Hi everyone! Sorry for "thread crashing" but there are so many masters here and I couldn't resist it. I have only just signed up to the forum 2 days ago.
What
@POB and
@Teevster said is so true it is not even funny. For a young guy like me (21M), I feel so sad and confused sometimes. I have not seen anyone in my age group that even actively tries to learn proper seduction and once in a blue moon when I see a guy trying to pick up a girl at a party, it is so painful to watch. (Disclaimer here: I'm not dissing the guy trying to do the pick up because I know I'm no better myself but I'm just putting it here as a factual statement)
Everyone around my age seems to only be talking about games and complaining about life nowadays. They all say they are so tired and bored and too many assignments, etc. There is not even any mention about getting excited and having fun with girls. (Another disclaimer: I did do Engineering at university so my view is going to be more skewed than others, but the general idea still stands)
I have just recently moved to the biggest city in New Zealand. Last weekend, I went out to a bar in the city centre and all the guys that were there were at least 25+, who all has decent money and go to the gym and buy nice clothes. All the women were in groups of 3+ people and they were all very high energy and sat in a closed formation. So, I just sat at the bar, thinking: "Well, shit". I still ended up spending a few hours there, enjoying my cocktail and met a nice 29 years old lady towards the end, so it was not too bad. Regarding the lady, we didn't get anywhere but talk. I don't know if the age gap was a problem for her, or my fundamentals were too low, or I didn't execute techniques correctly. My skill level is too low to be able to pinpoint what I did wrong. I do know that my conversations were all over the place. I tried to apply some of the techniques in Chase's book (How to Make Girls Chase) to bring in implicit value and not answer questions directly, but the 4 years of engineering just made my brain spat out information. I also did tried to initiate some touching (asked about her nail polish and held her hand), but she retracted it after 3 seconds. Finally, I did a last ditch attempt and offered to walk her home, which she politely declined. Honestly, my whole attempt was clunky af (laugh cry).
Anyway, too much ranting haha. Would some of you masters (
@uriel @Train @Vision @Skills @Teevster @Warped Mindless @Bismarck and more) be so kind to guide me to on my journey become a skilled seducer? How do I get better? Should I read more? Should I watch videos? Should I keep developing things in Chase's book? How do I do all of 'this' as a young guy who just started a job and doesn't have that much bucks in the bank? I don't have a problem with doing things solo, but sometimes I just don't know where to go and the unsupportive environment around me doesn't help. In addition, do you know if any member on this forum is in New Zealand, by chance?