Should I read "The Game" or "Models"

[Skills]

I don’t like the first part of models. He says neediness is the problem, which I agree with, but says the solution is vulnerability. That doesn’t make sense to me and is even contradicted when he recounts his ex gfs orbiter who he said was vulnerable about his feelings for her multiple times and he uses her rejection of him as a example of neediness.

i just love how you butcher the context... re read the book (i posted a youtube resume but it was shit)..

 

[Brassfaced_Jim]

The Game is a great book if you read between the lines, there is a lot of useful practical stuff in there, but you have to pull on the strings and go deeper down the rabbit holes he mentions.

Models is okay, mostly I appreciated that book because he admits that pickup is a numbers game even when you get really good you'll still have to play the numbers... you'll have better success ratios but take more action = get more results.

Read them both.

I’m going back to reread TG and brush up on MM again atm

So just curious ~
What strings /rabbit holes did you go further into from what Strauss mentioned in the book.

I did go deep (too much so) into everything he mentioned, first go round, but in hindsight not sure I needed to. That’s why I am curious what areas of exploration were specifically beneficial for you . Cheers Jim

 

[Karea Ricardus D.]

That's a good question... I think all the hypnosis and NLP stuff isn't necessary... although I would say it can be useful, I wouldn't make it a high priority until a lot of other stuff is in place already.

I think the word-for-word pickups that are in the book verbatim (Paris Hilton, Britney Spears, the Platinum Blondes, etc.) are worth taking a closer look at and really analyzing.

For every sentence, ask yourself: why does he say this? There is so much tech packed into these little examples. Transitions, observations, cold reads, frames, compliance building, and the obvious microcalibration stuff...

That's off the top of my head... I remember reading it again almost 20 years later and going like wow... this is so much deeper than it looks to the uninitiated at first glance... every sentence is very deliberate.