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So you are saying pob have never experienced what you experience... You are the only one in this forum that slept with beautiful girls... Didn't chase called you out on this none sense... Bach junior..
Seducing less attractive / lower quality girls for practice?
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And where did I say I’m the only one in this forum that slept with beautiful girls? I’m simply sharing my own experience.
This is my girlfriends body for instance
All I’m saying is that it all that stuff matters less than it used to. A beautiful girl (face, skin, hair, low bf%) I care less about if she doesn’t have a huge butt.
Even tho I prefer big butts over girls that don’t have a butt. I certainly won’t pass up a beautiful girl over an average looking girl with a bigger butt.
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There are two problems with this.
The first one is that guys use the scale to describe overall value. For me, at least 50% of my enjoyment is a function of how fun she is in bed, according to what I want to experience at that time. Any value scale that doesn't take that into account is worthless to me. Sex is a whole symphony orchestra of pleasurable things that together create satisfaction - her smell, her sounds, her willingness, the way she moves and responds to different things, etc. I don't even know how to conceptualize the idea of sexual enjoyment based on nothing but appearance.
The second problem is that even if we're only talking about that 50% related to appearance, there are so many different things each guy will have different tastes on. Just in terms of her face there are a billion combinations of proportions that each guy might find attractive or not.
Something I find fascinating is Chase's article on people choosing mates with similar features. It's one of the most universally consistent things I've ever seen, my brother is a textbook example. So that means guys are going around getting attracted to women based on completely different sets of features, probably all believing that their 10 is everybody's 10.
About the only thing I've ever seen evolutionary psychologists agree on regarding universal indicators of female attractiveness is the hourglass figure, which is about as vague a scientific concept as you'll ever find.
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The 1-10 scale is based solely off looks. I’m sorry but a 5 doesn’t become a 10 because she’s incredible in bed. She’s still a 5 at the end of the day.
Confirmation bias. If I was allowed to post pictures of my girls then you would see that pretty much none of them look like me facial feature wise
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Nah I got that shit handled. Thanks tho. I’m more interested in reading your cold approach lay reports. I’m sure I can learn a thing or 2 from a tribe elder
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If a rookie is repulsed by a girl, and wouldn't want to be seen with her - he will cop an attitude gives him license to say whatever he wants, and do whatever he wants with respect to that girl, and he doesn't care what happens.
He's actually outcome independent and focused on process.
If he gets the notch, cool. If he doesn't get the notch, whatever, she was ugly.
But that same guy can't affect that nonchalant/"say anything" attitude towards girls he finds genuinely attractive.
He only lets himself be "real" with plain Janes - he never gives himself permission to be "real" with the fine ones. His game is stifled.
It's a bad practice, in my experience.
It's very similar to guys that are "alpha" with girls and "beta" with everyone else.
He's actually outcome independent and focused on process.
If he gets the notch, cool. If he doesn't get the notch, whatever, she was ugly.
But that same guy can't affect that nonchalant/"say anything" attitude towards girls he finds genuinely attractive.
He only lets himself be "real" with plain Janes - he never gives himself permission to be "real" with the fine ones. His game is stifled.
It's a bad practice, in my experience.
It's very similar to guys that are "alpha" with girls and "beta" with everyone else.
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This is the truth
Complete nonfactor, everyone who's good at game has slept with good looking girls and okay looking girls at some point. Sometimes also with ugly ones when he felt like it.
Have you ever regretted hooking up with a girl because she was not good looking enough? That's what I thought
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Tbh, you kinda regret the opposite: sleeping with the gorgeous ones that have shitty personalities.
Those are the troublemakers who make your think with your dick and fuck up your life.
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I was going to say this is so true. You don't regret the ugly ones you slept with, but the nasty ones even if they're hot...
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Wow, great advice and insights on here. I honestly thought I was going to get attacked and receive posts where everyone says “never lower your standards!” It seems this forum is leagues above other forums.
I have regretted having sex with girls who were below my standards, I think there seem to be 2 types of guys.
1. Guys who are willing to “lower their standards” or bang a less than ideal girl and enjoy it.
2. Guys who won’t go after a girl who isn’t very much their type. (not necessarily more attractive, but more their personal preference, so the guy considers them hot), and they won’t bang a girl outside of that, at least while sober.
After reading all the replies, I realize the girls I regretted banging are ones who didn’t have redeeming qualities or maybe didn’t even make me hard (cialis solves this).
But I wouldn’t regret banging a girl who’s less attractive than I would like, if they have redeeming features like a bubbly cheerful personality (I love this, but it is rare), or a cute face, or athletic bod, nice ass, or that intangible “something” that makes you turned on just by the thought of hooking up with them, even though you can’t pinpoint a specific quality that turns you on.
Have not been traumatized by crazy girls who are hot…. yet. Fingers crossed.
Great stuff.
I have regretted having sex with girls who were below my standards, I think there seem to be 2 types of guys.
1. Guys who are willing to “lower their standards” or bang a less than ideal girl and enjoy it.
2. Guys who won’t go after a girl who isn’t very much their type. (not necessarily more attractive, but more their personal preference, so the guy considers them hot), and they won’t bang a girl outside of that, at least while sober.
After reading all the replies, I realize the girls I regretted banging are ones who didn’t have redeeming qualities or maybe didn’t even make me hard (cialis solves this).
But I wouldn’t regret banging a girl who’s less attractive than I would like, if they have redeeming features like a bubbly cheerful personality (I love this, but it is rare), or a cute face, or athletic bod, nice ass, or that intangible “something” that makes you turned on just by the thought of hooking up with them, even though you can’t pinpoint a specific quality that turns you on.
Have not been traumatized by crazy girls who are hot…. yet. Fingers crossed.
Great stuff.
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This strategy has been a boon to me at times.
I think there is a big difference in your vibe when you are in high momentum. Your neediness evaporates, and you project sexual energy.
I once did one sided monogamy with a former cam girl who said she loved me. I had struggled to lay her in a period of low momentum. I pretty much slipped into the friend zone. Like we went for pedicures once, then I went radio silent. When we reconnected, I am pretty sure I slept with four different girls that same week.
None to write home about, but she said I smelled like pussy. Maybe literally, but probably figuratively.
So especially if you are shaking rust off, continually failing on dates, or pulling her and then cumming quick because you haven't had sex in a week or two, as long as your sexual abundance with average girls doesn't drag you into laziness, I think it can be a real help.
With the girl above, I don't think I even came until the fifth time I fucked her. We would have these marathon sex sessions. I wasn't purposefully doing semen retention - actually quite the opposite (with other girls). And that gave me a killer vibe. Probably like a testosterone feedback loop without the prolactin or whatever it is.
I think there is a big difference in your vibe when you are in high momentum. Your neediness evaporates, and you project sexual energy.
I once did one sided monogamy with a former cam girl who said she loved me. I had struggled to lay her in a period of low momentum. I pretty much slipped into the friend zone. Like we went for pedicures once, then I went radio silent. When we reconnected, I am pretty sure I slept with four different girls that same week.
None to write home about, but she said I smelled like pussy. Maybe literally, but probably figuratively.
So especially if you are shaking rust off, continually failing on dates, or pulling her and then cumming quick because you haven't had sex in a week or two, as long as your sexual abundance with average girls doesn't drag you into laziness, I think it can be a real help.
With the girl above, I don't think I even came until the fifth time I fucked her. We would have these marathon sex sessions. I wasn't purposefully doing semen retention - actually quite the opposite (with other girls). And that gave me a killer vibe. Probably like a testosterone feedback loop without the prolactin or whatever it is.