Social norms and daygame: Fine line between weird and well "daygame".

[Glow]

OP - Good observation w the thin line - pay attention to it - theres a level of refinement thats key in doing so imo.

One thing im thinking that significantly supports this thinking youre outlining is to select and find places that are more optimal - we discussed various at nextasf:

• Cafes - sets and girls will be sitting stable for quite some time, theyll hit the cashier area in some, others they stay. theyre sorta high pressure as theres a lot of attention to you and her often.
• Streets - full activity most places, full stops mostly needed
• Monuments, views, events and the likes - theyre attentive to the monument, option to side chat up
• Bus and metro stops - temporary standing waiting, often bored, side chat up
• Packed areas - active and full stop needed, but its often less pressured on her as its inside a crowd
• Stores in Malls and alikes
• Central coffee places inmalls w a fast paced traffic

The nature of a coffeeshop is that it is often sorta high pressure in the air around you as people look, whereas busstops are less pressured but still make for a semi stable position for the girl. this enables you to side chat her up and be more slow in your entry, sliding in etc. Stores allows for mingling with others towards your girl etc.

i disagree w the mass approach thing. Know where your development need lies, address appropriate challenges progressively towards that by selecting them one by one with appropriate focus and gradually train and change your insecurities and problem feelings that pop up.

Also many techs that i sense you prob dont know exists - look into them

• Hovers - by @Gunwitch
• Paimais - the art of creating ais proactively
• Materialisations - i think @Bacchus coined this
• sliding in
• mingling by ijjji
• Vibing
• Using sexual tension by @Cody Lyans and originally Sixty to my knowledge
• Forcing iois - gambler
• Already be smiling when she looks at you, juggler
• Stumble upons
• Swerve bys
• sensing and attuning to her preemtively before you go in
• half opens, feints and the likes
• looking behind her actively to make her look, or slightly to her side, or at her line of vision

Just to mention a few that are another league than the full front stop type and thereby enables other types of openings..

hope that helps a lil...

The fine line is fun btw, look for it, attune towards it and youll do good

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Yeah I think I do best with coffee shops and such or places where you can naturally game. The hard one for me that I want to master but cannot because it always seems awkward is when a hot girl walks across you, by you, or across the street from you on the street.

 

[Lobo]

Hey @Glow , the concept of the pai mai really intrigues me as it seems to give you more control over your interactions in your journal while also minimizing effort. However, I can't seem to find any exact techniques out there(or maybe I'm just blind lol). I was wondering if you could guide me to the right articles.

Thanks,
Lobo

 

[YS.]

Hey @Glow , the concept of the pai mai really intrigues me as it seems to give you more control over your interactions in your journal while also minimizing effort. However, I can't seem to find any exact techniques out there(or maybe I'm just blind lol). I was wondering if you could guide me to the right articles.

Thanks,
Lobo

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[Lobo]

Hey YS.,
Thank you! Very much appreciated

 

[D. Gately]

Other than cafes and bookstores I prefer to daygame outside, so whether I'm direct or indirect the girl always knows she can easily walk away. One method I try to use in NYC is simply a mood-changer: one spring I saw this hot, very tall girl with severe cheekbones sitting on a bench in Central Park looking sad in the afternoon. I sat down on the other end of the bench and waited a couple of minutes. I then announced, 'It's a perfect day for ice-cream, don't you think?' And looked directly at her -- she turned and looked at me [wearing a stylish suit] and smiled and her face just lit up.
We chatted briefly and ended up getting some ice cream together and becoming good friends, and later FWBs when she dumped her boyfriend. Turned out she was an fashion model that had been rejected for a booking when I approached her. None of this is to say I invented some new technique or am super-skilled, but that simply talking about ice cream with a hot girl on a warm day can lead to an idate. If you put yourself out there in a socially acceptable way there's nothing to worry about, worst case was she said no, or said nothing while checking IG, or walked off.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

At times though, I do get approach anxiety from thinking that this shit is fucking weird. I don't mean it is necessarily wrong but just more abnormal and really out of the box.

Do you know what else is weird and abnormal?

Regularly getting laid at 18+ *without* apps.

On a similar journey to you & focusing more on day game. Approach Anxiety is normal man it’s the barrier of entry you pay for the best girls IMO.

All you can do is suck it up and pay your dues or choose a different medium to meet woman.

I stick to day game because although the “rejection” is more “real” vs a swipe you ultimately don’t have to talk to as many girls to sleep with someone new and pull them into a rotation.

The key is calibration & consistency. If a girl is visibly not interested let it go & you’ll be fine. If you need to ask how to tell then you have deeper issues then getting laid. You’re clearly not in that category.

To answer approaching girls in the same area I’ve experimented taking different routes to my gym, dates and friend meet ups. Allows me to see different faces (when I’m already in a good mood) and has worked well for me.

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Alright so my issue is this with daygame, it just seems abnormal to move things along. Maybe I am doing it wrong or something but just talking to a girl out of the blue at a stoplight or when you are walking the same direction seems so fucking weird to me, like off as it gets perhaps. Maybe what can help is you guys continue to share videos or ways of guys doing it in those situations in a calibrated way. Could be an NYC thing but everyone here in a rush during the day and my best luck has been if she is walking near next to me or something.

I have a tough time seeing how to go way out of my way to talk to a girl.

 

[YS.]

Either

1) Do game that you're proud of...
2) Be proud of the game that you're doing...

You're trusting your brain, thoughts and emotions way too much man. They are not on your side until you're used to this shit.

Game conflicts w your identity. Either change your identity to carve a place for game or change your game to fit-in with your identity.

Maybe a little bit of both.

 

[DoWhatWorks]

Alright so my issue is this with daygame, it just seems abnormal to move things along. Maybe I am doing it wrong or something but just talking to a girl out of the blue at a stoplight or when you are walking the same direction seems so fucking weird to me, like off as it gets perhaps. Maybe what can help is you guys continue to share videos or ways of guys doing it in those situations in a calibrated way. Could be an NYC thing but everyone here in a rush during the day and my best luck has been if she is walking near next to me or something.

I have a tough time seeing how to go way out of my way to talk to a girl.

I live in London man and still make it happen. Start off with easier approaches e.g. girls sitting in bus stops and those waiting in line at the metro. My go to line is “are you going anywhere exciting” or just a straight compliment.

Channel called “Fluid Social” based in London that I like and as much as he gets slack “Justin Wayne” based in NYC is decent.

With walking girls it’s as simple as excuse me, appreciate this is random but XYZ If she’s into you she’ll stop if she’s not she’ll keep walking.

You don’t need to go out of your way. If you’re walking past a girl casually turn back & make a compliment or say hi then see if she bites.

For me daygame is me throwing a shit ton of compliments and conversations starters out there while I’m going about my business & seeing who grabs the bait.

Think of your hi as a swipe and a smile & “how are you” response as a match.

Did you get annoyed by lack of matches while online or just hit it up more girls while improving your images?

This is the real world equivalent.

 

[D. Gately]

Alright so my issue is this with daygame, it just seems abnormal to move things along. Maybe I am doing it wrong or something but just talking to a girl out of the blue at a stoplight or when you are walking the same direction seems so fucking weird to me, like off as it gets perhaps. Maybe what can help is you guys continue to share videos or ways of guys doing it in those situations in a calibrated way. Could be an NYC thing but everyone here in a rush during the day and my best luck has been if she is walking near next to me or something.

I have a tough time seeing how to go way out of my way to talk to a girl.

It's not that hard in NYC. There must be some girls that look at you. Are you looking for hair flips, shoe dangles, on top of the obvious smiles?

 

[Indian Race Troll (IRT)]

Great point but I guess it becomes me being more focused on specific girls than picking up on girls focused on me. Like when I do it I am more out for girls that catch my eye than those that are into me.

Few struggles for mentally are:

1. Like actually talking to a girl going about her day and convincing her to give a number and date and all that. It used to be easier in a college town setting when I did it but things move too fast in NYC.

2. Being direct enough, I am indirect and don't go direct enough. It seems weird.

I guess when I boil it down, it is on a social level caring a decent amount of how I am perceived in public, especially given that I go to the same places a good deal and the city feels small enough when you do that.

 

[D. Gately]

Well, when bars re-open if you see a girl you like walk up to the bar next to her and order a drink and see if you're getting IOIs, or just open conversation - about anything. 'This is my first time at this bar....Are the drinks here good....I like your heels....' it really doesn't matter once you open and gauge her interest.