that is going to ensue. But I am preaching to the choir, you guys were the ones that warned me about it.

Cheers.
 

Rakehell

Cro-Magnon Man
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Defining moment where you figure out if all of this is really for you. Every single guy with merit on this forum has a degree of coldness whether learned or ingrained, that allows them to avoid/let go of premature attachments.

Avoiding commitment isn’t a part of the “game”, they actually don’t want it alot of the time.

It’s easy to say you wan’t to avoid commitment, but when emotionally you actually want commitment, and your behavior starts betraying your words, you’ll suffer for it in more ways than one.

You avoided just hopping in a relationship with her which is good, but how you deal with everything that comes after that should be pivotal to whether or not you actually want to continue doing any of this.

In a way you’d be desensitizing yourself to attachment or finding ways to avoid it.

Normal people just take the relationship.

Usually having access to more than one girl brings you out of scarcity and dulls attachment but not always, depends on you and what you actually want emotionally.
 
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the right date makes getting her back home a piece of cake

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Space Monkey
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In the beginning I actually didn't want commitment, just a fuckbuddy. But then I realized how bad it would fuck me up if she began bringing other men into our home. So I transitioned into more of this role, also to see what it is like to be more serious. Find out what it's like, what I will and won't put up with, how to handle things that come up. It kind of worked, I know more things than I would if I hadn't done it, but the results are also tainted because I haven't built myself up to the level I want to yet (in terms of abundance and general attractiveness). But it showed me that there is still work to do, hadn't I lived with the chick that is testing me it wouldn't have been way easier to just ignore this stuff. I am pretty good with the "be attractive" stuff of the attraction coin but there is a lot of work on the "don't be unattractive" side I am now aware of.

I am happy I tried instead of letting this oppurtunity go to waste and this is the most important aspect of this for me. Instead of being stuck in a self-made prison I am going for things I want and try it out. Yeah, I could have handled stuff better. But I also saw massive success with the philosophies on this site, got my first lay ever with a really cute chick that fell in love with me, learned what a slippery slope commitment is, some insecurities I can now figure out etc. Living my life instead of just letting it pass by.
 

Atlas IV

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It sounds like you're really beating yourself up about this. I'm guessing you're young and early in your seduction journey. The fact that you're aware of the mistakes you made and reflecting on them is in itself something that separates you from 99% of guys, so go easy on yourself :) All of us here have memories that we cringe to think about, but they are also the most formative experiences. It's a long-term game of racking up reference points.

Regarding your insecurities about sex, I went through the same thing in my first relationships. Struggled with premature ejaculation, ED, etc. This just comes with experience. I know you're probably in a phase where you just want to bang lots of hotties (and you absolutely should), but you learn a lot of things in a relationship, particularly how women think and feel, and from this comes confidence which resolves the insecurities about sex. So if you find a girl who you wouldn't mind sticking with for a few months or a year, I'd recommend it to balance out your understanding of women in other dimensions and also to better understand yourself. Women will notice this too, and you'll naturally give off less player vibes.
 

gameboy

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Glad you're taking it as a learning experience! In my opininon this was bound to happen. I think everyone who has the opportunity and has a hot female flat mate will make this mistake at least once in their lifetime, haha.
 

orkie123

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These kind of emotional rollercoasters are unavoidable for most people when they first start getting sex.

Biggest thing here is your ego. You dont want a relationship with her because you know you need to improve your experience so that you can find someone that is more compatible and so that you yourself feel more confident with your seduction skills.

However, when you realised that she might bring back other guys who may be better than you, your ego gets in the way and becomes a bit possessive to protect itself.

That and also the confusion you created yourself by not leading the relationship to something casual so that you can still have fun sex without the drama for a while.

Its a learning experience and you'll get better at dealing with the emotions, especially as you improve and get more abundance. These emotions will never completely dissapear though, unless you are high on the dark triad personality traits, which it doesnt seem you are.
 

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Man, if she likes you, there's like 0 chance she's gonna bring over a guy unless as revenge if she sees you with a girl first

But it's okay, you probably did catch some feelings and that's totally fine. Life would be dull without them.
 

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Space Monkey
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Man, if she likes you, there's like 0 chance she's gonna bring over a guy unless as revenge if she sees you with a girl first

But it's okay, you probably did catch some feelings and that's totally fine. Life would be dull without them.
I realized that as well, but way too late. At the end here I got really lost in the sauce. Only thing on my mind was her, just general unattractive behaviour, clingy. Now I am nearly at my normal again, positive, dominant. It was just so tempting to continue with the beta behaviour displayed at the end and chase, allowing myself to have this boundary instead of going back on it is a thing I really have to work on. But being able to just easily next a girl I have to earn through building my options first. Until then it is gonna suck for a while.
 

Rakehell

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In the beginning I actually didn't want commitment, just a fuckbuddy. But then I realized how bad it would fuck me up if she began bringing other men into our home. So I transitioned into more of this role, also to see what it is like to be more serious. Find out what it's like, what I will and won't put up with, how to handle things that come up. It kind of worked, I know more things than I would if I hadn't done it, but the results are also tainted because I haven't built myself up to the level I want to yet (in terms of abundance and general attractiveness). But it showed me that there is still work to do, hadn't I lived with the chick that is testing me it wouldn't have been way easier to just ignore this stuff. I am pretty good with the "be attractive" stuff of the attraction coin but there is a lot of work on the "don't be unattractive" side I am now aware of.

I am happy I tried instead of letting this oppurtunity go to waste and this is the most important aspect of this for me. Instead of being stuck in a self-made prison I am going for things I want and try it out. Yeah, I could have handled stuff better. But I also saw massive success with the philosophies on this site, got my first lay ever with a really cute chick that fell in love with me, learned what a slippery slope commitment is, some insecurities I can now figure out etc. Living my life instead of just letting it pass by.
Yeah you’ll be fine then, I did some experimenting like this starting out.

Her going out with other dudes isn’t the end of the world, eventually you may even see it as a good thing.

The alternative would be her wasting tons of time trying to win you over/ stifling her ability to be happy and enjoy life so long as she’s stuck on you.

In your scenario this might even be unavoidable for her since you miscommunicated your intentions alot, so can’t really blame her for going cold. Just protecting her emotional welfare.
 
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